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Title: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on August 14, 2016, 12:59:39 PM
Afternoon Lads  :wave:


I thought I would make a start fixing up my Arboga drill , its a tad worse for wear and needs some Wilson loving  :med:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Arboga%20Geared-head%20Drill/P1100838_zpsvzxoq4mb.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Arboga%20Geared-head%20Drill/P1100838_zpsvzxoq4mb.jpg.html)

She be missing a locking lever , the power-feed is shagged , feed gear box is cracked , wrong spindle speed selector lever , no on/off switch and OH its also a f*&k horrible colour  :bang:


So I stripped off the shagged parts today and decided to give her a quick rub down and paint  :dremel:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Arboga%20Geared-head%20Drill/P1120060_zpsdadyxpil.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Arboga%20Geared-head%20Drill/P1120060_zpsdadyxpil.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Arboga%20Geared-head%20Drill/P1120061_zpslrdjbqn8.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Arboga%20Geared-head%20Drill/P1120061_zpslrdjbqn8.jpg.html)

And a coat of primer .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Arboga%20Geared-head%20Drill/P1120068_zpsfjlz8x2k.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Arboga%20Geared-head%20Drill/P1120068_zpsfjlz8x2k.jpg.html)

I will give her a coat of nice Gray Enamel paint later in the week  :D


Rob

Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: krv3000 on August 14, 2016, 06:32:28 PM
good work rob
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: Manxmodder on August 14, 2016, 10:39:33 PM
I clicked this thread in anticipation......I thought you said "cheap tart".....I was close,but no cigar  :bugeye:

Coincidently,I'm tarting up one of them bandsaws I see in your shop photo...OZ
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: NeoTech on August 15, 2016, 02:37:39 AM
Oh a Swedish machine on Madmodder.. that has to be a first. =)
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on August 16, 2016, 01:02:22 PM
Cheers Bob  :thumbup:

 
I clicked this thread in anticipation......I thought you said "cheap tart".....I was close,but no cigar  :bugeye:

Coincidently,I'm tarting up one of them bandsaws I see in your shop photo...OZ

:lol: Sorry to disappoint you OZ  ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I have repairs to do to that bandsaw  as well   :palm:  , how is your saw tart up going ? 


Oh a Swedish machine on Madmodder.. that has to be a first. =)

Aye and she be a fine thing ,I am going for a European workshop  Andreas     ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I have now named her Agnetha  :loco:



Rob


 

Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: Joules on August 17, 2016, 11:45:49 AM
THE MUMMY, had a drill press   :bugeye:
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: Manxmodder on August 26, 2016, 12:06:28 PM
Cheers Bob  :thumbup:

 
I clicked this thread in anticipation......I thought you said "cheap tart".....I was close,but no cigar  :bugeye:

Coincidently,I'm tarting up one of them bandsaws I see in your shop photo...OZ

:lol: Sorry to disappoint you OZ  ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I have repairs to do to that bandsaw  as well   :palm:  , how is your saw tart up going ? 


Oh a Swedish machine on Madmodder.. that has to be a first. =)

Aye and she be a fine thing ,I am going for a European workshop  Andreas     ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I have now named her Agnetha  :loco:



Rob

:lol: Sorry to disappoint you OZ  ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I have repairs to do to that bandsaw  as well   :palm:  , how is your saw tart up going ? 


Well....I had this tin of unused primer kicking around,and now it's all very drab olive green....what on earth was I thinking about when I did that  :palm:.....OZ.
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on August 26, 2016, 12:26:04 PM
drab olive green!  WTF!  OZ ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,very 70s , bet your a British Leyland man at heart   :lol: :lol: :lol:


Rob
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: John Stevenson on August 26, 2016, 01:32:15 PM
You mean he's been on strike since the 70's ?   :drool:
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: awemawson on August 26, 2016, 01:35:02 PM
Did Red Ted paint things Olive Green  :ddb:
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: philf on August 26, 2016, 04:25:33 PM
Did Red Ted paint things Olive Green  :ddb:

"Red Ted"  :scratch:
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: John Stevenson on August 26, 2016, 04:56:18 PM
Think he means Red Robbo.
The pig sheet has been getting to him  :poke:  :lol:
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: awemawson on August 26, 2016, 05:12:19 PM
That's the one  :bang:
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: philf on August 27, 2016, 12:36:01 PM
Think he means Red Robbo.

I thought the same John!

For those who don't remember him (or are too young). Derek "Red Robbo" Robinson instigated over 500 walkouts at British Leyland between 1978 and 1979! I guess he didn't do much painting.

My lathe and mill are in RAL 6018 green and I like it.

Phil.

Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: John Stevenson on August 27, 2016, 12:43:48 PM
Pity Nike didn't have him on contract.
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: Kjelle on August 28, 2016, 05:04:50 AM
Kreml got there first....
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on August 28, 2016, 11:17:44 AM
Well at least this one is not snot green , yesterdays acquisition  :D

 
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/My%20Machinery/P1120076_zpsrjwaucge.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/My%20Machinery/P1120076_zpsrjwaucge.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/My%20Machinery/P1120077_zpsrkcjmrjd.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/My%20Machinery/P1120077_zpsrkcjmrjd.jpg.html)

Had a canny wee run up to the west coast of bonny Scotland yesterday to pick the mill up , about 3 hours from me , we went up in two vans as my mate bought a belting  Harrison M300 lathe   :dremel:

Rob
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: micktoon on August 28, 2016, 11:28:45 AM
Hi Rob, good to see you back in the shop, the Bridgeport looks canny from what can be seen, once it's had a coat of RAL 6011 green it will look even better  :drool:

 Cheers Mick
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: awemawson on August 28, 2016, 11:29:20 AM
Very nice - mid 1970's at a guess.

I hope you have a fork lift to get it out  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on August 28, 2016, 12:04:32 PM
Aye about that vintage Andrew :thumbup: , the mill and lathe where in a maintenance shop for the passed 27 years , so light use , still has scrape marks .

FLT  :scratch: ,,,,,,,,,,dont be daft !  those are for wimps and sensible folk ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I am going for man strength and an engine hoist  :dremel:


Rob

   
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: krv3000 on August 28, 2016, 03:34:17 PM
brill rob
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: John Rudd on August 29, 2016, 12:33:03 AM
So what happened to the 626 mill you were converting to cnc? :poke:
Nice acquisition the Bridgy.... :drool:
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on August 29, 2016, 02:49:35 AM
So what happened to the 626 mill you were converting to cnc? :poke:


Its still an on going project  going John  :dremel: , I would like to get back on with it lather in the year .


Rob
Title: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: John Rudd on August 29, 2016, 04:34:19 AM
Ahh...ok....thought you might be selling it on..... :)
Title: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Manxmodder on August 29, 2016, 06:52:49 AM
You mean he's been on strike since the 70's ?   :drool:
:lol: :lol: :lol: Near fell of me seat laughing.....OZ.
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: Manxmodder on August 29, 2016, 06:59:13 AM
drab olive green!  WTF!  OZ ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,very 70s , bet your a British Leyland man at heart   :lol: :lol: :lol:


Rob

I did once have Tundra green Mini van, and several more inspiringly coloured Mini pick-ups over the years.

Anyway,I've found the Land Rover Marine blue and the Massey grey paint now,so I shall make amends.....OZ
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on August 30, 2016, 02:51:53 PM


I hope you have a fork lift to get it out  :thumbup:


Walk in the park Andrew  :ddb:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/My%20Machinery/P1120087_zpstegg9quh.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/My%20Machinery/P1120087_zpstegg9quh.jpg.html)

Rob


Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: nrml on August 30, 2016, 05:31:46 PM
Doesn't the load exceed the rating for that jib position by a very significant amount? When I lifted a lathe that was a little over the rated load for that jib position on a two tonne hoist it didn't look happy at all and it kept trying to tip forwards. I am impressed if you managed that with just one helper.
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on August 31, 2016, 02:33:40 AM
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Doesn't the load exceed the rating for that jib position by a very significant amount?

It does by a couple of hundred Kg's , but it lifted it with ease .


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When I lifted a lathe that was a little over the rated load for that jib position on a two tonne hoist it didn't look happy at all and it kept trying to tip forwards.

If it was trying to tip forward  then the load was incorrectly slung , load centre was past pivot point  (front wheel axles ) .

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I am impressed if you managed that with just one helper.

It just took one person to remove the mill from the van and shift it round  to the rear of my house  , ME  :coffee: 





Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: tom osselton on August 31, 2016, 05:35:04 PM
Putting weight on the pump end works great.
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: nrml on September 03, 2016, 05:16:56 PM
Putting weight on the pump end works great.

I ended up cantilevering the column for the lift. The weight of the headstock end (which arrived loaded with the heavy end at the front of the vehicle) and having to have the Z axis parallel to  the feet of the hoist  so that it could be lowered to the floor made the moving around a bit nerve wracking. I guess weights would have made that more straight forward, but I wouldn't have had anything heavy enough even if had thought of it.
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: tom osselton on September 03, 2016, 10:45:26 PM
You could use a couple buddies.  :beer:
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on September 04, 2016, 02:30:11 PM
Evening Chaps



Made a wee bit space in the shop today and assembled the mill  :dremel:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/My%20Machinery/P1120096_zpsleyfx0en.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/My%20Machinery/P1120096_zpsleyfx0en.jpg.html)

A good clean and the electrics to re fit is all thats needed now , the old flexible conduit (ally/paper type )  is a tad crispy critter , I have some nice new 20 mm kopex conduit with flex glands that will do the job nicely .  :zap:


Rob
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: krv3000 on September 05, 2016, 05:20:10 PM
brill rob
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: tom osselton on September 05, 2016, 10:52:42 PM
Looks to be a nice machine!
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: awemawson on September 06, 2016, 03:23:27 AM
I LOVE the pink shovel you've got ready for the swarf  :lol:
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on September 06, 2016, 01:15:42 PM
I LOVE the pink shovel you've got ready for the swarf  :lol:

 :scratch: You mean you dont have a pink pirate shop bucket and spade Andrew  , shame on you  :poke:  , I bet you dont have a pink fishing net hanging from your shop roof either  :) 


Rob


 
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: tom osselton on September 06, 2016, 04:43:40 PM
I was going to comment on the pink pirate treasure shovel
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on September 06, 2016, 04:54:36 PM
I was going to comment on the pink pirate treasure shovel
Every  shop needs a set Tom  :lol:


Rob
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: S. Heslop on September 06, 2016, 05:08:42 PM
That's a nice mill.
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: Pete W. on September 07, 2016, 05:00:56 AM
I LOVE the pink shovel you've got ready for the swarf  :lol:

I use the business end of a seaside sand castle spade as a mini-dustpan while cleaning swarf from my Myford ML7 - it works well.

