MadModder
The Shop => Our Shop => Topic started by: spuddevans on February 08, 2013, 03:58:22 PM
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So after moving house and being without a
place to play workshop, a few weeks ago I made a start on my new workshop.
I have settled on a timber frame structure, 16ft x 10ft and the roof peaks about 9ft height. The plan was to make the front, back and 2 side panels, and the roof trusses, and then assemble them all at once, but having made the front and back walls, and realised the weight of them, I have changed the side walls to be in 2 parts.
The area where it will be is already concreted (rather roughly, so I will be putting in a shallow screed to level it up)
Construction is taking a while to get done as the weather gets in the way a bit at this time of the year, but starting about 3 weeks ago I have made the front and rear panels, and today I made the 1st of 4 side panels as pictured below. As you can see I am just stacking all the panels on the flat, they are sitting exactly where the new workshop will stand, the front of it will be flush with an existing garden shed.
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-sVNjw6f/0/L/2013-02-08%2015.50.27-L.jpg)
Construction is a simple frame of 72x36mm studwork, 600mm centres, sheathed with 22mm OSB, then coated with a weatherproof sealant. The plan is to cover over the OSB with timber cladding later in the year.
Roof will be corrugated steel. Insulation will be some kingspan-type insulation for the roof, and most likely fiberglass-type in the walls.
For kitting out the workshop, my parents recently had a new kitchen installed, so guess who got the old one?? Yup, I'm even going to have a hob and dual oven and a sink!!! And it's all solid oak doors. I'm gonna have a real posh workshop (actually my wife is a bit jealous as there'll be a better oven and kitchen in my workshop than in the house :lol: )
So that's where I am at the moment, updates will come, but are quite dependant on the weather, so don't hold your breath.
Tim
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Tim
Looks like you have a good start made. Just keep at it a bit each day and it will all come together for you. The cupboards will be a nice added touch. :D :) :D
At least if SWMBO sends you to the dog house you can go in style. Just keep a couple cans of beans or stew in the cupboard just in case. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Cheers :beer:
Don
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I know you have been waiting awhile to get this going!
What do you plan on using the oven for? I have a full sized range in the garage (waiting for a new shop as well) that I used for power coating.
Eric
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What do you plan on using the oven for?
To be honest, I'm not sure :scratch: it's a double oven as well. Maybe powder coating, for heating items for shrink fitting :scratch:
I'm sure I'll find something, even if it only is for cooking chicken before bbq-ing it!!
Tim
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So the weather has been kind to me this week, and having had some time to spare I have managed to make the rest of the side panels.
Here's an "in-progress" pic (I kept getting carried away building and forgetting to take pics)
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-V2sPH6k/0/L/2013-02-19%2015.59.10-L.jpg)
These are pretty simple and quick to make, I just cut the top and bottom pieces to length, then the 5 "Top-to-Bottom" pieces (technical term there)
Then with my brothers trusty pneumatic framing nailer (POWER!!!!) it takes a few seconds to fix all the bits together.
I also staple on some damp proof membrane to the bottom edge.
Then I cut down the OSB sheet to length (2 sheets per side section), then align the 1st sheet at one corner, fix with a screw, align another corner of sheet to frame, fix with another screw, then when you align the middle edges/corners with the frame it pulls the frame into square.
From cutting, nailing, cutting OSB and screwing it down, and then nailing the sheet every 12", and finally painting on some weatherproofing stuff, it all takes about 1.5-2hrs.
Then having an hour left of usable daylight, I made up 3 roof trusses.
So now I have a stack of workshop bits, and just need to make up another 4 roof trusses before assembly can take place..
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-RxSX8pv/0/L/2013-02-19%2017.23.34-L.jpg)
So that's as far as I am up to, stay tuned for irregular updates.
Tim
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I got a little more done, finished all the trusses, and as the weather has been so good this week I started assembling all the bits together.
After a couple of hours sweating (and a little work too) I got the walls up. Then my dad came round and we got the trusses installed and then got almost one side of the roof attached.
I got it all squared and levelled up, just got to mix a little cement fill all the gaps between the shed and the (very uneven) concrete base.
Anyway, here's a couple of photos of where I'm up to.
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-s3PkDR3/0/L/2013-02-28%2009.38.48-L.jpg)
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-V2d3ZJc/0/L/2013-02-28%2009.38.58-L.jpg)
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-hwTcDcN/0/L/2013-02-28%2009.39.28-L.jpg)
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-4ptxzS8/0/L/2013-02-28%2009.39.57-L.jpg)
Tim
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Its looking good Tim! Don't worry about the uneven floor... The floor on my garage is about the same!
