Author Topic: Hi there from north east.  (Read 848 times)

Offline joegoldstraw

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 11
Hi there from north east.
« on: October 19, 2017, 10:09:44 AM »
Hi guys. Basically joining up as I've got my hands on and old boxford that needs some tlc and I'm fairly new to machines. I did a bit when an apprentice and also use the big lathe at work for guvvy jobs, but this is my first for home.



That's her in all her glory. Few bits missing such as tailstock but I'm hoping either the old boy I got it from has them buried in the shed or I can pick some up second hand.
It's currently still in the back of my van so I'm not sure of serial numbers yet but I will find out in due course.

All help and advice greatly appreciated.

Thank you


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline John Rudd

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2171
  • Country: gb
Re: Hi there from north east.
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2017, 10:41:56 AM »
Hi Joe, welcome from me...... :beer:

Nice Boxford you have, should look good once cleaned up...

Whereabouts in the NE are you?
eccentric millionaire financed by 'er indoors
Location:  Backworth Newcastle

Skype: chippiejnr

Offline seadog

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 125
  • Country: gb
  • NE London
Re: Hi there from north east.
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2017, 10:54:46 AM »
Welcome Joe.
There's a Boxford user group on Yahoo in case you're not aware of it -

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/BoxfordLathe-UserGroup

You'll find the serial number on top of the bed at the tailstock end. You can reference it here -

http://www.lathes.co.uk/boxford/page8.html

Offline Biggles

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 215
  • Country: gb
Re: Hi there from north east.
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2017, 11:48:04 AM »
Welcome Joe. :coffee:

Offline krv3000

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1947
  • Country: gb
Re: Hi there from north east.
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2017, 05:28:31 PM »
hi and welcome

Offline joegoldstraw

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 11
Re: Hi there from north east.
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2017, 06:28:29 PM »
Hi Joe, welcome from me...... :beer:

Nice Boxford you have, should look good once cleaned up...

Whereabouts in the NE are you?

Marske by the sea. Not sure if you know the area or not.

Yeah it will be great once I've had a fettle with it. It's currently nearly killed me once already just getting it up to the house (25 steps!!) biceps are paying the price today haha.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline joegoldstraw

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 11
Re: Hi there from north east.
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2017, 06:29:58 PM »
I've managed to find the number 3656 stamped in it (there are more but can't remember what they were). Definitely a few bit missing from it that I'll hopefully try and get hold of.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline John Rudd

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2171
  • Country: gb
Re: Hi there from north east.
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2017, 02:23:26 AM »
Hi Joe, welcome from me...... :beer:

Nice Boxford you have, should look good once cleaned up...

Whereabouts in the NE are you?

Marske by the sea. Not sure if you know the area or not.

Yeah it will be great once I've had a fettle with it. It's currently nearly killed me once already just getting it up to the house (25 steps!!) biceps are paying the price today haha.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


Yes, I know Marske, I used to live in Guisborough many years ago......served my apprenticeship at ICI
eccentric millionaire financed by 'er indoors
Location:  Backworth Newcastle

Skype: chippiejnr

Offline seadog

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 125
  • Country: gb
  • NE London
Re: Hi there from north east.
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2017, 04:17:30 AM »
3656 is the Boxford factory model number.

http://www.boxford-software.com/spares/3656menu.html

Offline joegoldstraw

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 11
Re: Hi there from north east.
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2017, 06:25:26 AM »
3656 is the Boxford factory model number.

http://www.boxford-software.com/spares/3656menu.html

Thank you. Everything that drives the auto feed is missing so I'm going to need that


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline seadog

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 125
  • Country: gb
  • NE London
Re: Hi there from north east.
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2017, 06:40:27 AM »
Hopefully you didn't pay a lot of money for it then. Parts do pop from time to time on eBay or Home Workshop. There is also a chap who's on the Boxford forum (Mark Lord) who breaks some for spares and is reasonably priced. I have his email address if you want to contact him.

Offline joegoldstraw

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 11
Hi there from north east.
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2017, 06:46:43 AM »
Hopefully you didn't pay a lot of money for it then. Parts do pop from time to time on eBay or Home Workshop. There is also a chap who's on the Boxford forum (Mark Lord) who breaks some for spares and is reasonably priced. I have his email address if you want to contact him.