It's not pink, though, more a sort of sand yellow.  I've also got a smaller green one, that works too.

 :offtopic:   :offtopic:   :offtopic: 
And I've got a baby's bottle brush for cleaning out the Morse tapers in the ML7 head-stock and tail-stock.
Who cares what they were originally intended for as long as they're useful in my workshop!   :lol:   :ddb:   :lol:   :ddb:   :lol:   :ddb: 
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on September 25, 2016, 07:29:36 AM
Well back to reality now ,back from my holidays  :(

So to cheer myself up I went a wee road trip to pick up a few incidentals for the Bridgeport.  :dremel:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/My%20Machinery/P1140227_zpsez7c3ahi.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/My%20Machinery/P1140227_zpsez7c3ahi.jpg.html)

Slotting head and HZ quill adaptor , then wile down country I popped into Arceurotrade  for a 6 inch machine vice and a wee bit R8 tooling ,the lad there makes a cracking cup of tea  :thumbup: , then on the way back I swung buy Joules house to drop off the X,Y thing and have  bit crack , his lass also makes a canny brew  :coffee:

Suppose I better put my Boxford shaper and Lathe up for sale ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,groan ,let battle begin  :lol: 




Rob
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: John Rudd on September 25, 2016, 08:52:33 AM


Suppose I better put my Boxford shaper and Lathe up for sale ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,groan ,let battle begin  :lol: 

Rob

Maybe you have better luck flogging me a kit of parts to build a 626 mill..... :lol: :lol:

So how was the holiday then? :wave:

 Didnt see many pictures... :wack:

With all that additional hardware looks like you going to be busy.....
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on September 25, 2016, 08:55:55 AM
 :lol: :lol: Nope !  I will be keeping my 626 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,retirement project  :Doh:

I thought you would have bought a 626 by now John  :poke:


Holiday was great thanks ,just winding down today ,buck to work tomorrow  :( , I will see about sticking a few photos up through the week , my arse looks mint in a mankini  :lol: 

aye lots going on in the shop at the moment  :dremel:


Rob
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: John Rudd on September 25, 2016, 09:16:22 AM
:lol: :lol: Nope !  I will be keeping my 626 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,retirement project  :Doh:

I thought you would have bought a 626 by now John  :poke:



Rob

Well there are over 1600 reasons why I havent bought one yet  :bugeye: .I think I need to flog my Eagle30 first to put towards the cost..........
This is what happens when you retire and become a pauper.... :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on September 25, 2016, 09:20:58 AM
You sure its not you just being a Yorkshire man John    :D 

How much for a new one  ?  £1600      :bugeye:  and it will need fixing from new  :lol: :lol:


Rob
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: John Rudd on September 25, 2016, 09:31:23 AM
A new one from Chester is £1635 or Warco £1640....

The operating envelope doesnt appear to be as good as the Eagle, but then its biggest advantage is the knee....and the table is a little smaller....

What repairs do you refer to?

The nice to haves I'd like are a 4" riser and a vfd conversion...
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on September 25, 2016, 10:03:11 AM


What repairs do you refer to?



Well mine was a real dog ,  lets just say the parts fit where they touched  :palm:

Build quality , whats that !

Rare earth metals used lol

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1050519_zps57wunymr.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1050519_zps57wunymr.jpg.html)

not one leadscrew is the same diameter

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1050520_zpsnzyp2hus.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1050520_zpsnzyp2hus.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1050521_zpsdnkmhtxt.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1050521_zpsdnkmhtxt.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1050522_zpsaqjg6gpq.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1050522_zpsaqjg6gpq.jpg.html)
 (http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1050523_zpshqbvs3hk.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1050523_zpshqbvs3hk.jpg.html)

MMM there idea of a machined flat surface is not quite the same as mine 

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1050503_zpsagqtzsth.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1050503_zpsagqtzsth.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1050502_zpsck18drxh.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1050502_zpsck18drxh.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1050504_zpsiq7db54r.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1050504_zpsiq7db54r.jpg.html)

and getting two surfaces parallel ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you must be joking .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1050504_zpsiq7db54r.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1050504_zpsiq7db54r.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1060418_zpszhsauc2y.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1060418_zpszhsauc2y.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1060419_zps2x0yjntm.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1060419_zps2x0yjntm.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1060420_zpslbpvendr.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1060420_zpslbpvendr.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1060421_zpser2bqnuz.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1060421_zpser2bqnuz.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1060452_zpskbgpgrri.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1060452_zpskbgpgrri.jpg.html)


And I could go on  :Doh: 


Rob



 





 
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: John Rudd on September 25, 2016, 10:32:30 AM
Hmmm....Looks like you got your work cut out sorting stuff then.... :dremel:

Think I might look for something else....  :scratch:
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: Joules on September 25, 2016, 10:39:31 AM
Hmmmmm, I had my heart set on a Warco 626 for years, but if I'm going to buy a project....    :scratch:   Might as well be any of the available mills these days.
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: awemawson on September 25, 2016, 10:39:55 AM
Rob, was it new when you got it, or had a previous owner 'breathed' on it ? That lead screw nut implies someone had driven it hard into overtravel  :bugeye:
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on September 25, 2016, 10:44:38 AM
All those issues have been sorted John  :dremel:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1060466_zps5atmcmib.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1060466_zps5atmcmib.jpg.html)
 (http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1060651_zpsqgaz6wym.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1060651_zpsqgaz6wym.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1060434_zps3nzsmjtx.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1060434_zps3nzsmjtx.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1060653_zpskue8u8yy.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/626%20CNC%20Mill/P1060653_zpskue8u8yy.jpg.html)

I just have not had time nor the interest in the project ,one day I will get back on with it .

Why not go for a used industrial machine ?


Rob
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: Joules on September 25, 2016, 10:48:24 AM
Only if it has workshop space below it.  By the way Rob, nice setup you have.
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on September 25, 2016, 10:50:26 AM
Rob, was it new when you got it, or had a previous owner 'breathed' on it ? That lead screw nut implies someone had driven it hard into overtravel  :bugeye:

It was a year old when I got it Andrew , and the old bloke sadly died a few months after getting it . The screw nut is as fit from new ,just very poor quality . but at the time they where £1400 new ,so at the end of the day what can one expects for that sort of money .


Rob   
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: John Stevenson on September 25, 2016, 10:50:41 AM
Well back to reality now ,back from my holidays  :(

So to cheer myself up I went a wee road trip to pick up a few incidentals for the Bridgeport.  :dremel:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/My%20Machinery/P1140227_zpsez7c3ahi.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/My%20Machinery/P1140227_zpsez7c3ahi.jpg.html)

Slotting head and HZ quill adaptor , then wile down country I popped into Arceurotrade  for a 6 inch machine vice and a wee bit R8 tooling ,the lad there makes a cracking cup of tea  :thumbup: , then on the way back I swung buy Joules house to drop off the X,Y thing and have  bit crack , his lass also makes a canny brew  :coffee:

Suppose I better put my Boxford shaper and Lathe up for sale ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,groan ,let battle begin  :lol: 




Rob

You should have called in and you could have taken a van load of steel and other stuff with you. Mind you we only serve coffee  :doh:
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on September 25, 2016, 10:55:28 AM
Hmmmmm, I had my heart set on a Warco 626 for years, but if I'm going to buy a project....    :scratch:   Might as well be any of the available mills these days.

I am sure there are good versions of the 626 mill out there , did Myford manufacture a variant ?  what is the 626 mill a copy of ?  would be interesting to know its origins .

Luckily converting it to CNC meant I got to throw  out most of the crap parts  :med:


Rob
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on September 25, 2016, 10:59:34 AM
Mind you we only serve coffee  :doh:

Black three sugars next  time John  :thumbup:


Rob
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on September 25, 2016, 11:05:10 AM
Looks like the 626 is a copy of the Myford VM  http://www.lathes.co.uk/myfordmillers/page2.html 

now one of those would sit next to your S7 nicely Joules


Rob
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: Joules on September 25, 2016, 11:19:45 AM
Had been saving for 2yrs before Myford went tits up for one of their VME's, blew it all on new computers and 3D printers    :(   I still lust after one every time I see a secondhand advertised.
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on September 25, 2016, 11:47:04 AM
There be one on ebay now http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MYFORD-VM-C-VERTICAL-MILLING-MACHINE-/131941519372?hash=item1eb853d00c:g:Oq0AAOSw4shX3Gs8


Rob
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: Joules on September 25, 2016, 12:04:18 PM
I need to be content with the little SU1, with a few mods and some TLC like you have provide to the 626 I'm sure this would be a cracking little desktop knee mill.  It's just crying out for a better vertical head arrangement, either bolted on the overarm as is, or a new block to sit on the column and provide the spindle with a rack and pinion lift, bit like a hybrid Aciera F1

I can but dream   :drool: 
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on September 25, 2016, 12:28:22 PM
Joules I am sure you SU1 will turn out to be a very versatile machine when your finished modding it  :proj:


Rob
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: Joules on September 25, 2016, 12:54:36 PM
 :lol:

    This one is going CNC, so a very different life to a manual machine.
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: doubleboost on September 25, 2016, 05:10:50 PM
There be one on ebay now http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MYFORD-VM-C-VERTICAL-MILLING-MACHINE-/131941519372?hash=item1eb853d00c:g:Oq0AAOSw4shX3Gs8


Rob

The cutters with that mill are for a horizontal (just what I need)
John
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: smiffy on September 25, 2016, 05:15:56 PM
John if you need some horizontal  cutters pm me your address and I will send you some. Mike
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: doubleboost on September 25, 2016, 05:21:26 PM
PM Sent
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on September 25, 2016, 05:36:03 PM
:lol:

    This one is going CNC, so a very different life to a manual machine.