Eric
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Does that concrete floor have a damp proof membrane in it ?
Dave.
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Does that concrete floor have a damp proof membrane in it ?
Dave.
No it doesn't, or at least not to my knowledge. But the plan is to put a damp proof membrane in as I have to install a cement screed to level up the floor inside (about 1" to 2", 3" in one corner) so I'll put a DPC inbetween.
I've also put some DPC on the under side of the side walls which wraps round to form a "U" channel.
That should keep the damp at bay. (Hopefully :bugeye: )
Tim
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Wow good progress Tim, coming along nicely!
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Hi there, Tim,
It's looking good and I'm quite envious if your enormous 16' x 10' floor-plan.
I've got a couple of questions, though:
Do you intend that the OSB will be the final external surface of the walls or are you going to apply something else?
The space between your shop and the adjacent garage looks a bit narrow - how will you get in there for maintenance?
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Thanks guys :thumbup:
Hi there, Tim,
It's looking good and I'm quite envious if your enormous 16' x 10' floor-plan.
I've got a couple of questions, though:
Do you intend that the OSB will be the final external surface of the walls or are you going to apply something else?
The space between your shop and the adjacent garage looks a bit narrow - how will you get in there for maintenance?
The OSB is just the initial surface, I will be cladding the outside with wood reclaimed from some fence panels ( I have enough at the moment to cover the areas where the weather hits the worst, the rest will be done in the summer.)
Yea that space is pretty tight, but I had to keep it that close in order to have enough space on the other side to cut the neighbours hedge (cos he wont bother )
There is just enough space to use a 9" roller to cover the OSB with preservative/paint. That should be enough as I will be covering over the top of that gap, thereby closing off that area from the weather.
Well at least that's the plan :coffee: we'll see how it plays out...
In the meantime I have got the other side of the roof covered with Tin, just the ridge pieces left to finish the roof, hopefully get that done tomorrow (got the morning off), then I have to fill in the gaps between the walls and the concrete, put some guttering and downspouts up, and that should get it weatherproof (apart from the big hole waiting to be filled by the door, currently sitting at the most inaccessible point in my dad's garage)
Tim
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Are you going to do rafter type storage?
Eric
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Tim a good hedge trimmer is glysulphate (round up) saves you and the neighbour trimming the hedge ever again :clap:
Pete
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Are you going to do rafter type storage?
Eric
Yes and No. The space above where the ceiling will be will be only about 12"-14" at the peak, so instead of having the rafters on show, I'll insulate them and then insulate across the stretcher-pieces before putting up the ceiling ( plasterboard most likely )
I will have a couple of lower stretcher-pieces-of-wood which will help tie the middle of the long walls together, plus will allow for some rafter-type-storage, and also allow me to put some power outlets there too for power-access in the middle of the workshop without trailing leads from the sides.
Tim a good hedge trimmer is glysulphate (round up) saves you and the neighbour trimming the hedge ever again :clap:
Pete
True, true, but apart from never trimming his hedge, he's a good enough neighbour, we never hear a peep out of him at any time. It's only the occasional muffled bark from his dog that tells us that there is someone living there. So I'm inclined to just hack down the bit of his hedge that overhangs my fence when I'm cutting my own hedge (on the other side of my garden), takes just a few mins extra.
If we have to replace any of our fence panels I will take the opportunity to cut his hedge back further ( I think it has gradually encroached onto our plot over the years), but until then I wont do anything drastic.
Tim
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So I got some more done today. My dad came round and gave me a hand.
We were working on the ridge, but the local builders merchants do not stock the ridge pieces ( they stock the main roofing sheets but not the ridge, wierd ) so what is a Madmodder to do ???
Make your own ridge pieces, that's what!!
We got a 8x4 sheet of galvanised steel, had at it with an angle grinder and cut it into 18"x 4ft strips. Not having a 4foot bending metal brake we fashioned a suitable implement out of the brown stuff.
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-8J4scQt/0/L/2013-03-04%2011.46.16-L.jpg)
The sheet to be bent is 1st placed on the workbench (3 4" fence posts on 2 trestles) up against a stop. then a piece of OSB re-enforced with a piece of the brown stuff is clamped on top of the sheet.
