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Polishing technique.... well it works!
« on: August 16, 2008, 03:57:37 AM »
So here is a vid that I made and was a bit uneasy about.... It is purely to show how to use the techniques not I'll repeat that NOT   telling anyone to use their lathe in this manner....
I have a very small workshop and it is the lack of space that prevents me from using a dedicated polishing machine.

I take the risk of having my hand whacked by the chuck.... A guard is under developement and when complete will be posted here too.

Anyway all that said, here is the vid.... Hope the techniques and descriptions help?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gLRoblphSeY

There is a good website out there too...  http://www.caswellplating.com/buffs/buffman.htm


Hope this all helps someone  :)


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Re: Polishing technique.... well it works!
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2008, 01:00:15 PM »
Of course it works. Nice presentation on polishing bits. Well done Ralph.

I have conscripted an unused drill press that I have into my polishing station. it works pretty good.

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Re: Polishing technique.... well it works!
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2008, 02:38:39 PM »
The Blingmister does it again. Very nice vid of how to polish.

You said you have a very small workshop, not enven room for just a motor to put the polishing mops on?

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Re: Polishing technique.... well it works!
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2008, 07:46:53 PM »
Wow!! Took you a while to see this one!

Bernd, my workshop area is approx 6.8' square!  That houses my 9x20 lathe and my mill (Pretty big for a hobby one)

Then there is my work bench and my compressor and my surface table then the bench vise and also a bench grinder and not to forget the multi former..... erm I think that's it..... !!

It took me 2 weeks to re-organise it so that I could work in it, and now you want me to find room for more!!  :o


I just think I will carry on as I am for now, not had any large mishaps to date (touch wood!)



Eric, is it a little odd having the mops on their side? ... I suppose that you get used to it?



Glad you like the theory behind the demo,



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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2008, 10:51:35 PM »
I guess you don't have much room do you, 6.8' square.  :o

Just looked around my little shop and it's way larger than yours. You must step out side your shop to change projects and your mind.  :D

Ya, it took me a while. Hey at my age it's a wonder I even saw it. :)  ::)

BTW, Casewell Plating is somewhat close to were I live.

Hey, sorry about asking you to install another machine in your cramped quarters. I keep forgetting how small some of your shops are over there. I'm surprised how much the Bog's got into his small shop. See I've got six acres over here to hid stuff, plus about 2300sq. ft. basement. Also have a 2 car garage that should fit 2 full size vehicles. At present the wife is lucky to get her VW Golf in and be able to open the door. See, "stuff" keeps following me home.  ;)

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P.S. I'm going to have to try that polishing technique sometime. I've got a polishing wheel around here somewere. Just need to make a mandrel to mount it in the lathe.
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2008, 08:12:28 PM »
Not much room at all!! .... When do I come over and move in?  ;D

If you have one try a collet chuck... Much safer!  I was thinking about making a morse 3 extended arbour to fit the 'pig tail' into my spindle without the need for the chuck.... A little safer.



As I state in the video... this is just my way (sing along if you have to!!  ;D )


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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2008, 08:55:54 PM »
Not much room at all!! .... When do I come over and move in?  ;D

As soon as they let you leave over there.  :D

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If you have one try a collet chuck... Much safer!  I was thinking about making a morse 3 extended arbour to fit the 'pig tail' into my spindle without the need for the chuck.... A little safer.

Hey, now there's a good idea. Using a taper arbor in the head stock. Kind of turns the lathe into a multi purpose tool.

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As I state in the video... this is just my way (sing along if you have to!!  ;D )


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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2008, 02:09:30 PM »
...See I've got six acres over here to hid stuff, plus about 2300sq. ft. basement.

Never ceases to amaze me... If only I had that kind of room. OFC, with 6 acres, i would have a garden steam train line too! What are you waiting for Bernd?

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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2008, 02:13:17 PM »
Ha!! I've been over there once... NYC last november.... Cool city  ;D

So do you want the address to send the ticket  :D


I will get back over there to that little country of yours! Just a matter of where all the funding is coming from!
I still haven't finished my house... had the damn thing 6 years and never lived in it!!!

Suppose that I should prioritise a bit more eh!?


I haven't made the arbour yet.... It is in the 'back of the mind' phase of design  ::)

I will also make a small guard for it as the spindle on my 9x20 has a whopping M40x4 thread on it.... that's a mangler if ever there was one!!!


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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2008, 03:41:57 PM »
...See I've got six acres over here to hid stuff, plus about 2300sq. ft. basement.

Never ceases to amaze me... If only I had that kind of room. OFC, with 6 acres, i would have a garden steam train line too! What are you waiting for Bernd?

Eric

Let's see ..... MONEY .... How's that.  ;D  Oh, and a lot of ambition.  :P

I have the plans for a 1.5" scale Shay and have thought about putting in a system.

But if you ever saw how far I need to go to finish the house before I can spend full time on the hobbies you'd know I might never get to the live steam.
And there's a thing called "wife" that says I need to finish the house before I can play. Damit. Just can't win.  :(

I guess I'll never run out of things to do. I've known some people that have no hobbies and all they do sit around waiting to meet the grim reaper. At least I'll go with to much to do.  ;D

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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2008, 04:10:38 PM »
What are you waiting for? Finish the house already! I do know the feeling though, I got so many things to do before I can play.