I am sure it will be a very different machine by the time your finished with it Joules  :dremel:  , well unless the dog  eats it first  :lol:

You planning on getting the young lad involved with the conversion ?


Rob   
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: Joules on September 26, 2016, 08:29:41 AM
I hope so, plan on teaching him to use a dial gauge so he can measure play in all the ways and get a feel for too loose and too tight, plus it will be an exercise in how things work.  I can see next years Doncaster Show being fun for him.  He should just have enough knowledge by then to be dangerous.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: John Rudd on September 27, 2016, 05:12:27 AM
There be one on ebay now http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MYFORD-VM-C-VERTICAL-MILLING-MACHINE-/131941519372?hash=item1eb853d00c:g:Oq0AAOSw4shX3Gs8


Rob

I watched it to the end....it sold at its starting price....
I didnt buy it, 'er-indoors' said" you dont know what you are buying..." Good point...I guess...plus the fact that its 2/3rds the cost of a new machine and I would have had the aggro of collectiing from Wales...

Ah well, I'll keep looking dreaming... :coffee:
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on October 01, 2016, 07:32:11 AM
One day John  :med:

Well I decided to have a wee road trip South again this morning , about a 370 mile round trip .Made it  back in time for lunch   :)

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/My%20Machinery/P1140228_zpsouytbzgq.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/My%20Machinery/P1140228_zpsouytbzgq.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/My%20Machinery/P1140229_zpsldwlrygz.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/My%20Machinery/P1140229_zpsldwlrygz.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/My%20Machinery/P1140231_zpsnajgm09w.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/My%20Machinery/P1140231_zpsnajgm09w.jpg.html)

1100 Kgs of joy  :dremel:


Rob  ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, mmmmmm now  what to have for bait  :coffee:
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: Joules on October 01, 2016, 08:02:49 AM
I take it once you got upto speed, you couldn't  stop as you whizzed past Rotherham   :lol:

Never fails to amaze me how you shoe horn loads into that van and then get them out.

Nice one Rob.
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on October 01, 2016, 08:15:53 AM
Aye once the van  attained  maximum forward velocity there was no stopping me   :) , I will be back down your way in a few weeks  :thumbup:


Rob
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: philf on October 01, 2016, 09:13:12 AM
Rob,

Surely there's not enough room for that and a Bridgeport in your Tardis!

Or have some things got to go to make space?

Cheers.

Phil.
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on October 01, 2016, 10:13:15 AM
Hi Phil

Yes some machines will be going, the  Boxford shaper ,Boxford  lathe  and maybe a grinder or two  , I sold all the foundry gear earlier in the year and I have allot more reorganisation of the workshop to do , all good fun .

Suppose  I better remove the lathe from the van now  :dremel:

Rob   
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: John Rudd on October 01, 2016, 01:26:06 PM


Suppose  I better remove the lathe from the van now  :dremel:

Rob

I'd love to see how you achieved this amazing feat of weight transferance..... :scratch:
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: John Stevenson on October 01, 2016, 01:28:16 PM
Why, it will hold it down on slippery roads. Which reminds me, must go and collect a Harrison 140 from a school that I have bought.
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: DavidA on October 01, 2016, 01:50:49 PM
You bought a school ?

That's got to be a first for this group.

Dave. :clap:
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: krv3000 on October 01, 2016, 02:44:03 PM
good one rob
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on October 02, 2016, 07:15:49 AM


Suppose  I better remove the lathe from the van now  :dremel:

Rob

I'd love to see how you achieved this amazing feat of weight transferance..... :scratch:


Like so John  :thumbup:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/My%20Machinery/P1140234_zpshvxxsq9g.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/My%20Machinery/P1140234_zpshvxxsq9g.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/My%20Machinery/P1140241_zpsie7xihgb.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/My%20Machinery/P1140241_zpsie7xihgb.jpg.html)


Walk in the park . :)

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/My%20Machinery/P1140245_zpsexkjnqnk.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/My%20Machinery/P1140245_zpsexkjnqnk.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/My%20Machinery/P1140247_zpsbwgollrg.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/My%20Machinery/P1140247_zpsbwgollrg.jpg.html)

Anyone out there with a spare travelling steady they wish to part with ?  £££

Rob



Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: John Rudd on October 02, 2016, 07:29:08 AM
I'm impressed.... :bow: :bow:

I used an engine crane to lift my lathe onto its stand off the floor.....and thought that was scary stuff....well done...Did you do this all by yourself or did you have help?

So onto the lathe, is it single or 3 phase?...

I've used the bigger version when I was at work, great machines...
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on October 02, 2016, 07:41:28 AM
Hi John ,cheers mate .

Aye all by ones self ,having help  can really be more bother than its worth ,a distraction . And getting good help is very  hard to fined , any way its not that heavy mate .



Yes three phase 7.5 Hp motor I think  :scratch: , should dim the lights a tad  :zap:

I very nearly bought the long bed version ,but at the last minute decided against .


Rob
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: John Rudd on October 02, 2016, 08:10:54 AM


Yes three phase 7.5 Hp motor I think  :scratch: , should dim the lights a tad  :zap:

I very nearly bought the long bed version ,but at the last minute decided against .


Rob

So how you going to run it? Rpc? ( a big one!.....)

Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on October 02, 2016, 09:02:12 AM
That's the plan John ,  I will be ordering a 10 Hp Transwave RPC in a week or so  :zap:


Rob
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: micktoon on October 02, 2016, 06:10:47 PM
Hi Rob, looks like its all happening  :thumbup: Colchester looks in good nick, looks like Newall DRO to, is the tool post S2 Dixon type ? Canny jack and hoist work getting it out the van mind, do you still have the other Colchester too ?
  Looks like you will be kept busy in the dark nights moving everything about. Are you going for new Rotary converter ?
  Cheers Mick
Title: Re: Arboga Geared Head Drill tart up
Post by: RobWilson on October 03, 2016, 01:24:59 AM
Yes I still have the other Colchester lathe  :dremel:

Rob
Title: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: chipenter on October 03, 2016, 02:30:00 AM
What hapened to the drill ?
Title: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on October 03, 2016, 10:09:11 AM
Still in the same state that I left it  :lol: , thread has wandered slightly  :Doh: 



Rob

This thread needs a rename   :coffee:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: awemawson on October 03, 2016, 10:22:48 AM
Thread title re-named at Rob's request
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on October 03, 2016, 11:57:24 AM
Cheers Andrew  :clap: :clap:


Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on October 06, 2016, 11:07:17 AM
Evening Lads

I picked up another bit of kit for the shop today , something I have been after for some time , a 10" pedestal grinder  :dremel: 

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/My%20Machinery/P1140249_zps9kgdsfby.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/My%20Machinery/P1140249_zps9kgdsfby.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/My%20Machinery/P1140252_zpsff4zbrco.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/My%20Machinery/P1140252_zpsff4zbrco.jpg.html)

Its a ye oldie Black and Decker , 3 phase , fairly beefy bit of kit .   My 6" bench grinder will be re homed in the other shop for sharpening tungsten electrodes and the likes .


Cheers Rob   
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Manxmodder on October 06, 2016, 11:24:40 AM
Now, that's a proper grinder. A mate of mine used to have one similar in his old workshop. The wheels on his were about 2" wide. You can't beat having the mix of large circumference wheels and the added high inertial mass that goes with it.....OZ.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: vintageandclassicrepairs on October 06, 2016, 01:43:57 PM
Hi Rob,
Some time ago I posted about some refurbishment work I did on my Colchester Triumph 2000
http://madmodder.net/index.php/topic,10697.msg123432.html#msg123432

Yours looks to be a tidy machine
I am running mine from a VFD, 220v 3 phase so the motor terminals needed changing to delta configuration

There are a few issues on them that you need to look out for !!
The drive pulleys on the gearbox input shaft can wear (as on mine)
Some versions of the lathes have mains voltage to the control buttons, theres a gap below the chuck where swarf can find its way into the controls :bang: (mine now has low voltage controls)

Coolant finds its way easily into the apron gearbox, so when you use the one shot oiler its possible to pump coolant instead of oil

If you locate the lathe against a wall then you need to move the coolant tank to outside of the base so you can access it.

John
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Will_D on October 06, 2016, 06:57:27 PM
Love that the "MAX RPM" is unspecified!

