Author Topic: Project "Bugout"  (Read 11274 times)

Offline 1hand

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 113
  • Country: us
Project "Bugout"
« on: March 21, 2013, 12:15:52 AM »
I bought a run down old 88 YJ jeep about a month ago.



















Got started tonight on the tear down.



Topless



Hood, fender flares, seats, carpet, and tires gone................



Inside tub pretty good except for the drivers side floor.








Offline 1hand

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 113
  • Country: us
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2013, 12:18:41 AM »















The engines new home for a while.





Offline 1hand

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 113
  • Country: us
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2013, 12:19:59 AM »
Well we are down to the bare bones now!!


Offline 1hand

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 113
  • Country: us
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2013, 12:21:43 AM »


Cleaned it up to see how bad it was. Sounded thin about 2/3's the way down on the inside as I tapped on it. Also notice I removed the upper track bar mount.



I found a piece of 13ga and bent up the new replacement section.



I don't have a Mig, but do have a 185amp Tig/Arc welder. Just takes a bit longer thats all. That is my helper today Chloe Jo "CJ" setting the amps for me.



Notched out the frame for the replacement, and removed last years stash of acorns!!!



Ta Da!



Moving rearward, the gas tank cross member has holes rusted through.



Notched out the bad, and took some measurements.



I picked up this 12" hand shear a couple years ago figuring I would have a use for it someday. Well..............



Mark out some lines on a piece of 16 GA.





The El'ceapo brake



Fits pretty good for the first go at it.



Weld, ground down and relocated and drill holes.



Offline 1hand

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 113
  • Country: us
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2013, 12:22:59 AM »
Made it home with my new axles. $300 for the pair.










Offline 1hand

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 113
  • Country: us
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2013, 12:24:26 AM »
I started a little bit on tearing down the front axle. I did manage to get one of the locking hubs off. Only had one cap screw that rounded out on that hub. Then I was off to town to get an axle nut socket, and then got the spindle and brakes off. I had then found I need a  Ball Joint Spanner Wrench.

I'm using info off of Mr. N's 44 page for the tear down.
 http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/Mr.N44.htm#The

I had to order from Napa  # 278-2030 and will be here tomorrow


You can see the inner ball joint preload nut here


So far about 3 hours to get one side this far






Also, today I did a little horse trading. Traded my Lincoln 185 tig for a Thermal dynamics 180 Tig/Arc and a  Hypertherm 30 Plasma cutter and bought a Lincoln 180 HD Mig. They will be coming next week. I should be set-up for the cutting and welding for the project pretty good now.

Offline vtsteam

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4862
  • Country: us
  • Republic of Vermont
    • www. sredmond.com
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2013, 09:14:25 AM »
Hey 1hand!  :beer:

That's 1 day of work?  :jaw:

I'm going to have to speak to my mechanic........
I love it when a Plan B comes together!
Steve
www.sredmond.com

Offline 1hand

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 113
  • Country: us
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2013, 10:53:47 AM »
Hey 1hand!  :beer:

That's 1 day of work?  :jaw:

I'm going to have to speak to my mechanic........

HA ha.......no, about 4 weeks

Offline Brass_Machine

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5197
  • Country: us
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2013, 02:05:43 PM »
Hey 1hand!  :beer:

That's 1 day of work?  :jaw:

I'm going to have to speak to my mechanic........

I was thinking the same thing... must have pretty long nights where ever he is!!
Science is fun.

We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.

Offline Brass_Machine

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5197
  • Country: us
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2013, 02:07:48 PM »
I started a little bit on tearing down the front axle. I did manage to get one of the locking hubs off. Only had one cap screw that rounded out on that hub. Then I was off to town to get an axle nut socket, and then got the spindle and brakes off. I had then found I need a  Ball Joint Spanner Wrench.

I'm using info off of Mr. N's 44 page for the tear down.
 http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/Mr.N44.htm#The

I had to order from Napa  # 278-2030 and will be here tomorrow

...

I have ended up needing a tool that looks a lot like that with Japanese sportbikes (headstocks ect). I ended up just buying a cheap socket about the same size and cutting some teeth in it.

Eric
Science is fun.

We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.

Offline Brass_Machine

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5197
  • Country: us
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2013, 02:33:40 PM »
What's the end goal for the Jeep? Restore to stock? Big lift and mudders? Zombie apocalypse command vehicle?

Eric
Science is fun.

We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.

Offline 1hand

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 113
  • Country: us
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2013, 04:30:48 PM »
Its a "bugout" rig. Going to lock, stretch, link, tube, 5.3L swap, and 37's it.  :bugeye:

Offline Stilldrillin

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4871
  • Country: gb
  • Staveley, Derbyshire. England.
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2013, 04:44:27 PM »
Its a "bugout" rig. Going to lock, stretch, link, tube, 5.3L swap, and 37's it.  :bugeye:

Hmmm.......

NOW, I understand the quotation...... "Two nations divided by a common language":scratch:

Dunno what you're up to. But I'm enjoying it, so far!  :thumbup:

David D
David.

