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A bit of casting
« on: November 14, 2010, 11:33:17 AM »
Hi Lads  :wave:

Its been a wile since i have had my furnace fired up  ,,,5 months going by the RW engine post  :doh:  ,,, Well i have being doing a bit casting today  :ddb: :ddb:

I have a couple of jobs on for lads on here ,, First up is a water jacket  ,, a few shots of the pattens being made so you can see how they are built up .




The core box


Now with a bit of slap on .




Making the core.




The two harfs stuck to getter after baking


A few shots of the mould

Burning of the mould wash ,,, home blend of traditional herbs and spices .


Core in place


All ready to go


Bearings warming up in the exhaust , so they are pre warmed for the pot .


Pored


Looking good this side


Hole this side  :doh: ,, cold shut   ,,,,,,,, ooooooops  :lol: :lol:  



O there goes the timer bell on the cooker ,,,, new set of cores ready  :ddb: :ddb: :ddb: :ddb:


Back soon Rob  :D



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Re: A bit of casting
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2010, 11:46:05 AM »
That is Awesome!!! I have never done anything with Cores yet. What is "mold wash" I have never heard of it before. I've had my share of flops.  :wave:
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Re: A bit of casting
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2010, 11:56:04 AM »
Looking good Rob, I know a man who will be happy with that hopper, shame it won't hold water, maybe he's got a bit of JB Weld or his prefered Milliput knocking about :thumbup:

Are you going to do your engine with a similar hopper ?

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Re: A bit of casting
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2010, 12:28:45 PM »
Methinks Jason is spot on.

I was only speaking to Rob the other day on Skype, and I was shown the fantastic patterns then. Then my thoughts kicked in, and the drooling from the mouth corners started.

Rob had already pre warned me about the failures at the beginning, so knowing what a bit of a perfectionist Rob is, I am sure all will come good in the end.

So this post will spur me on to get all my backlogs finished, allowing me get onto the R&B engine.

 :ddb: :ddb: :ddb: :ddb: :ddb: :ddb: :ddb: :ddb: :ddb: :ddb:


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Re: A bit of casting
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2010, 01:08:34 PM »
Really classy work.  :clap:

Better luck next cast, Rob!  :thumbup:

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Re: A bit of casting
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2010, 01:21:48 PM »
Nice one Rob, ..... didn't know you did woodturning ... Myford Maestro ??

I had a Coronet CMB500, although it often had the slot mortiser on it..

Did a good few bowls and the like, but never really mastered bead turning with the skew-chisel.
Usually landed up practising pole-vaulting ...  :(

Never tried to turn my pyjamas though ....( pic #1 )  :lol:

I'm off .....

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Re: A bit of casting
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2010, 01:28:42 PM »
Cheer LADS  :D


Wes ,,"mold wash"  is a coating usually sprayed onto the cavity ,, it helps the molten metal flow across the surface of the mold , fills in the pores of the sand giving a better finish and stops the sand sticking to the casting .


Jason ,, :lol: :lol: :lol: milliput ,, wonder if you can get it in bronze colour  :scratch: do you reckon John would notice  :lol: :lol: :lol:  ,, No,, i am doing the water jacket a different way  :med:   


Hi David ,,,,,,,,, next time  :doh:  ,is coming up


Hi Dave ,BC  ,,, i get by  :lol: :lol: :lol: the skew  :bang: :bang:   that reminds me i have a couple of parts to cast for the myford wood lathe


Rob  :D

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Re: A bit of casting
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2010, 01:43:59 PM »

Jason ,, :lol: :lol: :lol: milliput ,, wonder if you can get it in bronze colour  :scratch: do you reckon John would notice  :lol: :lol: :lol:  ,, No,, i am doing the water jacket a different way  :med:   


Teracotta mixed with a lot of white and you may get away with it or just use one part of the yellow/grey one though it may stay a bit sticky ::)

Fill it with braze or silver solder a bit of material into the hole, spray it with a coat of primer before you give it to Bogs and he'll never know :D

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Re: A bit of casting
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2010, 01:44:31 PM »
Well John no cigars this time  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


You no its not worked when you you see this  :doh: ,,, mold split  ::)
 

But the new gating and a tad hotter pore did fix the cold shut problem on the thin section of the casting   :ddb: :ddb: :ddb:



And the fun side  :doh: :lol: :lol: :lol:



I can count on one hand the times i have had a mould split .Not to worry tomorrows another day ,, I have had a fun day  :ddb: :ddb: ,, my new molding flasks work a treat , and i am fit to cast  :ddb: :ddb: :ddb: :D


Cheers Rob ,, time for a large one  :beer:





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Re: A bit of casting
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2010, 03:02:18 PM »
Well Rob, you did reckon on about four pours before you really get it singing. No worries, you'll get it cracked.

BTW Rob, if you see my Skype on green, could you give me a call.

Jason, it isn't just me Rob has to fool, it is Bandit as well, he can sniff bullsh and woffle at two hundred yards, and he's got real teeth to get his point across, whereas mine only get inserted when royalty calls.
Getting into my yard is easy, getting out again is the problem.