A bit like "Max Headroom"
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Joules on October 06, 2016, 07:00:10 PM
I can only assume it's MAD MAX
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on October 07, 2016, 12:41:33 PM
Hi Rob,
Some time ago I posted about some refurbishment work I did on my Colchester Triumph 2000
http://madmodder.net/index.php/topic,10697.msg123432.html#msg123432

Yours looks to be a tidy machine
I am running mine from a VFD, 220v 3 phase so the motor terminals needed changing to delta configuration

There are a few issues on them that you need to look out for !!
The drive pulleys on the gearbox input shaft can wear (as on mine)
Some versions of the lathes have mains voltage to the control buttons, theres a gap below the chuck where swarf can find its way into the controls :bang: (mine now has low voltage controls)

Coolant finds its way easily into the apron gearbox, so when you use the one shot oiler its possible to pump coolant instead of oil

If you locate the lathe against a wall then you need to move the coolant tank to outside of the base so you can access it.

John


Cheers for the heads up John  :thumbup: 

I will be giving the lathe a good check over when I get it into the workshop , I did notice the rear entry to get to the coolant ,I am still pondering that one as I will have the lathe up against the shop wall .


Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on October 07, 2016, 12:43:14 PM
Love that the "MAX RPM" is unspecified!

A bit like "Max Headroom"

 :lol: aye it is a bit random Will  ,especially as its a fixed speed motor  :scratch:


Rob   
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on October 08, 2016, 09:12:24 AM
Afternoon Lads

Well I picked up a couple more incidentals for the shop this morning , I had a wee run South to Pontefract and came back with these  :drool:


A rather tidy  10" Elliott rotary table for the Bridgeport .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/My%20Machinery/P1140257_zpspfbpgik6.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/My%20Machinery/P1140257_zpspfbpgik6.jpg.html)

and an  Auto reversing tapping head for the   Arborga drilling machine

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/My%20Machinery/P1140258_zps45nshitr.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/My%20Machinery/P1140258_zps45nshitr.jpg.html)



Rob  :dremel:




Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: awemawson on October 08, 2016, 09:34:32 AM
Did you win the lottery then Rob  :scratch:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on October 08, 2016, 09:41:57 AM
Did you win the lottery then Rob  :scratch:

Nope just good at hunting out a bargain ,,,,,,,,,,or three  Andrew  :)


Rob 
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on October 13, 2016, 01:48:05 PM
Evening Lads

A wee bit product review  :dremel: 

I had a job on today that required the relocation of a couple of holes in a hydraulic pump flange and a bracket , pump needed to be rotated about 10 degrees so that the suction hose would not foul the engine sump .

The pump is located in a fairly confined space , so I cracked out the transfer screws I purchased wile  at Arceurotrade a few weeks back .

The kits come in two ranges  3mm - 6mm  &  6mm - 12mm

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140264_zps9kop1tvz.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140264_zps9kop1tvz.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140265_zpsbpbbmwdb.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140265_zpsbpbbmwdb.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140267_zpsbt2w2hdn.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140267_zpsbt2w2hdn.jpg.html)

The M8 and M12 saved the day  :thumbup:   .


Each kits come with a driver to fit and remove the transfer screws .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140269_zpsgzomsnvk.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140269_zpsgzomsnvk.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140268_zpszmjfnk3f.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140268_zpszmjfnk3f.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140270_zps1bdcqje9.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140270_zps1bdcqje9.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140271_zps33mohpaw.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140271_zps33mohpaw.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140272_zpsoid4ugos.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140272_zpsoid4ugos.jpg.html)

Just the job  :dremel:

Rob
   

http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Measurement/Punches-Scribes/Transfer-Screws





 
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Mayhem on October 14, 2016, 08:09:35 AM
...its a tad worse for wear and needs some Wilson loving...

I thought this was a family-friendly web site  :bugeye:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: vintageandclassicrepairs on October 26, 2016, 04:41:25 PM
Hi Rob,
I was doing a bit to the Colchester over the last few days
As you are intending to do mine has been located with its back to a wall
I believe theres room for the coolant tank to sit on the floor behind the front panel between the pedestals
It will take a bit of reorganising of the drain from the swarf tray though !!!
I'm thinking of some sort of bund tray to sit the tank and pump into ??

I made a novice mistake where I mounted the oil filter unit  :doh:
I had not looked at the back of the big end cover to see theres a dividing partition between the belts and the gear train :bang:
I will have to drill mounting holes for a bracket in the cast iron and reposition the unit low down

John
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on October 26, 2016, 04:53:56 PM
Hi John

I got the lathe moved into the workshop at the weekend and was looking at the coolant tank access  problem ,and I may just transfer the rear coolant access cut out to the front of the leg ,using the rear access cover on the front .

I will also have to re mount the Y axis DRO scale as it sticks straight out from the saddle . All fun and games .

Cheers Rob 
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: awemawson on October 26, 2016, 04:57:09 PM
On my Master 2500 when it was against the wall at my last place, I truncated (cut & shut) the tank so I could just squeeze it in and out.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on October 26, 2016, 05:00:11 PM
In other news I did happen across a rather nice (well i think so ) set of angle blocks , hardened and ground ,in 5 degree increments ,5/8 thick  should be a handy addition to the shop  :dremel:

Rob

 
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on October 26, 2016, 05:02:10 PM
On my Master 2500 when it was against the wall at my last place, I truncated (cut & shut) the tank so I could just squeeze it in and out.

I dont think I will have room to get at it from the rear Andrew , other machines in the way , my shop is a tad more cosy now  :palm:


Rob 
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: j1312v on October 27, 2016, 12:57:51 PM
Nice set  :drool:, someone definitively used his lunch wisely  :clap:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: vintageandclassicrepairs on October 27, 2016, 02:52:37 PM
Hi All,
Another mod that I would like to inflict on the Colchester is to move the clutch fwd/rev lever to the left hand side of the apron  :palm:
Why ??
Well two reasons, firstly I'm left handed, second is that the lever on my other lathe is on the left
It will take me time to learn to use and get used to the foot brake /stop bar

John
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: millwright on October 27, 2016, 06:26:45 PM
A nice set of angle blocks there Rob, A handy bit of kit, is there a makers name on them?

John
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on October 28, 2016, 12:42:57 PM
Nice set  :drool:, someone definitively used his lunch wisely  :clap:

Lunch time is for feeding my face lol .

Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on October 28, 2016, 12:49:09 PM
A nice set of angle blocks there Rob, A handy bit of kit, is there a makers name on them?

John

Hi John

No manufactures name/logo , but I am hoping this is the actual makers name  L Williamson it and the angles are very  faintly etched into each block  ,it would be nice to think he actually made the angle blocks .


Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 02, 2016, 04:57:00 PM
I now have  POWER !  :zap:

Phase converter arrived today  :ddb:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140279_zpszvil69kb.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140279_zpszvil69kb.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140282_zps0xb6gqht.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140282_zps0xb6gqht.jpg.html)

Transwave 10Hp  , now I just have to decided where to put it ,I might knock up a wee bracket and wall mount it .


 :beer: Rob

Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: John Rudd on November 02, 2016, 05:03:25 PM
Looks a nice but of kit the Rob...  :thumbup:

Make sure its properly earthed..... :zap: dont want you lectricuting yerself...
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 02, 2016, 05:06:37 PM
Cheer John

It sure will be  :thumbup:

Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: DavidA on November 03, 2016, 07:14:18 AM
And he even bought a new engine hoist to unload it.

Dave. :D
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Spurry on November 03, 2016, 08:03:41 AM
Rob
If you do decide to put it on a shelf, make sure it cannot fall off. Mine does tend to walk round quite a bit, and generate a fair bit of noise.
Depends on what you are used to, I know, but mine ended up next door to the actual workshop.
Happy generating
Pete
Title: OT Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: DMIOM on November 03, 2016, 08:21:00 AM
...... Mine does tend to walk round quite a bit...... mine ended up next door to the actual workshop......

Did it walk there by itself or did you show it the way?  :coffee:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: awemawson on November 03, 2016, 11:52:25 AM
Rob
If you do decide to put it on a shelf, make sure it cannot fall off. Mine does tend to walk round quite a bit, and generate a fair bit of noise.
Depends on what you are used to, I know, but mine ended up next door to the actual workshop.
Happy generating
Pete

Years ago I had a Transwave static converter that fell off a shelf - slightly dented but the voltage sensitive relay / socket arrangement broke from the shock of the fall - it was a good few years old at the time. When I rang Transwave  to buy a replacement relay they insisted on giving me one for free which I thought was a really good indication of what sort of a company they are.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: krv3000 on November 03, 2016, 12:49:27 PM
brill rob
Title: Re: OT Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Spurry on November 03, 2016, 01:31:38 PM
Did it walk there by itself or did you show it the way?  :coffee:
I think it was a little sad at being banished to the shed, so was attempting to get back into the workshop. It could not manage the locked door though.  :D
Pete
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: micktoon on November 03, 2016, 02:36:34 PM
Hi Rob , Looks very nice and new  :drool: did you go for the 10hp in the end ? I can't remember did you have a sort of ring going around  the shop. I am going to put sockets and remote buttons for the converter down one side of the workshop.
  Enjoy your 3 phase lad  :thumbup:
cheers Mick
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 03, 2016, 04:31:42 PM
Cheers Lads  :thumbup:

Aye ,,,I had a rotary phase converter years ago that used to growl a tad , we will see what this one is like  :med: I have a good selection of rubber mounts at hand  :thumbup:

Well today I came across a canny find , one that will solve one of my on going problems , how to make my limited workshop space hold more . 