Then we sandwiched 2 pieces of OSB on the steel sheet sticking out and clamped, then (Warning, highly technical terms about to be used next) we sat on the OSB sandwich, bending it as far as we could. Then we unclamped everything, reversed the steel sheet in the jig and repeated the process.
The result was that all the pieces bent up to the same angle and so then it was just a simple matter of climbing onto the roof and drilling and nailing the ridge-sheets down.
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-HnnjKtG/0/L/2013-03-04%2012.42.17-L.jpg)
We ran a little short of nails, so we only nailed each end of the ridge sheets, my dad's since found another bag of the nails at his house, so we'll add some more nails.
Next will be some guttering, and filling in the gaps between the walls and floor.
Thanks for watching,
Tim
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The next update:
So I have been chipping away at the workshop, got the guttering installed, the rest of the nails installed to hold the ridge securely, filled the various gaps between the (as-smooth-as-the-sea) concrete slab and the walls with some cement.
Today I have installed a large piece of wood-and-glass into the big hole in the front gable
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-xmVpxPt/0/L/2013-03-11%2016.53.52-L.jpg)
And then my dad arrived with some plasterboard so we set to insulating and then sheeting one of the long walls
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-nDTj9Xk/0/L/2013-03-11%2016.53.30-L.jpg)
I was amazed that even with just one wall insulated and a door loosely fitted (gaps all round it as I have yet to fit any draught-excluding door jams/architrave, or even a latch/lock) the place warmed up and there was much less sound from outside.
I can't wait to get the rest of the walls insulated and sheeted, then the ceiling done, then it'll be just a few steps away from being inhabited by my tools and machines.
Thanks for watching,
Tim
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"I can't wait to get the rest of the walls insulated and sheeted, then the ceiling done, then it'll be just a few steps away from being inhabited by my tools and machines."
It's about then that you decide you want a bigger one .......
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It's about then that you decide you want a bigger one .......
:doh: :doh: :doh:
Aint that always the way...
Hopefully this will be big enough for me, it is about 3-4 times bigger than my last one.
Tim
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Looking good Tim. I bet you are itching to get in there!
Eric
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We've been working away on insulating and plasterboarding, got all the walls insulated and covered, and as pictured below we've got the ceiling insulated, now completely insulated with between 2" and 60mm of kingspan insulation. The reason for the 2 different thicknesses is because that is what I was able to get off my brother who had some left over from building his house.
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-Mk2CV8j/0/L/2013-03-20%2010.16.43-L.jpg)
Following that picture I finished off the insulation, then taped all the joints to seal any air leaks ( I believe that the efficiency of this type of insulation depends on an air-tight fit )
Then my dad and I cut and fixed 2 sheets of plasterboard to the ceiling, they were the hardest as they were as-good-as full sheets, the rest will be about half-sheets, so much easier to handle.
The drop in noise from the outside is great, much reduced!
The next session should see the rest of the ceiling boarded, then it'll be taping the joints and then covering with compound.
Tim
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Are you going to heat/cool it?
Eric
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Tim.
In a word....... Snug! :thumbup:
David D
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good going you are way ahead of me.
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Are you going to heat/cool it?
Eric
There's not much call for cooling in Ireland, :palm: but yea I will be heating it, probably just an oil-filled radiator on a thermostat to keep the temperature around 10-12C to keep the damp/rust away without costing too much, then when I'm working in the workshop I'll raise the temp a few degrees to make it comfortable.
Tim.
In a word....... Snug! :thumbup:
David D
That's what I'm going for :thumbup: :thumbup:
good going you are way ahead of me.
Just keep plugging away at it, you're getting there too :beer:
Tim
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Makes sense. I have a timer / thermostat on mine set to 7.5 Deg C at night & 17.5 during the day, but tend actually to leave it on night setting unless I'm actually in there or it burns too much oil (it's an air blown wet c/h system with a 'system' boiler)
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I have two small oil filled rad's in my garage conversion, therm'controlled, one at either end & they are just the job, with the insulated walls & roofing it stays at around 4-6 deg' C when the outside temp has dropped to below 0*, keeps the rust at bay :thumbup: I usually tweak them up to get the temp up to 10 -12 'C so it's nice & cosy at the mo' but usually end up switching them off after about an hour as the residual heat is more than enough for a couple of hrs, well worth the money :thumbup: haven't left them on overnight, as yet have to find the temp dropping lower than 4*C :clap: . Looks like yours is going to be a super workshop :headbang:
Cheers
George
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Another little update:
We've managed to get all the plasterboard fixed, joints scrimmed and then compound applied twice and then sanded.