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Re: A bit of casting
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2010, 03:14:22 PM »
Hi John

That one would have been just the job if the mould had not bust  :lol: :lol:   ,,,, but were is the fun in getting it right fist time   :ddb: :ddb: :ddb:


Rob  :D

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Re: A bit of casting
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2010, 03:21:33 PM »
Looking good Rob

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Re: A bit of casting
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2010, 03:47:41 PM »
Oh BUGGA!  :doh:

Well Rob..... I guess you must need the extra practice......   ::)

As the man said...... Better luck next cast!  :thumbup:

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Re: A bit of casting
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2010, 03:59:51 PM »
Hi David

BUGGA was not the word i used  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

At least your flywheels will be easy  :med:


Rob  :D

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Re: A bit of casting
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2010, 04:14:15 PM »
So whats it made of? Mold wash?  :)
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Re: A bit of casting
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2010, 04:30:58 PM »
Don't  tell anyone cos its a secret ,Wes  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 a flammable liquid , i use brake/carb cleaner ,,, something light that burn easy ,, graphite powder ,, you have to keep giving it a shake as the graphite settles out and a  bit treacle/molasses .   the brake cleaner carries the graphite powder so it can be spayed and when set a fire the molasses is baked on  sticking the graphite to the surface . Also the burning off of the brake cleaner skin dries the mould .

Just something i came up with a bit trial and error  :smart: works well for me ,,,, Great on cast iron ,, gives the casting a nice black finish

Rob    

Edit ,, forgot to say i use one of those pump up sprayer to apply it with .
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Re: A bit of casting
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2010, 04:35:19 PM »
Thanks Rob :wave: I'll have to give it a try. do you bake your Cores with Molasses also? I have some Sodium Silicate to try out. Just need more time :smart:
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A Gismo ??? If it has a flywheel or spins and is made with small parts. I'll take one! If it makes noise, moves, or requires frequent oiling and dusting it's a better deal yet. It's especially right if its shiny and bright; but if it's dirty and dull it wont mater at all...

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Re: A bit of casting
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2010, 04:45:15 PM »
I do Wes  :thumbup:

This is the mix i use


10 parts silica sand  ,,,,,DRY

5 parts  moulding sand ,,,,,DRY

1 part  core binder ,,,, which is a type of corn starch i think

Mix above dry

Temper with molasses water  or core oil (linseed oil ) 

Core oil dose give a better core , but stinks when baking .

Rob


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Re: A bit of casting
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2010, 11:53:05 PM »
his sound about right?

..... mixture 50/50% zircon flour and graphite stirred into either alcohol.......

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Re: A bit of casting
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2010, 01:42:43 AM »
It sure is gonna be pretty on the next pour, Rob.   :beer:
Your posts are a real pleasure, always!  It's good for me to see a persistent fellow at work, too.   :clap:
Inspirational, and all that, seeing how much work goes into each of these pours, and you just seem
to make light of it when you have a little (or big) catastrophe.  You just keep at it like you're killin' snakes! 

Now, is that "B" for Bogs, or for Bandit?   :scratch: 

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Re: A bit of casting
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2010, 02:37:35 AM »
The first one Dean, but because it is on two sides, it could mean both of us, we are a team after all.

But unlike Rob's main casting, where he has cast his name onto it, I hope to have a brass plate engraved up for mine, 'Bog's & Bandit Manufacturing Co.' or something to that effect.

All you people can't feel the expectations I am feeling at this time.

To have Rob, in my eyes a master caster, making something for little ol' me, to finish off my engine to perfection and uniqueness, is truly mind blowing. Beyond my wildest dreams. I only hope that the rest of the engine will turn out as well as this will, and be able to do this piece justice.

What all you onlookers don't realise is the amount of work that Rob has put into this one item.

From my C-o-C's that I sent him, with a roughie set of dimensions and ideas, he sent me back some fantastic CAD drawings (some even rotated) showing what the finished article would be like. It was truly like being at a birth, a lump came to my throat just looking at them.

What the original drawing looks like, showing the copper tube cooling jacket





My measly offerings




And What Rob came up with, click pic to see.




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Re: A bit of casting
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2010, 03:06:24 PM »
Cheers Dean

I always try and  look for the positive , there is always something to learn from a mishap   :lol: :lol:  and i think its good to show that its not all plain sailing ,even if it gets a laugh  :D


I am going a different rout as regards the water jacket  ,,, something like this ,,, still not quiet there

 


Two cores ,, could be done with one core and a liner  ,,,,,,,,,,  but two will be more fun  :)


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Re: A bit of casting
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2010, 04:30:34 PM »
I had forgotten you have yet to make patterns and cast your cylinder Rob.

So it is just common sense that you build your water jacket into it as it is being made.

So another unique engine.


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Re: A bit of casting
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2010, 06:38:30 PM »
It's quite a leap from Bog's first drawing to the 360° animation.  I mean, Rob filled in a lot of blanks
and came up with a unique and interesting original.  And then, the casting itself...
Quite a good show.  I can see why you're excited about it, John!
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Re: A bit of casting
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2010, 02:03:35 PM »
Hi Chaps  :wave:

Here are a few photos of some of the other  patterns  i hope to get cast over the weekend




And a door and frame for the stand i made for the wood lathe ,,covers the hole thats needed in the side to gain access for the belt change





Looks like i will have the furnace running a fare bit this weekend  :ddb: :ddb: :ddb: :ddb: :ddb:


 :beer: Rob