Still drilling holes... Sometimes, in the right place!

Still modifying bits of metal... Occasionally, making an improvement!

Offline vtsteam

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4862
  • Country: us
  • Republic of Vermont
    • www. sredmond.com
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2013, 08:25:46 PM »
Stilldrillin, I sympathize (ise), but don't hold it against us, I don't know what the hell he's talking about either.

But I like it!
I love it when a Plan B comes together!
Steve
www.sredmond.com

Offline 1hand

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 113
  • Country: us
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2013, 09:37:27 PM »
 Bug out= get the hell out of town quick

Lock=air  lockers in the differentials to make locked up on demand

Stretch = stretch out wheelbase to help angle of approach and straighten out drive line angles

Link= getting rid of leaf springs and installing link arms with outboard coil over shocks to improve flex.

Flex= is sweeeet....lol

Tube= roll cage and external armor from tubing

5.3l swap= bitchn v8 power

37's= 37 inch tall rubber


Offline vtsteam

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4862
  • Country: us
  • Republic of Vermont
    • www. sredmond.com
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2013, 09:07:58 AM »
Ohh, click!

Bugout, now that's one I can use. Of course I'll need a snowmobile to do it!
I love it when a Plan B comes together!
Steve
www.sredmond.com

Offline garym

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 119
  • Country: gb
  • Manchester, England
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2013, 05:11:43 PM »
I think 'Bugout' is a term popular among the survivalist and prepper communities in America. They like to be prepared for disaster in whatever form (extreme weather, civil unrest etc.) so have equipment ready so they can just drop what they are doing and leave town quickly. I'm sure 1hand will put me right if necessary.

Gary
Workshop activity resumes now ankle improving :-)

Offline 1hand

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 113
  • Country: us
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2013, 07:48:51 PM »
I think 'Bugout' is a term popular among the survivalist and prepper communities in America. They like to be prepared for disaster in whatever form (extreme weather, civil unrest etc.) so have equipment ready so they can just drop what they are doing and leave town quickly. I'm sure 1hand will put me right if necessary.

Gary

Your right.

Not much of a prepper otherwise.

Offline vtsteam

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4862
  • Country: us
  • Republic of Vermont
    • www. sredmond.com
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2013, 08:51:38 PM »
Well 1hand, very interested to see you repairing that rusty frame. Looks like 90% of the vehicles I've owned, eventually, here in the northeastern snow country.

Also the shear -- been thinking about getting one of those for a long time. So keep up the good work! I want to see this vehicle rise up again out of the flakes, and, well, bugout!

 :mmr:
I love it when a Plan B comes together!
Steve
www.sredmond.com

Offline 1hand

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 113
  • Country: us
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2013, 09:50:51 PM »
this kind of where I'm heading with the build. Stretching from a 2 to a 4 door. Just your typical family SUV......... :headbang:

Offline Stilldrillin

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4871
  • Country: gb
  • Staveley, Derbyshire. England.
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2013, 04:50:31 AM »
Ah! Thanks for the pic. Lots of questions answered........  :thumbup:

Don't think that would fit on my drive. And, definitely not in my garage!  :palm:

Watching, appreciating, enjoying.  :wave:

David D
David.

Still drilling holes... Sometimes, in the right place!

Still modifying bits of metal... Occasionally, making an improvement!

Offline 1hand

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 113
  • Country: us
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2013, 08:29:05 PM »
It was a long afternoon, but I was able to get both knuckles off. Of course I manage to bugger up some threads in one of the upper C's. Now I need to figure out what size threads are in there, and will have to get a tap! I'm sure that will be cheap..........looks like it's bigger than 1".




Offline terrywerm

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 6
  • Country: us
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2013, 09:38:43 PM »
I've got to show this to my oldest son. He's got a Jeep just like that... including the rusty frame.  This is sure to get him drooling all over the place.   :drool:
Terry

Making chips with old machines

Offline Powder Keg

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 933
  • Country: us
  • Machinist Extraordinaire
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2013, 10:14:36 PM »
Looks like a fun project for sure!!! I'll be watching this one:o)

~Wes~
Wesley P
A Gismo ??? If it has a flywheel or spins and is made with small parts. I'll take one! If it makes noise, moves, or requires frequent oiling and dusting it's a better deal yet. It's especially right if its shiny and bright; but if it's dirty and dull it wont mater at all...

Offline Brass_Machine

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5197
  • Country: us
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2013, 12:24:18 AM »
Bug out= get the hell out of town quick

...

So zombie apocalypse command vehicle then....

 :lol:


Love it
Science is fun.

We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.

Offline 1hand

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 113
  • Country: us
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2013, 09:14:57 PM »
I'm glad you guys find some interest in this, thanks for tagging along. :mmr:

I figured out the thread size of the upper C's, its 1 1/8-12. I might try slotting a bolt and thread it up from the bottom to try and clean up them top threads. If that doesn't work, I guess I will have to try and find a used tap on fleebay.

The first of the 3 new toys showed up today.




I got my old tig ready for the trade in tomorrow.


