Author Topic: pin wrench/pin spanner  (Read 24277 times)

Offline SPiN Racing

  • Madmodder Committee
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 506
pin wrench/pin spanner
« on: June 21, 2011, 11:27:47 AM »
Sooo I am working on another project. But I need to order a couple small parts before that build progresses, and I start the build project.
However in order to order the parts I needed to order (whew) I needed to do a little disassembly..
In order to do that I needed a tool I didn’t have.... (of course)

SOO In good Madmodder form I decided to make the tool instead of buying it for 150 DOLLARS!!!  :bugeye:

The tool I need is often listed as a pin wrench, pin spanner, or some derivative of that with a weird proprietary code name. It also carries a hefty price tag depending on where you buy it from. So I was annoyed with that so decided to make TWO of them myself.

The two nuts have 4 radial slots in them, and are tightened against each other. So therefore I need two wrenches. They also need to be (trying to remember the dimension) .2" wide max with a .1 pin IIRC (If I remember correctly)






We begin this task with two cheap Chinese Vice grips from our local ultra cheap closeout junk store Big Lots. 4 bucks each.
Add in two 1/4-20 by 1/2 inch long bolts with square heads, and were on our way.

For starters I needed to drill a hole through the head of the vice grips to thread for facilitating the bolt placement. In order to do that I needed to mill off a flat spot on the head of the vice grips.
However its hardened.. so I needed to anneal it first.. which consisted of heating it with a propane torch till it was putting off a orange flame, and faintly glowing.. then letting it SLOWLY cool back down, by reducing the flame over 2 minutes till it was off.
Once cool I was able to mill a flat spot on the head of each wrench.

Pre- annealing



After the annealing and flat being cut, I was able to spot drill it with zero issues.


From here I was able to easily drill right through it, and then run my 1/4 -20 tap right on through.





At this point.. I needed to mill down the heads of the bolts, as they were too thick, and too tall… so I needed to take them in the mill and make them smaller.
SO thinking like a mechanic.. not a mechinist.. I put them in double nuits, got them Ultra tight, and chucked them in the vice so I could just machine em on down with the carbide single sided mill I have.
Now looking at that picture below.. do you see any issues with that concept?? Potential failure points???





After standing there scratching my head listing to that voice screaming at me in my head.. I was thinking… what a minute… if the mill comes in contact with that… it will impart a rotational force… and the bolt will TURN.. and then its clearances will suddenly change radically.. causing the ¾ inch indexed carbide bitted mill to likely explode all over me.
Using my brain for a second.. I decided that was stupid.. and thought like a mechanic for a few instead.






From that point… feeling refreshed from almost being a dumbass. I moved to milling the teeth out of the vice grips, and making them the proper radius for the nuts I needed removed.

Enter the 3” boring head!

Initial setup I decided to change….


The final setup post machining.



The wrenches.
Welded the top of them.
Ground them down on both sides taking the shoulder off of the jaw opening.
Heating and quenching them to re-harden them.





Clipped onto the rear nut nicely.


Double jaw…



TADAAAA



So now to remove that little pin that sticks up.. and take measurements for the thrust bearings on each side….. and begin posting another thread for that main project.

Scott
SPiN Racing

Offline DaveH

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1413
  • Country: za
  • Kempton Park, South Africa
Re: pin wrench/pin spanner
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2011, 12:33:57 PM »
Why do I not see any photos :doh: :doh: :doh:
 :beer:
DaveH
(Ex Leicester, Thurmaston, Ashby De La Zouch.)

Offline DaveH

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1413
  • Country: za
  • Kempton Park, South Africa
Re: pin wrench/pin spanner
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2011, 12:47:44 PM »
Yawellnofine,

I see I have to register at .....

bit of a b......... in'it :hammer:

o'well back to sleep :)

DaveH
(Ex Leicester, Thurmaston, Ashby De La Zouch.)