The story goes like this  :D as I was leaving a job in Newcastle were I noticed a new ALDI store and fancying making a pot of goulash at the weekend ,thought aaarh ALDI do good rump stake ,so swings the van about and goes shopping ,well wile minding my own businesses decided whether to get some gnocchi my eyes fell upon these wall cabinets .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140286_zpsasyei4xc.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140286_zpsasyei4xc.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140287_zpssvfsykdu.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140287_zpssvfsykdu.jpg.html)

Reduced to £15  :bugeye:  , so I went and payed for my groceries and popped back into the store for four of them ,thinking they would be ok ,

So gets home and whacks one together and was pleasantly surprised at the quality .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140283_zps4z8bxnbr.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140283_zps4z8bxnbr.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140284_zps4jqvclj3.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140284_zps4jqvclj3.jpg.html)
 (http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140285_zps7adtajak.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140285_zps7adtajak.jpg.html)

So much so I nipped back to the Forden store and bought six more (all that they had )

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140291_zpsn7depiph.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140291_zpsn7depiph.jpg.html)

So I now have six meters of cabinet space to fill .


Cheers Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: John Rudd on November 03, 2016, 04:39:47 PM
Junk!

Junk!

Junk!




That's what you will find in them..... :lol: Tis true, the more space you have the more 'stuff' you accumulate, which is why my garage is cramped......just not enough room.... :scratch:

Seriously though, those cabs look the dogs donuts Rob.... :thumbup:  I could do with a couple meself...but I'd only fill 'em with 'stuff' :D

You going to post a piccy or two with them mounted on the wall?

Make us all even more jealous.... :beer:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 03, 2016, 04:52:04 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: aye sure will John  :thumbup:


You have seen my shop and things are just a tad tight ,worse now mate  :palm:,  also redoing the the shelf above the garage door .just bough a few storage boxes from these folk .

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331631913929?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=540775743354&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: doubleboost on November 03, 2016, 05:29:51 PM
Did they have any left or did you clean them out
John
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: krv3000 on November 03, 2016, 05:38:57 PM
ooo will have a look at the one near me
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 06, 2016, 11:09:00 AM
Evening Chaps ,

 I  managed to get four of those wall cabinets up over the weekend .  :dremel:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140293_zpsriszxlzq.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140293_zpsriszxlzq.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140296_zps12bt3zjd.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140296_zps12bt3zjd.jpg.html)

Rob  :beer:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: John Rudd on November 06, 2016, 11:31:02 AM
Looking good Rob,  :thumbup:
I tried my local Aldi, but no joy...none left... :doh:

Guess  I'll have to rethink my storage strategy.....the floor is getting rather full.... :lol:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: awemawson on November 06, 2016, 12:04:09 PM
Nice cupboards Rob  :thumbup:

I do envy you your RSJ hoist - looks very handy in a grunt preventing sort of way

Are you absolutely SURE that you have enough milling machines in that workshop  :lol:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 06, 2016, 12:15:33 PM
Looking good Rob,  :thumbup:
I tried my local Aldi, but no joy...none left... :doh:

Guess  I'll have to rethink my storage strategy.....the floor is getting rather full.... :lol:

Cheers John

There is a few cabinets on Ebay   http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wall-Mounted-Lockable-Garage-Steel-Cabinet-Boxed-Unopened-/282245496231?hash=item41b7247da7:g:lGoAAOSw5cNYHhI9  NO ! thats not me selling the ones I have  :lol:       £70  :loco:

I still have my big shelf to finish , then I should have room for everything I have lying about on the shop floor   :ddb:

Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 06, 2016, 12:21:06 PM
Nice cupboards Rob  :thumbup:

I do envy you your RSJ hoist - looks very handy in a grunt preventing sort of way

Are you absolutely SURE that you have enough milling machines in that workshop  :lol:

Cheers Andrew  :beer:

Aye the wee RSJ pull lift combo comes in handy at time , especially when the need arises to  support the end of something  long .


Mmmmmm , one could always do with more milling machines  :dremel:  ,,,,,,,,, I dare bet you have more than I  :poke:

Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: awemawson on November 06, 2016, 12:25:57 PM
Just a Bridgeport manual and the Beaver Partsmaster CNC, and the Bridgeport doubles as a drill press in the metal shop.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 06, 2016, 12:27:48 PM
 :scratch:  I was under the impression you had at least two manual mills Andrew .

Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Pete W. on November 06, 2016, 12:44:57 PM
Nice cupboards Rob  :thumbup:

I do envy you your RSJ hoist - looks very handy in a grunt preventing sort of way

Are you absolutely SURE that you have enough milling machines in that workshop  :lol:

Cheers Andrew  :beer:

Aye the wee RSJ pull lift combo comes in handy at time , especially when the need arises to  support the end of something  long .


Mmmmmm , one could always do with more milling machines  :dremel:  ,,,,,,,,, I dare bet you have more than I  :poke:

Rob

Mmmm, RSJ hoist, I guess that's to lift the cabinets.

Then you have to get up there with the electric drill to make the fixings.  I was assuming you'd stand on the table of the nearest mill (you know, with so many there's bound to be one within reach!).

What I couldn't work out was how you'd reach to wind up the knee with the drill in one hand, the wall-plugs in the other and the screw-driver between your teeth!
   :lol:   :ddb:   :lol:   :ddb:   :lol:   :ddb:   :lol:   :ddb: 
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 09, 2016, 04:34:32 PM
 :lol: Aye the mill tables get close at times Pete  :palm:


Well made a wee bit more progress with my large shelf tonight ,I was pushed on by the arivel today of my second order of plastic storage tubs .

(I needed  somewhere to put them )

First section I did the other day , this replaces an older shelf I had up across the door ,this one is higher .
 The door will be replaced in the spring with something more to my needs ,I really dislike up and over doors .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140300_zpsfimthhpm.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140300_zpsfimthhpm.jpg.html)

So I welded up the right hand section tonight ,I had to use an old oil filed welded to do the welding as I could not get to the MIG  ,way to much crap in the way  :palm:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140303_zpswbwvbelh.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140303_zpswbwvbelh.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140307_zpsqtaxggwj.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140307_zpsqtaxggwj.jpg.html)

May tackle the left hand leg tomorrow night , well if its not raining .


Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: John Rudd on November 09, 2016, 05:06:34 PM
Cant wait for a coffee at yours and a tour next time I'm up that way... :)
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: howsitwork? on November 09, 2016, 05:38:41 PM
Nice cupboards Rob  :thumbup:

I do envy you your RSJ hoist - looks very handy in a grunt preventing sort of way

Are you absolutely SURE that you have enough milling machines in that workshop  :lol:

Cheers Andrew  :beer:

Aye the wee RSJ pull lift combo comes in handy at time , especially when the need arises to  support the end of something  long .


Mmmmmm , one could always do with more milling machines  :dremel:  ,,,,,,,,, I dare bet you have more than I  :poke:

Rob

Mmmm, RSJ hoist, I guess that's to lift the cabinets.

Then you have to get up there with the electric drill to make the fixings.  I was assuming you'd stand on the table of the nearest mill (you know, with so many there's bound to be one within reach!).

What I couldn't work out was how you'd reach to wind up the knee with the drill in one hand, the wall-plugs in the other and the screw-driver between your teeth!
   :lol:   :ddb:   :lol:   :ddb:   :lol:   :ddb:   :lol:   :ddb:
Is this when he earns the nickname clever dick ?
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: howsitwork? on November 09, 2016, 05:44:21 PM
Blimey Rob, that's some storage arrangement :bow:

 I 'm going to have to re configure my shop as just been left some stuff by a relative. Don't see any "skyhooks for clamps" up there yet? :med:

What's with the milling machine fetish?. one cabinet per machine and clean (ish) walls really classy mate nicely done. Daren't show mine on here ( as can only fit in sideways past the metal bandsaw).

Regards Ian
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Will_D on November 09, 2016, 06:17:46 PM
Hi Rob, very impressive shelving but surely you are violating a MAJOR engineering rule:

Stuff expands to fill the available storage space!

So more space = more stuff!
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Pete W. on November 10, 2016, 05:47:58 AM
Hi there, Rob,

Wow, that's some storage capacity you've got there!   :drool:   :drool:   :drool: 

I guess you'll need a good labelling system to keep track of that's where.

I see that you've got a suspension bar from the ceiling.  What is the ceiling material, it looks like painted OSB? 
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Spurry on November 10, 2016, 08:53:50 AM
My "system" uses similar boxes but of different sizes, as my "stuff" is not all the same. All the boxes are indexed on the computer, so in theory I should be able to find what I am looking for . :-)This pic is some of them, when the building had nearly been completed,..... before the space got filled up.  :scratch:
Pete
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 10, 2016, 11:30:43 AM
Cant wait for a coffee at yours and a tour next time I'm up that way... :)

You have an invite to the grand re opening John  :thumbup:

Are you up this way over the Christmas ?  If so call in .


Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 10, 2016, 11:36:18 AM
Blimey Rob, that's some storage arrangement :bow:

 I 'm going to have to re configure my shop as just been left some stuff by a relative. Don't see any "skyhooks for clamps" up there yet? :med:

What's with the milling machine fetish?. one cabinet per machine and clean (ish) walls really classy mate nicely done. Daren't show mine on here ( as can only fit in sideways past the metal bandsaw).

Regards Ian


Hi Ian

Sky hooks  for G clamps ,,,,,,,,,,,,well thats in the other shop  :lol:

I just like machine tools ,I also have five lathes  :palm:  ,I have noticed my walls are looking very grubby ,not bad for 18 years of coolant being splashed about ,but I think its time for a re paint ,so bought some paint today . The cabinets just worked out that way .


Cheers Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 10, 2016, 11:46:31 AM
Hi there, Rob,

Wow, that's some storage capacity you've got there!   :drool:   :drool:   :drool: 

I guess you'll need a good labelling system to keep track of that's where.

I see that you've got a suspension bar from the ceiling.  What is the ceiling material, it looks like painted OSB?

Cheers Pete

I have ordered a set of 2" vinyl numbers to stick on the boxes , plan label boxes 1 to what ever   and have a book with one page per box listing content .