I'm keeping my old cart that was homemade. I'm going to convert it to hold 2 tanks, the new mig, and the new plasma and new tig thats coming tomorrow.


Offline Powder Keg

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 933
  • Country: us
  • Machinist Extraordinaire
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2013, 11:16:59 PM »
I might have one you could borrow? Double check the size and I'll check. I'll just mail it to you. When your done, send it back:o)

~Wes~
Wesley P
A Gismo ??? If it has a flywheel or spins and is made with small parts. I'll take one! If it makes noise, moves, or requires frequent oiling and dusting it's a better deal yet. It's especially right if its shiny and bright; but if it's dirty and dull it wont mater at all...

Offline vtsteam

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4862
  • Country: us
  • Republic of Vermont
    • www. sredmond.com
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2013, 11:28:07 PM »
Bugout apocalyptic thread chaser:

Cheap threaded rod:

http://www.zorotools.com/g/00093448/k-G3582275

Simple case hardening suggestion:

Quote
Heat the part to cherry red with an oxy-acetelene torch and hold it there for a minute. Then turn off the oxygen and coat the part with acetelene soot. Turn the oxygen back on and reheat the part to cherry red and hold for a minute, then turn off the oxygen and coat the part again. Repeat the process three times and quench quickly after the last heating. A rapid quench is critical so use a large container of cold water and swish the part around to avoid local heating of the water.

How to make a quick tap:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgAIgSvzitE

No guarantees, also there are better ways to do it: drill rod, turn threads on lathe, harden and temper, grind futes properly, etc. But drill rod alone for 1.25 dia is 40 bucks w/out shipping. The above might be worth a try.

EDIT: PowderKeg's post came in  first -- much better idea!  :mmr:
I love it when a Plan B comes together!
Steve
www.sredmond.com

Offline 1hand

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 113
  • Country: us
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2013, 10:53:13 PM »
Thanks guys, I will see what I can come up with here.

Worked on remodeling the old weld cart tonight, to fit 3 machines and 2 tanks.











Thats it for today. Tomorrow I will make a extension cord with 3 outlet plug-in bank, on board air line, cord holders, and tig filler rod holders.

Offline 1hand

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 113
  • Country: us
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2013, 05:40:34 PM »
I hate working with 10ga wire with only 1 hand



Now I have one cord to anywhere in the garage and use any of the 3 machines with just a flip of a switch.





All self contained now.


Offline vtsteam

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4862
  • Country: us
  • Republic of Vermont
    • www. sredmond.com
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2013, 07:28:29 PM »
Cool!  :clap:
I love it when a Plan B comes together!
Steve
www.sredmond.com

Offline Stilldrillin

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4871
  • Country: gb
  • Staveley, Derbyshire. England.
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2013, 03:12:20 AM »
Nice/ neatly done!  :clap: :clap:

David D
David.

Still drilling holes... Sometimes, in the right place!

Still modifying bits of metal... Occasionally, making an improvement!

Offline 1hand

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 113
  • Country: us
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2013, 06:33:12 PM »
The Easter Bunny Showed up early!




About impossible to find anything made 100% in the USA, but this is the best I could do.


Now to wire the little feller up.

Offline Powder Keg

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 933
  • Country: us
  • Machinist Extraordinaire
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2013, 11:48:32 PM »
Did you find a tap? I think I have one you could borrow.

~Wes~
Wesley P
A Gismo ??? If it has a flywheel or spins and is made with small parts. I'll take one! If it makes noise, moves, or requires frequent oiling and dusting it's a better deal yet. It's especially right if its shiny and bright; but if it's dirty and dull it wont mater at all...

Offline AussieJimG

  • In Memoriam
  • Sr. Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 381
  • Country: au
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2013, 06:41:52 AM »
Love that welding cart, it's a beauty!

Jim

Offline 1hand

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 113
  • Country: us
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2013, 10:13:44 AM »
Did you find a tap? I think I have one you could borrow.

~Wes~

Not yet.  I checked the inserts with a nut and they are 1 1/8-12 for sure.

Offline 1hand

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 113
  • Country: us
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2013, 10:15:35 AM »
Love that welding cart, it's a beauty!

Jim

Thanks Jim, I really like the way it turned out also. :zap:

Offline Brass_Machine

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5197
  • Country: us
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2013, 12:48:09 PM »
I agree. The cart turned out nice.

Eric
Science is fun.

We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.

Offline Hyper

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 27
  • Country: us
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #38 on: May 04, 2013, 07:54:11 PM »
Need some details on the new TIG and plasma.  Those are 2 things I'm desperately in need of.  Looking forward to seeing the Jeep come together.  My father in law has a 99 with 160k but in great shape.  I'm plotting to talk him into an LS swap when the 6 finally kicks it.  I love driving it but it really needs another 200hp :)
I'm not saying I'm Batman. I'm just saying we've never been seen in the same room before.

Offline Scuba1

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 251
  • Country: us
Re: Project "Bugout"
« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2014, 04:19:04 PM »
Soooo how far has it come ........ I would love a jeep as a runabout
Skype: scuba-1