need to move a lathe

[shipto]

I was thinking of sending them some pics even if the painted plate sheds light on its true designation seeing as they dont seem to have anything like it on there. However I will wait until I have it in my shop and clean it up a little at least.

[mattinker]

If your going to contact Tony, do it now, he can take a very long time to reply!

It looks like a great lathe! Regards, Matthew

[appletree]

When I moved my willson lathe I used a baby hiab type crane, it lifts 800kg but the lathe was too heavy, I removed headstock motor and tailstock. The crane only just managed to lift the bed and remaining bits, all up I think it weighs about 1100 to 12000 kg.
I fully stripped cleaned painted and reassembled the lathe, much heavier lump, to move it iraised it up 5 or 6 inches the good old fashioned way with levers and put a pallet truck underneath it.
Fortunately  the tips reached far enough to be at the centre off gravity, I tied the lathe to the truck with ratchet straps and moved the lathe that way though it still needed a bit of grunt

[shipto]

no worries there I was talking to the guy who is going to move it and the truck he is bringing has a hiab (is that even the correct spelling?) thats got a 10 metre range and he says it can lift 6 tonne at that length. I am hoping he can put it right inside the door of my raised workshop without me even having to move the campervan from the drive.

[AdeV]

no worries there I was talking to the guy who is going to move it and the truck he is bringing has a hiab (is that even the correct spelling?) thats got a 10 metre range and he says it can lift 6 tonne at that length. I am hoping he can put it right inside the door of my raised workshop without me even having to move the campervan from the drive.

Hiab is the correct spelling - it's a manufacturer, a bit like Hoover made the, er, hoover.

6 tonnes  at 10 metres! That's going to be one hell of a crane...

[Jonny]

Wont be a problem with a Hiab I did a similar thing 15 years ago and was a bit shocked.
Pulls on drive car in front and lifts a 140 from bed over and in front of car. Then picks car up in front and puts in the bed with 4ft high sides approx. 8 ft from ground.

Just make sure he don't put (and I know what theyre like) strap round the spindle or face plate in your case.
On the older ones theres usually 26mm+ holes in the base at front and tail stock end to insert bar through and pick up. Newer M series use an eye bolt threaded in and positioned at balance point with tail stock on to buy about £3.

Nearest I can come up with is first picky of hydraulic copy lathe and would say 50's. Hand wheel on the right, basic Norton gearbox and a variation of top head cover. http://www.lathes.co.uk/harrison/page10.html
Think there was a point where Harrison swapped hand wheel sides the main difference between Colchester and Harrison even though Harrison a lot dearer.

[shipto]

Well I am totally shattered but its out and waiting for the man with the hiab 
took pic at halfway point.

[vtsteam]

Headstock and apron do look sturdy! I imagine you're all out, alright!

[hermetic]

Well done Shipto, it is never easy, I like the way your captive rollers work, a lot of that exhaustion you feel is due to the stress! It looks even more top heavy in the middle of the path than it did in the workshop, glad to hear you got it to the road without mishap. I also note that like me, you take off all the sticky out bits!
Phil

[AdeV]

Nicely done sir, they are a pig to move about, hopefully it's not getting too damp in our summery weather...

IMHO, that looks a bit bigger than an L5, and the bed casting doesn't look like a Harrison at all... it will be very interesting to see what you've actually got there.

[shipto]

The bed is definatly Harrison its hidden by the bottom bar (not sure of its proper name, transfer bar maybe?) but the Harrison name is cast into it. I joined the harrison Group and showed pic there and the prelimary conclusion is that its indeed a Harrison 14 but a really early version.
The numbers certainly match a Harrison 14 it has a little over 14" swing over bed and 24" within the gap even the space between centres seem like they will match that quote on the lathes.co.uk site.

[shipto]

well a little brasso showed me it is indeed a Harrison 14.

[shipto]

scrubs up ok dont she 

[vtsteam]

Lookin good!
Especially the location ....

[hanermo]

Looks really nice !

I have used a pro to move our industrial machines, with the crane.
BUT..
My entrance is low, a carport, and quite angled. It drops about 60 cm over 3 m.

I would like to get some heavy stuff, like a 2-4000 kg industrial lathe, in.
Any ideas appreciated.
Would a forklift maybe work ?

I could, maybe easily and quickly, weld a cradle form mild steel, around the lathe for lift points from underneath.
Maybe make it wide, say about the height of lathe, or 1.6 m or so ?
Or .. wheels on the edges ?

Im worried about the rolling-down-uncontrolled part, and when the fast-moving lathe hits the end wall and goes through it...

[hermetic]

As I said earlier on in this post, you will be ok with a fork lift if you suspend the lathe below the forks on a lifting bar, I have seen more lathes (and other machinery too) wrecked by fork lift trucks whose drivers are utterly convinced that you lift everything from underneath. Lathes are top heavy!! They fall over!!

http://www.top-tec.co.uk/Industrial/Fork_Lift_Accessories/Adjustable_Hook/


Phil

[mattinker]

As I said earlier on in this post, you will be ok with a fork lift if you suspend the lathe below the forks on a lifting bar, I have seen more lathes (and other machinery too) wrecked by fork lift trucks whose drivers are utterly convinced that you lift everything from underneath. Lathes are top heavy!! They fall over!!

http://www.top-tec.co.uk/Industrial/Fork_Lift_Accessories/Adjustable_Hook/


Phil

I'll second that lathes are top heavy, to be lifted from above!

Regards, Matthew