The ceiling is 9mm OSB board    :thumbup:, the hangers fixings go through the OSB board into the 6x2 ceiling joist ,thats why the shelf end piece protrudes passed the front  face of the shelf so I could fix to the joist , did you think it was just fixed to the 9 mm board ? 

Cheers Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 10, 2016, 11:49:28 AM
My "system" uses similar boxes but of different sizes, as my "stuff" is not all the same. All the boxes are indexed on the computer, so in theory I should be able to find what I am looking for . :-)This pic is some of them, when the building had nearly been completed,..... before the space got filled up.  :scratch:
Pete

Nice setup Pete  :clap: :clap:



Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: micktoon on November 10, 2016, 12:41:47 PM
Looking good Rob ,funny as I looked at the photos I thought the walls were looking grubby next to new cabinets. Is the new Colchester staying in that spot or just there until you get things sorted out for final set up ? You should have a mill for any occasion now by the look of it lol.
  Cheers Mick
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Pete W. on November 10, 2016, 01:57:59 PM

Cheers Pete

I have ordered a set of 2" vinyl numbers to stick on the boxes , plan label boxes 1 to what ever   and have a book with one page per box listing content .

The ceiling is 9mm OSB board    :thumbup:, the hangers fixings go through the OSB board into the 6x2 ceiling joist ,thats why the shelf end piece protrudes passed the front  face of the shelf so I could fix to the joist , did you think it was just fixed to the 9 mm board ? 

Cheers Rob

Well, no, I was confident it would be secure (you know, the tie-bar right through the ceiling, and the roof, and anchored to a reinforced concrete parabolic arch spanning the entire building!).
   :lol:   :ddb:   :lol:   :ddb:   :lol:   :ddb: 

But then, when that flight of fancy wore off, I looked at your picture again and wondered if your joists run across the building or along it??   :scratch:   :scratch:

{Sort of apology: I'm being facetious because I've had to sit by the phone all day waiting for an important phone call so I haven't been able to get in to the workshop!!  I want to get back to grips with my Delrin!!!!!}
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Joules on November 10, 2016, 02:32:06 PM
I had to double read that it was WALLS

 :lol:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: millwright on November 10, 2016, 02:51:11 PM
He has only covered all the walls with cupboards and shelves to save money on the paint!!!!!!!! :lol:

John
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 12, 2016, 04:32:18 PM
Evening Lads  :wave:


Not allot done today ,but I did finish the left hand shelf .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140314_zpsec94dpno.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140314_zpsec94dpno.jpg.html)

All thats left to do is fix the plywood to the steel work  :dremel: then I have 6.5 meters of shelf to fill up  :)


The last of the T2 tool holders arrived this morning , the post man loves me  :lol: :lol:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140309_zpsqi0iqayc.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140309_zpsqi0iqayc.jpg.html)

I picked up a second T2 Tool post to replace the ye oldie 4 way on the Student Lathe .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140312_zpsejho6kso.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140312_zpsejho6kso.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140313_zps1jib4slc.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140313_zps1jib4slc.jpg.html)

This way bought lathes can share the same tooling .

Cheers Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: ieezitin on November 13, 2016, 09:51:00 AM
Dam it Rob...

22 individual tool holders I covet that flexibility well done on the score... What gives with the fruity coloured tape ball hanging underneath the megawatt die handle ?

Anthony.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 13, 2016, 11:50:04 AM
Dam it Rob...

 What gives with the fruity coloured tape ball hanging underneath the megawatt die handle ?

Anthony.

Hi Anthony


 :lol: :lol: Workshop Christmas decoration  :lol:

Narh they are just some Anodised colour samples I did a wile back ,


(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140324_zpsidk6emlr.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140324_zpsidk6emlr.jpg.html)

Rob

Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 13, 2016, 11:54:48 AM
Evening Lads

Moved another cabinet today , and sorted some of my milling cutters out  :dremel:


(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140319_zpsmfoyhila.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140319_zpsmfoyhila.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140323_zpsnqdukt5l.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140323_zpsnqdukt5l.jpg.html)

The walls look worse now ,looks like I will be getting the paint out  :palm:


Cheers Rob  :beer:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: krv3000 on November 13, 2016, 01:51:25 PM
brill rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: NeoTech on November 13, 2016, 02:00:11 PM
... neat freak.  :poke:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 13, 2016, 02:44:23 PM
Cheers Bob  :beer:



... neat freak.  :poke:

Not according to my wife  :lol: :lol: 

Rob 
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 16, 2016, 03:50:55 PM
Evening Chaps  :wave:


Well that's four more wall cabinets built up and fixed to the wall of workshop #2

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140326_zpsnnwacqxi.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140326_zpsnnwacqxi.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140330_zps0qt19mg7.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140330_zps0qt19mg7.jpg.html)

Things went smoothly for change , as I only had to remove an existing shelf ,no lights ,sockets or air line to move   .So that just leaves two more cabinets  to find a home for .  :scratch:


Cheers Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: John Rudd on November 16, 2016, 04:16:28 PM
Evening Chaps  :wave:


Well that's four more wall cabinets built up and fixed to the wall of workshop #2

So that just leaves two more cabinets  to find a home for .  :scratch:


Cheers Rob


Looks good Rob, very neat. :bow:

I know the perfect place for the lonesome two..... :lol: :lol:

I'm sure you'll find wall space for them..... :thumbup:      ( ahem, if you dont....etc. etc...)
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 16, 2016, 04:33:39 PM
Cheers John  :beer:


IF I cant find a home for them you can have them for 1269 Rupees each  :lol: , but I think I may have just the spot for at least one of them  :med:


In other news , how you fixed for VFD's mate  ?  may need another same as last .


Rob 
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: John Rudd on November 16, 2016, 05:02:36 PM
Rob,
Sorry all my vfds have gone to good homes....sad really, as I had to pay full wack for one for my new shiny 626 mill... :lol:

1269 rupees? How much is that in beer tokens.... :lol:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 16, 2016, 05:09:11 PM
Hi John

No wonder at the price you where knocking them out at   :headbang:


Quote
1269 rupees? How much is that in beer tokens....

About 15 quid  :lol: :lol:

Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RussellT on November 17, 2016, 06:15:58 AM
Hi Rob

What are you going to keep in that wasted space in the corner between the cupboards?   :D

Russell
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 17, 2016, 03:34:38 PM
Hi Rob

What are you going to keep in that wasted space in the corner between the cupboards?   :D

Russell

Hi Russell 

I dont know ,just live with it I suppose   :palm: , any ideas ? 

Cheers Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Manxmodder on November 17, 2016, 03:44:44 PM
You have to have a little space somewhere for a contemplation stool or chair......OZ
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 17, 2016, 03:49:33 PM
You have to have a little space somewhere for a contemplation stool or chair......OZ

Thats down the  Pub OZ  :beer:

This is a 300mm/ 1ft  square we are talking about ,way to small for my fat arse  :lol:


Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Pete W. on November 17, 2016, 04:15:29 PM
Hi Rob

What are you going to keep in that wasted space in the corner between the cupboards?   :D

Russell
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RussellT on November 17, 2016, 05:47:05 PM
any ideas ? 

  :doh: I should have seen that coming.

Here goes - it has to be something that can be accessed from the bottom or a slim space at the top.  How about rags for wiping up - they could be pulled out through a suitable hole.  Or a kitchen roll - or something similar but larger.  Are there any liquids you use a lot - a tank for something?

I have a smaller space behind shelves created by a pier on the wall and I've got an old fire extinguisher in there as an air receiver.  You could probably get an old gas bottle in your space as an air receiver - with a drain on the bottom.

Russell
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: DMIOM on November 18, 2016, 04:24:03 AM
.....  Are there any liquids you use a lot - a tank for something?.......

Could you mount a polypin of (operator) coolant? (only to be used after the end of the working day of course)  :beer:

Dave
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: AdeV on November 18, 2016, 09:27:28 AM

I dont know ,just live with it I suppose   :palm: , any ideas ? 


Could you stand tall bar-stock in that corner, using the cupboards as a "lean-to" to prevent them from falling over/rolling away? Welding rods maybe?
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: John Rudd on November 18, 2016, 10:00:13 AM
Hi John

No wonder at the price you where knocking them out at   :headbang:




Rob

Ah that was the mates rates price.... :beer: :clap:

How about a small stove for those cold wintry days like today...? Brrr

My feet are freezing after spending all morning at the lathe making swarf from a 6" bar......
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 18, 2016, 01:01:06 PM
 :lol: Cheers Lads


I think I will just stuff long things up the hole , and let the space develop into a spider farm  :lol:


Quote
Ah that was the mates rates price.... :beer: :clap:

How about a small stove for those cold wintry days like today...? Brrr

My feet are freezing after spending all morning at the lathe making swarf from a 6" bar......

What you need is a rubber mat John , much much mach MUCH ! better to stand on than cold concrete  ,well unless you fit a hypocaust  :dremel:

Well if you come across any more giz a nudge mate  :poke: , as I am thinking of using the VFD and motor on my long dead 626 CNC conversion  :zap:

Rob

Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Pete W. on November 18, 2016, 02:18:57 PM
:lol: Cheers Lads


I think I will just stuff long things up the hole , and let the space develop into a spider farm  :lol:

SNIP

Rob

It's not a real farm if you just let things happen - you ask Andrew!   :lol:   :ddb:   :lol:   :ddb:   :lol:   :ddb: 
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 19, 2016, 12:01:11 PM
Evening Chaps ,

I found a place to mount the last two cabinets today , the location  :palm:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140332_zps2qgcvhsk.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140332_zps2qgcvhsk.jpg.html)

A bit  of prep required ,remove air pipe ,socket and the crap lying about the area .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140343_zpsiciy8ny9.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140343_zpsiciy8ny9.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140341_zpshwzkn2h4.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140341_zpshwzkn2h4.jpg.html)

I had to cut a section  out of one of them as it covers were the power and air comes in from the other shop , also the new three phase supply will come thought there as well .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140344_zpstgdqk5jx.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140344_zpstgdqk5jx.jpg.html)

Still lots to do around the shop  :dremel:

Cheers Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Brass_Machine on November 20, 2016, 12:04:26 AM
Wow Rob. I am supper impressed with what you are doing in your shop. Making quite the progress there!