Result:-
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-RNtw42j/0/L/2013-04-01%2009.43.57-L.jpg)
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-hPGLkXP/0/L/2013-04-01%2009.44.27-L.jpg)
As this is just a workshop I am not going to go overboard on the joints, they are covered and while not up to a standard for my house, the fact is that most of the walls will be covered up with shelves and cupboards ( and eventually swarf and oil )
Then today we managed to nail up the 1st coat of paint. It's a bit rough looking, but the 2nd coat will smooth that out.
Then we'll be putting in some of the electrics.
Not much to report really, progress is slow but steady.
Tim
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Another little update:
We've managed to get all the plasterboard fixed, joints scrimmed and then compound applied twice and then sanded.
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Then today we managed to nail up the 1st coat of paint. It's a bit rough looking, but the 2nd coat will smooth that out.
Then we'll be putting in some of the electrics.
Not much to report really, progress is slow but steady.
Tim
Looks like the shed is comeing along nicely. A lot of work but will all be worth it in the end.
Sounds interesting that new paint. What kind of nails do you use to fasten it down with? :lol: :lol:
Cheers :beer:
Don
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Sounds interesting that new paint. What kind of nails do you use to fasten it down with? :lol: :lol:
Flat head ..... Very wide flathead :lol: :lol: And wear eye-protection, the paint tends to splatter a little :D
Tim
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Hi Tim
I never did like painting but thought that your method might be OK. Looks like it might work good but cleanup will be a beach. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Cheers :beer:
Don
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Looks like it might work good but cleanup will be a beach. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Tell me about it, but at least it wasn't as bad as the time I used my air-nailer :palm:
Tim
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Nice job Tim!
I am a bit jealous!
Eric
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Another little update:
I got the second coat of paint nailed up, looks a bit more consistent now.
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-tHnjhLQ/0/L/2013-04-03%2015.27.57-L.jpg)
My dad also brought round 2 sheets of 6mm ply (Actually not quite full sheets, about 7x4 ft each) Which we screwed up onto one wall along the top, it will be great for hanging tools and little shelves wherever I want.
Gave it one coat of paint,
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-bHXgSQr/0/L/2013-04-03%2015.27.36-L.jpg)
And then after a few hours, another coat,
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-XBL9Vz2/0/L/2013-04-03%2017.29.55-L.jpg)
My dad also brought round a few fluorescent light fittings, they may or may not work, so I gotta test them before putting them up. Hope to put the lights up on Friday afternoon, then will be clearing out everything from the workshop at the weekend, another friend is coming round on early next week to install the floor screed to level up the floor.
That's the plan anyway.
Onwards and sideways,
Tim
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Looks great Tim. Looking forward to you getting back on with posting some interesting projects. Looks a nice workshop.
Chris
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Thanks for watching along guys.
Another little update:
I've turned to some of the electrics, now that the paint is dry I can put up some lights, so I did
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-qmnc7Tf/0/L/2013-04-05%2020.25.33-L.jpg)
From the other end
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-fv4KK7Z/0/L/2013-04-05%2020.26.06-L.jpg)
A couple of them need the ballast replacing, got 3 electronic ballasts on the way so when they arrive I think that I'll be getting a tan while in the workshop.
I also installed my little consumer unit and temporarily wired up half of it to operate the lights.
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-F3VjDNx/0/L/2013-04-05%2020.26.17-L.jpg)
That white flex coming out from the lower left of the consumer unit is just the temp incoming supply, I have yet to run the permanent supply out.
Next I have to clear out everything to make way for laying the floor screed on monday.
Onwards and Sideways
Tim
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Wow this is coming on so fast; looking forward to seeing you move the tools in!
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Can there be any more sad a sight than a workshop filled with nothingness ????
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-TL7jMZw/0/L/2013-04-07%2016.34.13-L.jpg)
That's it ready for the cement screed which will hopefully go in tomorrow, the OSB boards are just there to protect the DPC from getting tore up with the wheeling of cement in.
It's getting closer to having workshop-type-furniture installed
Tim
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Awesome Tim. That is coming along quite nicely!
Eric
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"Sad sight" ......... Yer what???? :bugeye:
Tim. I'm seeing tremendous potential, and future comfort and happiness! :headbang:
Hope it develops into all you hope for it...... :thumbup:
David D
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looking cool :thumbup:
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Little Update:
Got the floor screed down yesterday, it took 1.25 tonnes of cement (all shovelled by yours truly)
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-58rx74X/0/L/2013-04-09%2007.40.58-L.jpg)
Now gotta wait for a week for it to harden enough to walk on. But I might find a couple of things to do around the outside.
