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A new specialty magazine
« on: February 06, 2011, 07:35:39 PM »
A good friend of mine and I were talking a few days ago. Both his and my interests are in fairly complicated Stationary Steam engines. While I have nothing against the Internal Combustion types of engine, And I've learned a huge ammount reading about how the average HSM person builds and overcomes all the hard parts like cam and crank manufacturing for both single and multi cylinder engines. It's still not where my major interests are. As far as magazines for the average HSM person, The people who build Live steam Locomotives,I.C. Engines, Workshop equipment, ect. That seems to be fairly well covered. Various magazines like Model Engineer, Model Engineers Workshop, Engineering in Miniature, Model Engine Builder Magazine, Live Steam, along with the Village press magazines cover the above topics pretty well. Yet Probably a higher majority of people build stationary steam engines than I.C., Workshop Equipment as a partial or total hobby, Or even Locomotives.

Both my friends points and mine were, Looking at various older Model Engineer magazines. There was a huge ammount of some very nice and really rare engines built over the years. Yet it was spaced out and massive ammounts of this information has been lost for good unless you have access to those back issues. Our thoughts were that a magazine of this type should be done along the lines of how and what Fine Woodworking magazine publishes for the woodworker. Maybe a high end, Glossy, well done and researched magazine. Live Steam and Outdoor Railroading is running a series for a gothic beam engine almost exactly like I'm talking about. I'd like to post this thread on this forum and on the other forums I belong to for say 60 days and given enough interest I'd like to forward these threads to various Model Engineering magazine publishers. If you don't post then your voice won't be heard. For those that agree or even disagree with this thread I'd appreciate your comments. So what is the general interest level for a magazine dealing with Stationary Steam Engines?

Peten
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Re: A new specialty magazine
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2011, 08:10:08 PM »
What about doing it on line to reduce costs.

Take a look at this.

http://modelengineeringwebsite.com/Home.html

It's not the subject you want I was putting it forward more for the idea and layout.

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Re: A new specialty magazine
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2011, 11:08:05 PM »
Hi John,
I hadn't seen that site before. Yeah you have a point about a online magazine. Just so I'm 100% clear. I personaly would have no intensions of doing this. I'm an equipment operator so the best I could do is bury the magazine. But even with todays prevelence of computers I still think most people prefer a paper copy they can hold in their hands. I've also put my original post on 2 other forums. The whole post may not even be a good idea. I'm just trying to gather opinions. If? there was enough positive points from people then I'd forward the whole mess to the publishers of our types of magazines. Then again it may just get ignored.

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Re: A new specialty magazine
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2011, 01:21:40 PM »
Well it's not a new specialty magazine, But we started a brand new forum for steam.

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Re: A new specialty magazine
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2011, 01:28:51 PM »
Well it's not a new specialty magazine, But we started a brand new forum for steam.

Pete

Oh? do you mean Pat's site?

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Re: A new specialty magazine
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2011, 01:33:53 PM »
Eric,
Yeah, that's the one. I enjoy this site but my own interests are towards steam.

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Re: A new specialty magazine
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2011, 01:56:42 PM »
Yup. Been talking to Pat about his site. Not sure, is he doing a specific type of steam? or is it all steam engines?
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Re: A new specialty magazine
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2011, 02:11:46 PM »
How about a link?

I'd like to see what's up.

A comment about the magazine. I think it would be to specialist and won't be able to sustain itself. Just my opinion.

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Re: A new specialty magazine
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2011, 02:20:39 PM »
Bernd,
I would, But it's my understanding that linking a new forum on another site is a bit frowned upon. Were not trying to pull members away from other sites like this. That would be counter productive. Brass_Machine, If it's steam it's fine. Were still a little bare bones compared to here but it looks promising.

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Re: A new specialty magazine
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2011, 02:22:56 PM »
LINK

No problem really
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Re: A new specialty magazine
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2011, 02:27:32 PM »
Bernd,
I would, But it's my understanding that linking a new forum on another site is a bit frowned upon. Were not trying to pull members away from other sites like this. That would be counter productive.

Pete

Pete,

It is sort of frowned on (on some forums)... However, I don't mind links to other forums or personal websites (just not for profit corp sites). You can put it in your signature if you want. Members will be members where ever they want. We are such a small community, we have to support* each other. Besides, we are not a model engine (steam or IC) forum. We are a project forum... that means most everything goes here... engines, yo-yos, robots... you name it.

Eric

* I have offered to give Pat advice/help about administrative items until he gets comfortable with the software...
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Re: A new specialty magazine
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2011, 02:35:12 PM »
Brass,
Thank you, I certainly wasn't fishing for new members. I try to be very careful about stepping on toes. LOL, I may be a little paranoid from being a member on the Practical Machinist forum. And no I'm certainly not comparing this site to an example of a ??? Nope, I better not say it. But the link has already been put up so people are free to check out or not.

Pete
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Re: A new specialty magazine
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2011, 02:52:22 PM »
No problem Pete. I have joined there (I am a steamer after all). I hope to see it grow and prosper.

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Re: A new specialty magazine
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2011, 03:36:55 PM »
Eric-

Thanks for your gracious mention on your forum.
I appreciate that very much.

We are non-commercial, and will always remain non-commercial.
We are in it for the fun of it.
No amount of money could justify the work I put into the hobby.

As a further note about the magazine that Pete mentions above, my memory (which is terrible) has been jogged, and I recall the "magazine" discussions Pete and I had.  Those discussions somehow created a "Steam Forum", but I think that was something we needed to establish in order to move towards a magazine.

The magazine Pete refer's to has actually been started, and is called "Steam Engine Technology".
I have created the first edition, which is about the Dake steam engine.
I have not widely distributed the first edition because Mike Rehmus with MEB became interested in the article, and is working on incorporating most of it into an article in his magazine.  Mike Rehmus hired Ernie Daniel to create a spectacular 3D model of the Dake, with some fine 2D drawings that will be published in MEB.
For this reason, I cannot release the first edition of "Steam Engine Technology".
It should be noted that I have furnished all my materials and information to Mike Rehmus at no cost, and will not receive any money for the article.  I am not in it for the money, rather for a love of the hobby.

If there is an interest, we can consider further "Steam Engine Technology Magazine" editions.

Pat J

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Re: A new specialty magazine
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2011, 08:02:59 PM »
Hi Pat,

Just quickly surfed through your site. Very interesting and nice.  :thumbup:

Looks like it could be a repository for alot of steam info.

Thanks for sharing that.

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Re: A new specialty magazine
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2011, 12:01:35 AM »
Thanks Bernd-

The new site is sort of a hybrid website/forum for steam.

I hope to get going on some interesting group-type builds on the site soon. (everyone builds the same engine at the same time, not a tradtional group build, but a parallel build really).

I like the variety of this and other sited, but I like a steam place which also incorporates historical data.

Take care,

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Re: A new specialty magazine
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2011, 05:22:39 AM »
For me it would be very intressting.  :thumbup:
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Re: A new specialty magazine
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2011, 09:37:45 PM »
I enthusiastically read the Model Engineer from 1952 till about 1980.  I also have read Fine Woodworking since the first issue.  The advantage that publications like Fine Woodworking have is that collections of their articles are readily available.  Articles in Model Engineer are not available online earlier than about 1990 I believe.
There is a market out there for online editions - its got to be cheaper than storing and mailing out back issues.

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