Eric
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 21, 2016, 03:43:35 PM
Cheers Eric  :beer:

Still allot to do  :Doh: I would rather be machining ,but needs must .  My three phase DB arrived today and having no room to store it thought I may as well stick it up on the wall .

The Feng shui meter says it looks good here . :med:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140349_zpsdu7crc6a.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140349_zpsdu7crc6a.jpg.html)

The panel still needs populating  ,I only have the two 16 amp MCB's at the moment one for lathe and other for the new compressor .

 I was  planning on doing the wiring over the end of year  holidays ,so that gives me a month to collect the rest of the gear .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140351_zpszm8mif4a.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140351_zpszm8mif4a.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140352_zpsbuzfukpu.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140352_zpsbuzfukpu.jpg.html)

I have mounted the panel about 30mm off the wall so I can drop cables down the back .


Rob  :beer:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: awemawson on November 21, 2016, 03:47:56 PM
Rob, one of the best decisions I took setting out my workshop was to run 100 x 50 trunking round all the walls - makes wiring installation and later inevitable changes a breeze
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 21, 2016, 04:00:01 PM
Rob, one of the best decisions I took setting out my workshop was to run 100 x 50 trunking round all the walls - makes wiring installation and later inevitable changes a breeze

I am still pondering how to run the cables  Andrew   , Did you go plastic or steel trunking ? 

I have about 70 meters of 2.5mm 4 core SY cable that I will be using ,,,,,,,,,,,,, , Just because I got it free  .

Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Will_D on November 21, 2016, 05:25:26 PM
Ah So Grasshopper, No wonder your shop looks so tidy!

Can you please post the link to the "Feng Shui  Meter" - its one piece of test equipment I don't have!

I have heard that some wives have some sort of ability in this area :Doh:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: awemawson on November 21, 2016, 05:31:03 PM
Rob, at the time I couldn't find steel trunking at a sensible price that was rectangular rather than square - and a 4" square is too far off the wall in many cases, so I went with plastic:


https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Trunking_Pvc_Index/Maxi_42/index.html
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Spurry on November 21, 2016, 06:21:22 PM
Have to agree with Andrew about the trunking idea. I used 50x50 which is adequate for my smaller needs. Pic shows job half-way through.
Pete
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 23, 2016, 03:38:49 PM
Hi Andrew ,Pete

Well I have had a ponder on the use of trunking and its not going to happen , I would need way  to many bends :(  . So I may just get a few lengths of cable tray , mmm still pondering  :scratch:

Cheers ,Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: jb3cx on November 23, 2016, 07:21:15 PM
Evening rob ,don't know the legal side of this ,anyway for what it's worth ,one of my mates came around this afternoon,he had a visit from an electrical inspector from the local council thismorning ,
He basically condemned the ring main in his workshop,what he said was that all electrical cables from the floor up to a certain height had to be in conduit.the reason being that if any metal fell on the cable and damaged it ,it would then be live ,that's the reason he gave him ,
He said it would take about 3 to 4 weeks before his report would be acted upon ,then they would send someone out to see if he had put in the conduit,if he doesn't comply they will cut off his supply to the workshop ,then he would have to get some sort of certificate before they would reconnect the power to his workshop.one of the other things the guy pointed out to him was that if he had a fire and put in a claim to his insurance company,it could be void if he hadn't complied with local building regs .
Hope this helps to make your mind up .
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: hermetic on November 24, 2016, 08:31:52 AM
Hi Rob and all! I have been pondering the self same question, as am about half way through taking all the wiring out of my ceilings so I can insulate and board them, and not need to be in to make the inevitable additions. What I am going to do is dry line and insulate the walls in the workshop with 1" x 2" treated timber, and 2" of jablite, and I shall have a 3" deep trunking round the walls at ceiling level with seperate narrow covers on, but constructed with timber as part of the dry lining process. I will then drop out of the edge of the extra inch with 20mm black pvc conduit.

JB3CX, where are you in the world, it is not like council inspectors to pop round unannounced or uninvited. Having said that, it makes perfect sense, to protect cables which are in the working area, and PVC conduit looks good, and is easy to fix, and quite cheap.
Phil
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Pete W. on November 24, 2016, 08:52:15 AM
Hi there, Phil,

Before you pay out on your insulation, I suggest that you research the relative flammabilities of Jablite vs Kingspan/Cellotex.

Jablite is, as far as I know, a trade name for polystyrene foam.  I remember that, at one time, there was a fashion for applying expanded polystyrene tiles to ceilings.  That practice fell out of fashion when it became evident that, in the event of a fire, the tiles melted and took light and dropped burning molten polystyrene on to whatever was below!

I'm not saying that Kingspan/Cellotex insulation is fireproof - I'm just recommending you to research the matter and to make an informed decision. 
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: awemawson on November 24, 2016, 09:13:04 AM
Also polystyrene in contact with pvc insulation has a long term reaction. It came to light when people laid insulation in lofts on top of existing cables - the two bond together so one or the other is dissolving the other or one  :scratch:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: appletree on November 24, 2016, 09:52:56 AM
Its called polymer migration, sometimes new electrical items suffer from it when packed in polystyrene. When Polystyrene ceiling tiles were all the rage people were injured having painted them with gloss paint which caused a melt down.

Phil
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 24, 2016, 10:06:21 AM
Afternoon Chaps 

It would have been nice to run conduit but it is not so practical in my workshop  :palm: so  I have decided that I  will just  run the cables around the workshop at ceiling height (above the wall cabinets)   as I dont have much option and then drop the cable  down to each machine  .

I will be securing the   cables with Bluetack ,gaffa tape and tacks  , any venerable areas I will make sure the insulation is bared back  :zap: .

Rob


Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: John Rudd on November 24, 2016, 10:48:07 AM
Do you mean 'vulnerable' ?

"Bluetack"?...... Thought you would have made some sky hooks for it to hang from?
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 24, 2016, 11:50:52 AM
Do you mean 'vulnerable' ?

"Bluetack"?...... Thought you would have made some sky hooks for it to hang from?


 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Aye that what I meant  :thumbup:  ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,  :Doh: 

Sky hooks are so last year mate , Blu tack is the in thing  :dremel:


Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Manxmodder on November 24, 2016, 05:33:40 PM
 I will be securing the   cables with Bluetack ,gaffa tape and tacks

Well,if you're nailing the cables to the wall be sure to place the tacks right in the centre of the cable. That way you can be certain the protruding head of the tacks are adequately earthed...I'm sure the Council building bobby will be well impressed with your attention to elf and safety  :lol:.....OZ.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: jb3cx on November 24, 2016, 05:40:09 PM
In answer to hermetic  I'm in the north east (Sunderland) the house my mate lives in belongs to the council,apparently every few years the houses are picked at random for an inspection ,just to see that the tennents are keeping the property in good order as per the tenancy agreement,in 25 years this is the first time he has had them in .the inspection team had some concerns about the wiring ,and they sent out the guy to inspect the workshop wiring,
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: SwarfnStuff on November 25, 2016, 12:01:17 AM
Just reading through the various posts re. wiring, are you actually able to wire your workshop? Here in OZ anything to do with the power (240V AC  :zap:) must be done by a qualified, certified, registered, expensive electrician. And you will pay extra for a certificate of compliance that you will possibly never actually receive.
      Similarly with Plumbers, they are a protected species and whilst I have never heard of anyone getting into strife for changing a tap washer I think we're not supposed to do that either according to the letter of the regulations.
Ah rools and regs, don't you just love em?
      To be fair though, it is easy to kill someone with dodgy wiring.
John B
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: hermetic on November 25, 2016, 05:24:44 PM
Hi Rob and all,  Ah! it's a council house, just a bit of bad luck then, but sensible idea to protect the cable. Yes PeteW, I have looked into it, and I have fitted a lot of Kingspan and cellotex, but generally someone else has been paying for it! Jablite is now "self-extinguishing" whereas kingspan and cellotex, are "fire retardent", but at the end of the day, they both burn, and the jablite lasts better than kingspan/cellotex, because the foil film on the expensive stuff is there not only to reflect radiated heat (of which, in most houses there is very little anyway) but also to maintain the gas pockets in the foam to give it its 25 year lifespan. By the time the insulation catches fire, I would be in the next county anyway!. Andrew, yes I know about the polystyrene/pvc reaction, and it doesnt take that long as I have seen some bits of recent loft wiring alredy melting into the polystyrene, which is one of the reasons all the wiring is coming out of the roof space. In the domestic end of the building, (which is an early victorian 2up and 2down now reroofed, windowed and pointed, well neartly) all the loft wiring is clipped out of the way.