Tim
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:bugeye: Christ if it took 1.25 tonnes of cement how much ballast did it take for to make the concrete :lol:
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:bugeye: Christ if it took 1.25 tonnes of cement how much ballast did it take for to make the concrete :lol:
You wouldn't believe it!!!
It was just sand and cement, no aggregate. Just a plain cement screed on this one, thickness between 2" and 4" to level it all up.
Tim
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Looking Good Tim :thumbup: :clap: .........You will sleep well tonight :)
Cheers Mick
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Good job Tim :thumbup:
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In regards to the electrics, I put one group on a switch by the door that switches that group on and off. This way I am sure that everything is switched off before I go up.
Then around the workshop I drop two double sockets, the left ones are switched with the main switch, the others are on permanent. This way I can decide to leave things on or centrally switched off.
The centrally switched sockets run my lathe, mill, grinding and sanding, but it also includes the compressor, my music and fan extractor in the back for clearing the welding smoke. It works like a charm.
I like the look of your place, it looks like a great place to work. Your floor is definitely a lot better than mine is, it looks so smooth and level. Wow, great job.
Lykle
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Thanks guys :thumbup:
In regards to the electrics, I put one group on a switch by the door that switches that group on and off. This way I am sure that everything is switched off before I go up.
Then around the workshop I drop two double sockets, the left ones are switched with the main switch, the others are on permanent. This way I can decide to leave things on or centrally switched off.
The centrally switched sockets run my lathe, mill, grinding and sanding, but it also includes the compressor, my music and fan extractor in the back for clearing the welding smoke. It works like a charm.
Great minds think alike, I too am planning to have a master switch next to the door for most of the sockets while keeping just a few unswitched (by the master)
Seems like it will be a good system, your experience makes me think so.
Tim
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Also I have found it wise (donīt ask me how I know :palm: ) to separate socket groups from lighting groups. It is so annoying when the shop goes black when at machine has blow a fuse.
BR
/Peter
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Hi Tim,
This a great space and looking fine, you will lose all sense of time when building your projects, especially with your favourate radio programmes, and heater. Like you when I built my workshop I planned for all my electrical sockets plus a contingency factor. Ten years later I need more than double the originally installed, and it is not easy doing retro fits when you have more machinery and storage. I believe you will fill every available space eventually. If I where in your shoes I would double the amount of sockets you need now. I have at least six sockets that have short trailing leads with four socket outlets.
Job Well Done Enjoy Cheers David
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:wave:
Meldonmech/Tim
Snap: have the same scenario, originally installed separate lighting circuit & power circuit, lighting switched by a switch next to the back door, power via a DB. Have 5 double sockets on original ring (10 sockets), now have 2 extension leads with 4 sockets & 1 with 2 sockets fitted alongside.. another 10 outlets available :zap:, just seem to be looking for that extra, nearest socket to plug something into :scratch: can only concur with Meldonmech, run a ring main around your shop & fit as many sockets as the loading specs will allow.
Looking good cheers, George
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Hi guys :wave: Sorry been busy so no updates except to tell you that I've had a dehumidifier running 24/7 for the last 8 days, managed to extract about 80 litres of water :bugeye:
Today I've found that the dehumidifier is not really sucking much out now, so I guess that it must be pretty much dried out.
Regarding the power socket/outlets situation, I have got 10 or 12 (cant remember :scratch: ) double sockets (left over from when I was intending to replace all the sockets in my previous house but never got around to it) so the plan is to put 4 spaced down each side and put 2 on each gable wall (if I have enough). My dad also has given me some double sockets he had. I also plan to put a couple on the centre of the exposed stretcher beam/joist-type boards so that I have sockets in the centre of the workshop too.
I probably will still need some 4 way extensions :doh: Especially for the Pc/monitor/CNC driver/mill arrangement, all 4 are switched on and off together.
And local regs mean that separating Lights and sockets is the only way to go :thumbup:
Tim
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When I laid out my (admittedly quite large at 40' square) workshop I ran box trunking all the way round, and double 13a sockets at 1 metre intervals on all walls in two rings. Friends thought I was mad putting in so many, but believe me it has proved very useful as things move around, or I'm setting something up temporarily.
