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Title: Turning Ball Knobs on A Mill
Post by: 75Plus on October 24, 2009, 05:06:28 PM
As I stated in my introductory post I wanted to explore the possibility of using my X-2 mill to turn ball knobs. This thread is a report on my findings.

The first thing I did was make a ball turner similar to the ones found on this forum. I then mounted it on a piece of heavy, 1/2", angle iron that I had on hand. What I have now I consider a prototype. It works well with wood, which I intended it for, but is prone to chatter badly with brass or aluminum. Here is what it looks like:

(http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad289/AlveyJoe/100_2182.jpg)

(http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad289/AlveyJoe/100_2184.jpg)

I found out after I had completed assembling the turner that some changes had to be made. First there was on room to operate a control lever that was in the conventional location. The control point had to be moved to the base of the main body. Since I was stuck with the short spigot I drilled and tapped the retaining nut and put in a soft pointed, long, grub screw. I was able to slip a piece of brass tube over the grub and it operated the turner smoothly. A bonus feature is that your hand is safely away from the spinning parts.

Now I will try to explain my how I completed the project. I started with a piece of 1 1/4" dowel rod 3 1/2" long in my lathe.

(http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad289/AlveyJoe/100_2172.jpg)

I turned 2 1/4" of it down to fit in a 3/4" R-8 collet.

(http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad289/AlveyJoe/100_2173.jpg)

After that was done I went to the mill to see if my idea really worked.

(http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad289/AlveyJoe/100_2177.jpg)

It DID!!

(http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad289/AlveyJoe/100_2179.jpg)

I took the blank back to the lathe for sanding and drilling the hole to make it into a knob. I did not make pictures of that operation but this is where it ended up. The contraption it is on is a tool to service the mainsprings in old, and some new, 8 day, wind up clocks. These springs can be difficult to work with without special tools.

(http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad289/AlveyJoe/100_2170.jpg)

What do you think? I know the entire project could be done on a lathe but then I would not know if it could be done on a mill.

And... did I post enough pictures? 
Joe
Title: Re: Turning Ball Knobs on A Mill
Post by: bogstandard on October 24, 2009, 05:14:05 PM
Joe,

As far as I am concerned, you have done a great job there.

If you don't want to do it on a lathe, try something else, and you have come up with your own solution that works great.

A very nice post indeed. Informative with a good explanation and piccies.


Bogs
Title: Re: Turning Ball Knobs on A Mill
Post by: sbwhart on October 24, 2009, 05:21:01 PM
hi Joe

A nice bit of thinking out of the box, just goes to show what you can do with a little bit of imagination, lovely work  :thumbup:

Thanks for showing and sharing

 :beer:
Stew
Title: Re: Turning Ball Knobs on A Mill
Post by: dsquire on October 24, 2009, 05:37:40 PM
Joe

Great job with that ball turner. Nice also to see it done on the mill. I like your tool to service the mainsprings. It goes to show that some good tools can be built out of wood and be quite serviceable. The pictures are great. :ddb: :ddb:

cheers  :beer:

Don
Title: Re: Turning Ball Knobs on A Mill
Post by: Baldrocker on October 24, 2009, 07:05:32 PM
Joe.
What a great combination of wood and metal your special tool is.  :clap:
Like the idea of the ball turner too.
BR
Title: Re: Turning Ball Knobs on A Mill
Post by: tinkerer on October 24, 2009, 07:38:15 PM
Very good job of describing what you wanted and depicting the steps to get there. Way to go. Someone had asked about a spring winder not long ago. Maybe a different kind of spring though.
Title: Re: Turning Ball Knobs on A Mill
Post by: tumutbound on October 24, 2009, 09:32:23 PM
Was it just me that couldn't see any pictures ??
Title: Re: Turning Ball Knobs on A Mill
Post by: ChooChooMike on October 25, 2009, 12:09:51 AM
I can't see the pictures either :(

Hmmmmm, the HTML <img> tags ARE present in the source code, but the images aren't showing up for me here.

Mike
Title: Re: Turning Ball Knobs on A Mill
Post by: tumutbound on October 25, 2009, 12:56:03 AM
The URLs (photobucket)  in IMG tags work OK if I cut and paste.
Title: Re: Turning Ball Knobs on A Mill
Post by: dsquire on October 25, 2009, 12:57:50 AM
tumutbound and  ChooChooMike

The pictures are working ok for me now and they were ok several hours ago when I first read the post. Don't know what else to say.  :(

Cheers  :beer:

Don
Title: Re: Turning Ball Knobs on A Mill
Post by: Gerhard Olivier on October 25, 2009, 04:23:27 AM
Neat idea and a very nice wood and metal tool (even MRS sayd its gorgeous)

Gerhard
Title: Re: Turning Ball Knobs on A Mill
Post by: jim on October 25, 2009, 04:40:35 AM
i like it :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Turning Ball Knobs on A Mill
Post by: Stilldrillin on October 25, 2009, 05:49:03 AM
Proves there`s more`n one way a skinnin a cat!  :thumbup:

Well done Joe!   :clap:

David D
Title: Re: Turning Ball Knobs on A Mill
Post by: tumutbound on October 25, 2009, 07:59:48 AM
tumutbound and  ChooChooMike

The pictures are working ok for me now and they were ok several hours ago when I first read the post. Don't know what else to say.  :(

Cheers  :beer:

Don

Pictures worked OK with Opera browser but not Firefox
??
Title: Re: Turning Ball Knobs on A Mill
Post by: Darren on October 25, 2009, 08:07:55 AM
Pictures work fine for me in Firefox in both Vista and Linux ...  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Turning Ball Knobs on A Mill
Post by: 75Plus on October 25, 2009, 11:18:45 AM
Thanks, guys, for the kind comments.

Another reason I wanted to use the mill for turning wood was the need for speed. The max I can run the lathe is 1550 RPM which is slow for wood. Having my hand near that 6" chuck spinning at that speed causes a bit of concern. I can run the mill at 2500 with no concerns.

Joe
Title: Re: Turning Ball Knobs on A Mill
Post by: CrewCab on October 25, 2009, 04:00:41 PM
Nice Work  :dremel:

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