Offline HS93

  • In Memoriam
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 788
  • Country: gb
Re: pin wrench/pin spanner
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2011, 01:06:29 PM »
Why do I not see any photos :doh: :doh: :doh:
 :beer:
DaveH

It's your turn not to see pictures this week    :( :( :(

have you paid the new membership Tax ? :)

what program are you using to view the web   IE8/9   thunderbird etc ? there ok nice big and bright on IE8                          :nrocks:

                                           :ddb: :ddb:  :ddb: Peter  :ddb: :ddb: :ddb:   
I am usless at metalwork, Oh and cannot spell either . failure

Offline spuddevans

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1618
  • Country: 00
  • Portadown, Northern Ireland
    • My Photo website
Re: pin wrench/pin spanner
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2011, 01:08:17 PM »
Cool project.


Why do I not see any photos :doh: :doh: :doh:
 :beer:
DaveH

Fine on Firefox 4.0.1, I see all the pics ok :thumbup:

Tim
Measure with a micrometer, mark with chalk, cut with an axe  -  MI0TME

Offline HS93

  • In Memoriam
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 788
  • Country: gb
Re: pin wrench/pin spanner
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2011, 01:18:29 PM »
Yawellnofine,

I see I have to register at .....

bit of a b......... in'it :hammer:

o'well back to sleep :)

DaveH

   And dave they are realy nice big pictures full off detail, Gosh you are missing such a lot  :( :(  where you a naughty child ?  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: becase it may be pay back time....

                                        :ddb: :ddb: :ddb:  OR BECAUSE YOU ARE ABOUT TO STEAL OUR SUN   :ddb: :ddb: :ddb:

Peter









I am usless at metalwork, Oh and cannot spell either . failure

Offline DaveH

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1413
  • Country: za
  • Kempton Park, South Africa
Re: pin wrench/pin spanner
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2011, 01:21:51 PM »
Peter,

whot you mean this week, did'nt see 'em last week or the weeks before :lol: :lol: :lol:

Tim,
not fine on my Firefox 4.0.1 :( :( :(

All I see is boxes with a frog in them ........ do I have to kiss the frog?

  :worthless:

DaveH
(Ex Leicester, Thurmaston, Ashby De La Zouch.)

Offline DaveH

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1413
  • Country: za
  • Kempton Park, South Africa
Re: pin wrench/pin spanner
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2011, 01:25:49 PM »
Peter,

Steal your SUN, you aint got none, tried to watch the cricket, RAIN RAIN RAIN,

Show me the pics :D :D :D :D

 :beer:
DaveH
(Ex Leicester, Thurmaston, Ashby De La Zouch.)

Offline DaveH

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1413
  • Country: za
  • Kempton Park, South Africa
Re: pin wrench/pin spanner
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2011, 01:32:42 PM »
Hi,

Don't see them on IE8 either,

lots of boxes with frogs in :lol:

DaveH
(Ex Leicester, Thurmaston, Ashby De La Zouch.)

Offline HS93

  • In Memoriam
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 788
  • Country: gb
Re: pin wrench/pin spanner
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2011, 01:44:58 PM »
I lied  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Peter
I am usless at metalwork, Oh and cannot spell either . failure

Offline DaveH

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1413
  • Country: za
  • Kempton Park, South Africa
Re: pin wrench/pin spanner
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2011, 01:50:26 PM »
I lied  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Peter

I'm heart broken  :(

 :beer:
DaveH
(Ex Leicester, Thurmaston, Ashby De La Zouch.)

Offline dickda1

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 161
Re: pin wrench/pin spanner
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2011, 02:03:57 PM »
You're the man :bow:

I'm building one of these.

-Dick
sunny (mostly) San Francisco, land of looney people, sane politics and occasional earthquakes.
Skype: VladTheChemist

Offline DaveH

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1413
  • Country: za
  • Kempton Park, South Africa
Re: pin wrench/pin spanner
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2011, 02:11:57 PM »
Show me the pics
(Ex Leicester, Thurmaston, Ashby De La Zouch.)

Rob.Wilson

  • Guest
Re: pin wrench/pin spanner
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2011, 02:19:57 PM »
 :clap: :clap: :clap: clever idea  :med: :dremel:

Rob

Offline DaveH

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1413
  • Country: za
  • Kempton Park, South Africa
Re: pin wrench/pin spanner
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2011, 02:20:40 PM »
Huh,

DaveH
(Ex Leicester, Thurmaston, Ashby De La Zouch.)