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And local regs mean that separating Lights and sockets is the only way to go :thumbup:
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If there is three phase available I would some lights on different phases. Once all my lights on the garage were all connected into one phase and circular saw on the other phase.....after two hours of work vacum cleaner kicked in automatically when I startted saw once more and middle of a plank all lights went off and vacum silent, but saw was workkin happily on a different phase. I froze and it took few seconds to deside what to do...Apparently one phase got overloaded (hotwater boiler, stove or a whole kitchen aplliances connected on at once :lol:) and the main fuse blew!
PekkaNF
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If you're using an RCD (aka ELCB, GFCI for our American friends), split the lighting off *before* it, too, otherwise an earth fault can leave you in the dark while a machine spins down...
I went a bit OTT with my shed, teed off the incoming at the meter then through a 63-amp MCB, followed by a 100mA time-delay RCD at the house end, 10mm armoured cable up the garden to a metal-clad consumer unit with.100a switch, 6a MCB for lighting then 30mA RCD feeding MCBs for ringmain, welder, other shed, lathe and the sockets on the patio (a while I was there 'honeydo'...)
I fitted about a dozen double sockets, still wasn't enough...
Dave H. (the.other one)
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Little update:
For over a week I have ran my dehumidifier and have extracted an estimated 80-100 litres :bugeye:
Then today I got the lend of my brothers trailer and brought over all the kitchen cabinets stored in my dad's garage. It took only two trips, and now I am faced with the age-old game of "Kitchen-Cabinet" Tetris.
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-DNqKJBv/0/L/20130429_173713-L.jpg)
Suddenly I feel the need for a bigger workshop :doh:
Stay tuned for In-Game pictures over the next week !!
Tim
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good god you certainly got rid of that space effectively.
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So the "Tetris" game began today.
The 1st pieces,
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-vVQk8QV/0/L/20130501_094657-L.jpg)
Then,
http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-hqgtKnr/0/L/20130501_102207-L.jpg
And then the problem of trying to hold up a heavy upper cabinet while drilling/screwing it to the wall while on your own.
A simple solution occurred to me,
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-FZ6J6Z8/0/L/20130501_110751-L.jpg)
You might notice the red laser lines marking where to screw the cabinets to the wall (the next best thing to X-ray vision)
The big hole in front of the jack is for a sink, oh yes, I even brought the kitchen sink :lol:
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-fx8HjNQ/0/L/20130501_115752-L.jpg)
And ended up with this at the end of today's work,
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-K2bzc99/0/L/20130501_162852-L.jpg)
You can see the 5 double electric sockets down the left hand side, and the hole in the worktop for the electric hob ( on the right of the double oven )
Next will be some more wiring, and I need to build a bench on the right side of the workshop for my mill and lathe.
Thanks for watching
Tim
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I'm confused. This started off as workshop, but with double oven already fitted and hob and sink apparently ready to go in, it is beginning to look rather like a kitchen.
You aren't banishing SWMBO to the shed, are you, while taking over the old kitchen as yoiur workshop?
Andy
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I'm with Andy....... :thumbup:
It's a much better kitchen than our real one! :scratch:
David D
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The wife would love that
John
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Umm , it would be too confussing for me , I would go down the garden to the workshop, then get in there , think I was in the kitchen and go back in the house thinking the workshop must be in the house :lol:
Nice job mind ......and bloody handy for a snack too :thumbup:
Cheers Mick
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Well ok I DO have a sink in my workshop, and yes I DO have a large commercial washing machine, BUT I also have some machines of the mechanical type - there'll be no room left in your's for any !!!
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Hi Guys
I think that it really is quite simple. Tim has taken up a new hobby. He has taken up baking as a hobby. Watch this space for "Spuds Bake Shop & Delie". I'm sure he will have some tasty delights. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Cheers :beer:
Don
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Are you planning to host masterchef Mr Evan's? :lol:
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You guys are not far from the truth, I do dabble a little in the kitchen, I make the best Brownies this side of the river Bann :lol:
The workshop has a better oven and much better cabinets than our present kitchen, my wife is quite jealous.
I figure that the hob can be useful for heating Alum solutions when dissolving taps, and the oven could be very useful when/if I get a powder coating system, plus for when making shrink-fits.
And the sink is needed to fill the big hole in the worktop (but I probably will plumb it in too, be useful for scraping the crud off the hands before returning to the house)
On the plus side, I've got a bit of space back now
Tim
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Suddenly the whole place looks a lot smaller. Where are you going to put your milling machine ?