I gave 150 for it off a lad at work. Seemed reasonable even with all the bits missing. Hopefully it won't cost the earth to get back up to spec. I already have a few expensive hobbies haha


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
« Last Edit: October 24, 2017, 06:13:36 PM by joegoldstraw »

Offline joegoldstraw

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 11
Re: Hi there from north east.
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2017, 06:13:04 PM »


My digits if they mean anything to you guys. Just bought some new belts for it also. A35 from lathe to drive pulleys and A32 from pulleys to motor


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline seadog

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 125
  • Country: gb
  • NE London
Re: Hi there from north east.
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2017, 06:50:28 PM »
That looks like a very early one. Early part of 1951 it seems, the year I was born

Offline joegoldstraw

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 11
Re: Hi there from north east.
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2017, 01:08:56 AM »
That looks like a very early one. Early part of 1951 it seems, the year I was born

It's going to be fun finding parts for it then have you had much to do with them? Do I need to strip out all the gearing to fit a new belt?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline seadog

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 125
  • Country: gb
  • NE London
Re: Hi there from north east.
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2017, 03:43:41 AM »
I have a 1963 AUD which I've owned since 1991. There's not a great deal of difference between yours and mine. Most parts from a pre-1966 model will fit yours. In fact, you can fit parts from the MKII and MKIII. If you want to spend the money you could upgrade to 'A' spec with the addition Norton gearbox and a change of apron (plus a few smaller parts), but this will be fairly expensive. Typically gearboxes go for 3-400.

Offline joegoldstraw

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 11
Re: Hi there from north east.
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2017, 05:22:04 AM »
I have a 1963 AUD which I've owned since 1991. There's not a great deal of difference between yours and mine. Most parts from a pre-1966 model will fit yours. In fact, you can fit parts from the MKII and MKIII. If you want to spend the money you could upgrade to 'A' spec with the addition Norton gearbox and a change of apron (plus a few smaller parts), but this will be fairly expensive. Typically gearboxes go for 3-400.

If I can get hold of a tailstock for now that would be perfect. I can hopefully feed by hand smooth enough for what I need lol


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline MetalMagus

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 26
  • Country: gb
Re: Hi there from north east.
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2017, 07:06:11 AM »
Keep an eye on the for sale page on Lathes.co.uk.

You might get lucky with the parts you need.

http://www.lathes.co.uk/page3.html/

Regards

Sean

Offline joegoldstraw

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 11
Re: Hi there from north east.
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2017, 07:53:49 AM »
Keep an eye on the for sale page on Lathes.co.uk.

You might get lucky with the parts you need.

http://www.lathes.co.uk/page3.html/

Regards

Sean

Thank you finger crossed


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline joegoldstraw

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 11
Re: Hi there from north east.
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2017, 07:01:49 PM »
I don't suppose anyone knows if a myford ML7 tailstock would fit on my boxford? There's loads of them on eBay


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline philf

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 794
  • Country: gb
Re: Hi there from north east.
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2017, 04:08:42 AM »
I don't suppose anyone knows if a myford ML7 tailstock would fit on my boxford? There's loads of them on eBay

It would but not without making a new base for it. The Myford Bed basically consists of two flat parallel bars and the Boxford uses a prismatic bed.

Also, the ML7 tailstock is a pain to use. If the barrel is retracted then it stops you operating the handwheel with the handles. The Boxford and Myford Super 7 tailstocks are much better than the ML7. (Later ML7R tailstocks were the same as the Super 7.)

Better to hold out for a Boxford one.

Phil.
Phil Fern
Location: Marple, Cheshire

Offline joegoldstraw

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 11
Re: Hi there from north east.
« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2017, 04:21:00 AM »
I don't suppose anyone knows if a myford ML7 tailstock would fit on my boxford? There's loads of them on eBay

It would but not without making a new base for it. The Myford Bed basically consists of two flat parallel bars and the Boxford uses a prismatic bed.

Also, the ML7 tailstock is a pain to use. If the barrel is retracted then it stops you operating the handwheel with the handles. The Boxford and Myford Super 7 tailstocks are much better than the ML7. (Later ML7R tailstocks were the same as the Super 7.)

Better to hold out for a Boxford one.

Phil.

Thanks Phil. I thought I'd check just to see if it was a quick fix to get me away. I'll keep my eyes peeled.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline Fergus OMore

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 979
Re: Hi there from north east.
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2017, 04:55:57 AM »
Maybe a tailstock from (say) a Sieg C4? One should be obtainable from new!


Now's there's a change?

N

Offline seadog

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 125
  • Country: gb
  • NE London
Re: Hi there from north east.
« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2017, 07:18:53 AM »
Why faff around modifying something? By the time you've bought it and machined it, or found someone to machine it, you might just as well have bought one. They fetch around 100 on eBay. Read my earlier post re a possible source.