Offline Bluechip

  • Madmodder Committee
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1513
  • Country: england
  • Derbyshire UK
Re: pin wrench/pin spanner
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2011, 02:23:17 PM »
What sort of frogs ????

BC


BTW I think they are what I call a 'C' spanner ...

Good thinking though, always seem to de-skin my knuckles with C -spanners ...
I have a few modest talents. Knowing what I'm doing isn't one of them.

Offline DaveH

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1413
  • Country: za
  • Kempton Park, South Africa
Re: pin wrench/pin spanner
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2011, 02:32:34 PM »
Dave BC

What sort of frogs ????

Yellow 'uns ...... just like Arnolds lathe :lol: :lol: :lol:

 :beer:

Daveh
(Ex Leicester, Thurmaston, Ashby De La Zouch.)

Offline DavidA

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1219
  • Country: gb
Re: pin wrench/pin spanner
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2011, 02:45:35 PM »
I had to make three sets of C spanners for my lathe.  The easy option is to cut them out uf a strip of BMS with a hack saw and a file.

I suppose you could be really flash and use guage plate if you want to harden them.

Quick and dirty.  Worked for me.

Dave.

p.s.

HS93,

 Re things Mozilla.  Thunderbird is an Email client,  not a web browser.  You need Firefox for that.


Offline SPiN Racing

  • Madmodder Committee
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 506
Re: pin wrench/pin spanner
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2011, 03:22:48 PM »
Heya all!

Um sorry your PC isnt showing the Pics.. not sure on that.. it is likely a configuration issue with the PC itself. I would delve into troubleshooting it but that would require a different thread/forum to cover the pitfalls of IE/Chrome/Firefox and making the three of them play happy on a PC, or not..

The spanners were about 5 minutes from being cut with the plazma torch from a plate of 1/4 inch steel. But the thing is damn heavy at 3' by 4' and I was being lazy as it was something like 436 degrees outside.. so the thought of standing outside in the sun and using the torch to make a plate of steel hotter wasnt appealing. Then there was all the hand filing and grinding.

SO yeah..
As my friend Mike says.. Smashing Gnats with a sledge hammer.  :hammer:


Scott
SPiN Racing

Offline DaveH

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1413
  • Country: za
  • Kempton Park, South Africa
Re: pin wrench/pin spanner
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2011, 03:40:21 PM »
Hi Scott,

This is what I see boxes with a frog in it :(








DaveH
(Ex Leicester, Thurmaston, Ashby De La Zouch.)

Offline HS93

  • In Memoriam
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 788
  • Country: gb
Re: pin wrench/pin spanner
« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2011, 03:59:05 PM »
nothing wrong with them pictures,

Peter
I am usless at metalwork, Oh and cannot spell either . failure

Offline DaveH

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1413
  • Country: za
  • Kempton Park, South Africa
Re: pin wrench/pin spanner
« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2011, 04:02:21 PM »
nothing wrong with them pictures, Peter

There're all the bluudy same :doh: :doh: :doh: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:

 :beer:

DaveH

(Ex Leicester, Thurmaston, Ashby De La Zouch.)

Offline SPiN Racing

  • Madmodder Committee
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 506
Re: pin wrench/pin spanner
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2011, 04:14:10 PM »
you seen to be the only one not seeing them. Sorry. But even your reply has them.

Scott
SPiN Racing

Offline DaveH

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1413
  • Country: za
  • Kempton Park, South Africa
Re: pin wrench/pin spanner
« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2011, 04:17:59 PM »
you seen to be the only one not seeing them. Sorry. But even your reply has them.

Scott

Well that is strange, I have no idea then - It does say "To view register at ........."

So do I have to register to see them?

DaveH
(Ex Leicester, Thurmaston, Ashby De La Zouch.)

Offline SPiN Racing

  • Madmodder Committee
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 506
Re: pin wrench/pin spanner
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2011, 04:27:13 PM »
you shouldnt. They are hosted at imageshack.us
But everything I have posted here and all the other forums I have ever participated in have been hosted there. SO no idea why you cant see them. I even had a co-worker check on firefox, chrome and IE.
SPiN Racing