Dave
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..... Where are you going to put your milling machine ? .....
Is that the Pepper Mill you're referring to ?! :dremel:
Dave M
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Suddenly the whole place looks a lot smaller. Where are you going to put your milling machine ?
I've got to build a bench for it and the mill, it will go against the wall on the right of those pictures :thumbup:
Tim
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Where are you going to put your fridge. in the empty space at the end on the left hand side of your pics? :lol: by the way where did you get all that good stuff was it from a reclaimed kitchen or did you purposely buy it? no wonder the wife is jealous :drool: looking good anyway.
George
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Where are you going to put your fridge. in the empty space at the end on the left hand side of your pics? :lol: by the way where did you get all that good stuff was it from a reclaimed kitchen or did you purposely buy it? no wonder the wife is jealous :drool: looking good anyway.
George
I don't have a spare fridge, but yea, if I had one that's where it would go :headbang:
It all came from my parents house, they had a new kitchen put in about 6-9 months ago. They gave it to me if I removed it before the fitters came for the new one. I had it ripped out in about 3hrs. Then they were extra kind in letting me store it in their garage attic (completely filled it!!)
This kitchen workshop must be 20+ years old, I remember my older brother fitting it when we were all still living at home, I could've still been at school at the time (can't remember) :scratch: But there's nothing wrong with it, all solid oak doors and drawer fronts, only one drawer needed a couple of screws to patch it up. :thumbup:
Tim
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Super parents :headbang:
That set up will last you a lifetime, home from home.. so to speak.. enjoy :ddb: looking forward to see the machines in place :thumbup:
Cheers
George
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Another step forwards...
Been busy putting in some electrical outlet sockets, and some trunking between them, and then some electric string shoved into said trunking and some sockets wired up.
I also got some of the brown stuff and fashioned it into a frame. This will then get some kitchen worktop (Currently buried under a veritable mountain of crap essential stuff, awaiting release when said mountain gets transferred into new workshop cupboards)
Pics...
Sockets down one side,
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-LN4cqN5/0/L/20130508_162710-L.jpg)
New frame/bench (there will be doors put on the front to keep out the majority of swarf),
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-jn3MPHd/0/L/20130508_162722-L.jpg)
Stay tuned for more of the same (but slightly different)
Tim
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Its coming along quite nicely Tim. I am impressed (and jealous) :ddb: :ddb:
Eric
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There's not been too much to show, but I have been beavering away plumbing in a ring mains, a whole bunch of double sockets and then installing some electric rope to feed the cooker and hob.
I also freed up 2/3rds of the worktop needed for the lathe and mill bench (the other 1/3rd is buried under boxes of workshop equipment) and attached it to the bench.
Today I installed some doors on the Lathe/Mill bench, I need to make some handles, maybe I'll pop round to my dad's and turn some on my woodturning lathe.
Here's a pic of the Mill/lathe bench.
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-6p6WJ9S/0/L/20130521_164538-L.jpg)
After hanging the doors (one still to go, but have not got a piece of tree big enough for the hole) I made a start on fitting a 5-lever deadlock to the door, got the lock fitted, now just need to fit the keeper in the frame and get a couple of handles.
Thanks for watching,
Tim
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So I've been a busy bee today, and as the big ball of fire was visible in the sky today I decided to do a little work on the outside to make it look a bit more "sheddy" (Official term)
Not wishing to waste the fence panels that got blown down a few months ago, I salvaged what I could of them just for this purpose.
I started by putting up some DPC held in place with some strips of pressure treated tree.
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-4VrdDwz/0/L/20130602_174947-L.jpg)
Then I began the tast of cutting the reclaimed fence panels to size, and air-stapling them to the strips of tree previously affixed.
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-LRKC8Lv/0/L/20130603_124746-L.jpg)
Then it was a few hours of repeating the same until I got to this stage,
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-TmSxHbB/0/L/20130603_163747-L.jpg)
It was at this point I ran out of dry weather and also ran out of fence panels in pieces.
It looks a little more rustic now, and will look a lot better when it's given a coat of fence/shed preservetive to bring the colour into uniformity.