Money is the other huge issue I have as well. Maybe you find something to do with the hobby stuff to make money? Look at Bog, he makes engines and then sells them. I am close to doing something similar... got pay for bigger toys to make better stuff. who knows, maybe one day my hobby will turn into a full time business.

swmbo, gotta listen to her. Give some and take some, the divine balance is there somewhere. :)

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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2008, 04:21:09 PM »
Not to take away from the thread here but ah, I think we're off topic and hi-jacking Ralph's thread.

Although if we're polishing up the wife so we can play, then I'd say we are on topic.  :o

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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2008, 04:24:51 PM »
True. but it is just as much as Ralphs fault as ours.  ;D
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2008, 04:28:00 PM »

Eric, is it a little odd having the mops on their side? ... I suppose that you get used to it?


Back on topic...

It was a little... Gotta be careful for if the mop catches a piece and rips it out of your hand it goes across the room at great force. I have been thinking of modifying it so it takes up less room and positions the mop at the correct angle.

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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2008, 08:15:38 PM »
Eric, I think you will find that Bog's swaps his little crafted engines for some of that other stuff we all want....

Now back onto the important bit.... I am single (no extra help in the what to do department) and have just enough money to enjoy a little of my life, and do very little to my house!  Still I enjoy what I make and find my shop the only true place I have to relax and lose myself in a world that I really like.

I am not saying this in a depressed state (most of the time I'm quite chipper  :D ) just letting you know that is what my shop is....  Life therapy!!  ;)


Now about this polishing stuff.... I will soon create the spindle previously discussed and then the current video will be re-made, ok so I will lose the hit rating on ulube but it will be a bit of a safer posting ;D


Sleep now talk later!



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« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2008, 05:58:56 PM »
My first contribution here is to give young Ralph a little push in public.

He has no excuse now for putting off this project. I read this post a while back, and while Ralph was on his visit, I donated the necessary bits to make himself a SAFER polishing pigtail.

SO

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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2008, 06:13:30 PM »
No excuse no Ralph! Got it from the master's own mouth!

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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2008, 06:25:05 PM »
Good evening Mr Standard   :thumbup:
I'll start work on that when I next need to polish.... Shouldn't be too long  ;)


I have the two main items here too.... And it will surely only be a matter of 20 mins or so to convert to said safer option.

Now, just need to finish a few outstanding items and were ready to start some more fun projects  ;D



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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2008, 08:19:54 PM »
Well eventually due to a few donated parts  ;)

A new buffing wheel spindle..... Look maw!..... No chuck!!!   :D



MT3 blank....


A bit of free hand shaping,  ;D  making sure to leave a collar the same size as the thread... A bit safer than turning it all down to 16MM  ;)


A little flat to aid drilling.


Driled and tapped for grubscrew M6x1.0.


drill for pigtail shaft to fit, in this instance 6mm


And you end up with this....  :thumbup:


Add a buffing mop and you are away  ;D


This not only provides a Great deal more safety but also allows you to get to both sides of the mop easily  ;D

Very happy with this mod  ;) Just used it to polish a the mini ball turner  ;D

I am thinking about a cover for the threads.... Just a cylinder held in place by the MT3, there is enough of a gap between the arbour and the spindle to accommodate a cover.... Well that's for the next time I'm going to polish something  ;D



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And it will surely only be a matter of 20 mins or so to convert to said safer option
And it took me about an hour due to styling .... For safety that was!!  ;)  :thumbup:
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« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2008, 01:07:59 AM »
Ralph,

That is much safer now, no more nearly knocked knuckles. You should find now that your polishing will be a lot easier now you can easily get to all areas of the mop.

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Now all we need is a demo vid of it in action.



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Re: Polishing technique.... well it works!
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2008, 05:23:17 AM »
I think you'll feel safer now without that chuck constantly threatening you  :bugeye:

Simple idea, but ver neat and effective, do I detect an mt3 collet hiding there somewhere?

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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2008, 08:32:31 AM »
No vid as yet John.... But there is plenty of project material on the way I hope  ;D

Darren, no collets required. The MT3 arbour pushes directly into the spindle as it is ground to accept MT3... Works really well and holds very firmly.

And it feels much, much safer  ;D


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« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2008, 12:31:14 PM »
Ah, gotcha  ;)
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« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2008, 01:29:45 PM »
The MT3 arbour pushes directly into the spindle

And, should it develop the habit of working loose, adding a drawbar is a simple task.

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« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2009, 03:48:45 PM »
Ok.... Safety update!!  :)


I had a hole in my day today so filled it with a little shop time.... I made the guard for the polishing mop arbour... A few pics that explain all


Please forgive the chattering on the boring.... It was perfect until the final skim.... Then chattered like a good un!!!












That should do to let you see now there are far less chances of being hauled into the machinery.

No sharp edges and smooth contours to hopefully glide off if need arises (can't see why, but you never know!!)

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Soon to follow a new video to replace the current one, it will look better and safer if done with this attachment    :ddb:





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