Thanks for watching,
Tim
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I forgot to mention, I also have brought power through to the shed, as you can see the white conduit in the pics. I also pulled through 2 CAT5e cables (it was as easy pulling 2 through as it was pulling 1)
Tim
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Hi
Tim
That will blend in nicely
Is that bin in the picture the start of a furnace :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
John
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Hi
Tim
That will blend in nicely
John
My immediate thought was, camouflage...... :lol:
You've done a good job, with recycled bits of tree! :thumbup: :clap: :clap:
David D
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Looking good Tim... :thumbup:
Betcha cant wait to get in there and start making metal chips...( instead of wood ones... :D )
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Hi
Tim
That will blend in nicely
That's kinda why I did it, makes looking at it a little easier on the eyes.
Is that bin in the picture the start of a furnace :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
John
Not yet, that is our ultra-modern confidential document destroyer machine, it took over from the shredder when it bit the dust.
Thanks for the comments guys,
Tim
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I forgot to mention, I also have brought power through to the shed, as you can see the white conduit in the pics. I also pulled through 2 CAT5e cables (it was as easy pulling 2 through as it was pulling 1)
Tim
hi Tim - was screened or un-screened? you may find probs with having runs in close proximity to mains....
Dave
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hi Tim - was screened or un-screened? you may find probs with having runs in close proximity to mains....
Dave
:doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:
Unscreened.
:Doh: :Doh: :Doh: :Doh: :Doh: :Doh: :Doh: :Doh: :Doh: :Doh: :Doh: :Doh:
I hope it works out ok, they only run together for 9 meters ( he says hopefully )
Tim
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May well be OK - otherwise you can always use it as a pull-through ! :coffee:
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Well it's been a while since I updated this, I have been busy with life and other stuff :bang:
I have got a bit more done, and very excitingly, I have got the mill and lathe installed in their places and even switched them on :drool:
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-RpgtZLR/0/L/20130621_171308-L.jpg)
As you can see I even have got the PC going and the CNC working (sort of, still needs a few tweaks)
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-4W9fZKd/0/L/20130621_171319-L.jpg)
I hung the monitor on the wall, keeps it out of the way, and I also put up a shelf for the PC too
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-WM6ddrq/0/L/20130621_171323-L.jpg)
Just got to tidy up the cables a bit, and as you can see I've removed the doors off from the bench, this is in preparation for the flooring fitting next week. I also have to do a huge amount of tidying and clearing up as well.
Hopefully next week will see some vinyl flooring installed, that should make sweeping up a bit easier.
Tim
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The tools are in!!! :beer: :beer: :beer:
Eric
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I can feel the excitement from here.. :bow:
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Tim.
That looks more like home, every time I see an update. Well done! :clap: :clap:
David D
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Thanks guys, it's getting really close to making swarf now, I can almost taste the cutting fluid!!!
Tim
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Hi there, Tim,
You're making good progress, I'm envious!
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Hi Tim
Looks super :clap:; not into cnc mesel' :scratch: bit long in the tooth for it nowadays, still getting used to manual DRO's, not that I've done a lot lately, just seem to end up titivating this & that all the time :dremel:
George.
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Thanks guys :thumbup:
Hi Tim
Looks super :clap:; not into cnc mesel' :scratch: bit long in the tooth for it nowadays, still getting used to manual DRO's, not that I've done a lot lately, just seem to end up titivating this & that all the time :dremel:
George.
Actually, I mostly use it (the CNC) in a manual mode, using the DRO functions on Mach3. I think I've only ran about 4 or 5 true CNC programs. Most of the time I just manually enter the Co-ords of where I want it to go, and the feed rate. Sort of "Single Step CNC" I guess.
I got a little more done, mainly tidying up. But I also trammed the mill, and put up another shelf for Lathe/mill acc's and hung some toolholders on the wall.
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-QTZL4d3/0/XL/20130625_173011-XL.jpg)
I also discovered that one of the Stepper Motor Drivers is faulty, fortunately it is the Rotab driver, so not used so much. Got another one coming.
Tim
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Got the Vinyl flooring down, looks a lot better and much easier to sweep.
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-LDHjZnF/0/L/20130629_140524-L.jpg)
As you can see I also have got another offcut to put in front of the Lathe and Mill, hopefully to catch most of the hot swarf before it damages the main flooring. :thumbup:
I also installed a few handles on the doors of the Mill/Lathe bench.
(http://www.velvet-art.co.uk/Engineering/madmodder-stuff/i-f3NRhsX/0/L/20130629_144448-L.jpg)
Keep tuned for irregular updates,
Tim
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Mrs. Drillin wants to know, if you could do something similar with her kitchen? :lol:
Looking good Tim! :thumbup:
David D