Swarfnstuff, well I used to be that qualified and certified registered (but nowhere near expensive enough) electrician, but to be honest, wiring most worshop systems is hardly rocket science, there is a lot of information out there on how to do it properly, and it MUST be done properly! and in the UK today, lots of people are coming out of the armed forces with no experience in any engineering discipline and paying between £3500 and £5000 to be trained as domestic electricians in 5 WEEKS!  I did a five year apprenticship and 3 years at Tech college!
Phil
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: John Rudd on November 25, 2016, 05:42:27 PM
Phil,
Although I'm not a qualified spark, I did a four yr apprenticeship plus college as an instrument tech at ICI, so there is some overlap in trades....I worked with my brother many yrs ago who was a spark, on some housing estate doing rewires.... It was hard graft then in the 80's 
So those coming out of the forces and paying £3-1/2k to do house bashing are welcome to it....it aint easy... I wonder how many of them can do volt drop calcs for cables?
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: hermetic on November 25, 2016, 06:06:11 PM
Hi John, well they are supposed to teach them the rudiments of cook book electrical calcs, but they get coached through the exam anyway, so what difference does it make? I still do a bit of domestic work, but was mainly on industrial and agricultural installs and maintenance for most of my electrical career, and when part P came in, it was a good excuse to refuse the work, although I got my arm twisted by a mate, and did a big part P install under the watchfull eye of the local BCO Elec, who outranks me as he has an HNC to my NC, it was another year of Tech that I should have done, but couldnt face another year squinting at a guessing stick (slide rule) as in those days an electronic calculator cost about 5 weeks wages! TBH I don't think anyone does any calculations for volt drop for domestic installs, and much of what gets put on completion certificates is made up on the fly rather than the results of a ridiculously complex and totally unneccasary testing regime, which seems more designed to cover the sparkies backside rather than achieve a high level of safety. The blind reliance on mcb/rcd/rcbo (none of which fail safe) technology is going to burn houses down in the future! The electrical trade is in gradual meltdown.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: hermetic on November 25, 2016, 06:22:13 PM
Just to add John, I was part of a two man team who rewired 135 village council houses in E yorks in the seventies, a job that paid quite well, but as you say, extremely hard as we found to our horror that the walls are rendered and skimmed internally, and in the days of hammer and bolster for chases, you would bash away for five minutes getting nowhere, then a square meter of rendering would fall of the wall! We drilled top and bottom and moused the cables down the cavities. Some of these houses were wired just after ww2 and seemed to be wired in anything thaty was handy that would just about conduct electricity. Came across a few where the lighting circuits were wired entirely in that purple cotton covered twisted flex (light drop flex) and all the junction boxes were old lead covered type, with scruit connectors!
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: SwarfnStuff on November 26, 2016, 01:04:24 AM
Hermetic, I seem to recall that in New South Wales here, there was a domestic license training course that allowed you to work on wiring in your own home.
      I do have a friendly sparky though so that helps.
John B
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 26, 2016, 10:39:14 AM
Afternoon Lads

Well I thought I would try out a few cable fixing methods today , knocked up a wee sample  :dremel:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140360_zpsrtvldtd8.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140360_zpsrtvldtd8.jpg.html)


I think "D" is a bit extravagant as bent nails ain't  cheep .



Rob
 
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: philf on November 26, 2016, 11:27:21 AM
Rob,

All look good to me!  :lol:

Phil.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: appletree on November 26, 2016, 11:30:21 AM
I think A or B are the most secure, A having the advantage that concrete and the like can be drilled for wall plugs.
Joking aside although meant for SWA cables these work well for SY cables too.
http://www.screwfix.com/c/electrical-lighting/cable-clips/cat830572

Phil
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: John Rudd on November 26, 2016, 12:41:18 PM
Rob,
None of your fixing methods involve welding? Is that something you deliberately avoided or some other reason?  Even though sky hooks are so retro, they make fixing cables to by welding so much easier in my experience.... :lol:

If nails are considered too expensive, how about the Hilti gun method?... :) :) :lol: :zap:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: krv3000 on November 26, 2016, 01:12:08 PM
a is good for me
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Joe d on November 26, 2016, 01:19:44 PM
Rob...

This is a perfect opportunity to fire up the forge and make some nice HAND FORGED sky hooks :lol: :lol: :lol:

Cheers, Joe
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Manxmodder on November 26, 2016, 01:36:45 PM
a is good for me

'B' looks like it may provide a more positive fixing method :zap:

OZ.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: howsitwork? on November 26, 2016, 02:29:42 PM
Where are you going to get enough hands to hold the bits of wood all round the workshop? :lol: :lol: :lol: Also how do you plan to attach the hands to the walls?

I used plastic trunking to drop from ceiling level and put a few extra metal clad sockets in. I did but still have had to alter the ring main to put in more as machines have been relocated to fit more in.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: awemawson on November 26, 2016, 02:36:46 PM
When I converted my barn to a workshop I ran trunking all round then put double 13a sockets every metre. Before the machines moved in we had a barn dance, and guests couldn't believe I needed so many sockets - well I do, and in places I've added more  :lol:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Spurry on November 26, 2016, 03:13:11 PM
..... put double 13a sockets every metre. Before the machines moved in we had a barn dance, and guests couldn't believe I needed so many sockets - well I do, and in places I've added more  :lol:
Quite right too.  :thumbup:
Pete
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: AdeV on November 26, 2016, 04:49:01 PM
Option "B" is my favourite - very tidy, the nail blends in champion like, and doesn't seem to shred the insulation like "A". The other advantage is, if it all goes a bit wrong, you can convert it into option "C"  :beer:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: DMIOM on November 26, 2016, 05:52:44 PM
Rob, None of your fixing methods involve welding? ....

Actually, I think methods A and B might result in localised welding between the cores?   :zap:

Dave
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Brass_Machine on November 27, 2016, 12:12:00 AM
Personally, I like "D" 100MPH tape fixes anything!
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Manxmodder on November 27, 2016, 01:52:18 PM
We needn't make any more clever suggestions....I think Rob already has this one nailed.......OZ.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Toolshed on November 27, 2016, 01:54:16 PM
Rob Wilson, how dare you ever let me show my teen-aged son that we can have fun on this board!!!!

He is working (hopefully apprenticing) with an electrician here.  I thought he could see that folk like us actually have senses of humor....

Signed,
Yet another Rob....Who likes to Alliterate Almost Anything....

Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: hermetic on November 29, 2016, 04:59:58 PM
How about some of this!
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 30, 2016, 08:49:46 AM
 :lol: :lol: You lot crack me up  :lol: :lol:

I really like that early trunk ing     :clap: :clap: , now where did i put my router  :dremel:



Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Manxmodder on November 30, 2016, 12:05:19 PM
 Nobody has suggested banging in some fencing wire staples yet.So I will  :hammer:

OZ.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on November 30, 2016, 12:27:47 PM
Nobody has suggested banging in some fencing wire staples yet.So I will  :hammer:

OZ.

 :lol: Arh! look close Oz ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,sample  "E"    :thumbup: 


Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Manxmodder on November 30, 2016, 02:05:13 PM
 :Doh: ....OZ.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on December 03, 2016, 08:38:13 AM
Afternoon Chaps  :wave:


Just a wee update, I now have nearly all the gear I need for the  workshop 3 phase wiring , just a few more 3P MCB's ,one more isolator  should about do it .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140362_zps6oeraler.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140362_zps6oeraler.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140364_zpslciscien.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140364_zpslciscien.jpg.html)

Rob  :zap:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: krv3000 on December 03, 2016, 01:00:24 PM
brill
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Biggles on December 04, 2016, 03:34:54 PM
Great. :coffee:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: DMIOM on December 04, 2016, 04:07:07 PM
Just how many Xmas lights are you going to have in/around your workshop?  :bugeye:

Dave
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on December 05, 2016, 03:39:51 PM
Now there is a thing Dave  :lol: , never planed for shop fairy lights ,it could get very trippy  :med:


Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: AdeV on December 05, 2016, 05:29:24 PM
Quote
it could get very trippy

Just nail 'em to the ceiling Rob, trip hazard averted!  :lol: :scratch: :scratch: :bang:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on December 06, 2016, 01:22:48 AM
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: good one Ade  :thumbup:


Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on December 27, 2016, 12:42:52 PM
Evening Chaps,  :wave:

Thought I would remodel the shop today, and join shop 1 to shop 2 as I was getting sick of walking back and forth between the two and also heating two shops is a pain. :med:

So the join will be here on this side, the milling cutter wall cabinet will need relocating doh!

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140372_zpsbxoqwfvq.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140372_zpsbxoqwfvq.jpg.html)

And all this will need moving on the other side, and one of the new wall cabinets will also need relocating  Doh!

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140375_zpshdbgzhbv.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140375_zpshdbgzhbv.jpg.html)

Crap moved and two sections of concrete panel removed.

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140378_zpstj153ldd.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140378_zpstj153ldd.jpg.html)

Next, the brickwork was removed.

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140382_zpsxtdz6axx.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140382_zpsxtdz6axx.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140383_zpsm0rnousn.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140383_zpsm0rnousn.jpg.html)

The old doorway into shop 1 will be bricked up later in the year.  So tomorrow I will need to clean the brickwork up and brick up the gap between the two shops.  :dremel:



Cheers Rob



Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: John Rudd on December 27, 2016, 01:21:53 PM
Nicly done Rob... Neat and tidy...and no mess....'Er-indoors'  would  be impressed.....

Merry xmas by the way... :beer:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on December 27, 2016, 01:34:18 PM
Nicly done Rob... Neat and tidy...and no mess....'Er-indoors'  would  be impressed.....

Merry xmas by the way... :beer:


Aye all the best John  :beer:  :thumbup:


Rob.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Spurry on December 27, 2016, 03:48:03 PM
Rob
Neat job you've done there. What's the secret to not breaking any of the brick teeth remaining in the wall? Did you have to cut the mortar away with disc/drill?
Looks like the original brickie made a half decent job of the bonding too.  :thumbup:
Pete
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on December 28, 2016, 05:52:44 PM
Hi Pete  :wave:

Apologies for the slow reply, I missed your post, :scratch:    I used a 4lb club hammer, and a combination of plugging chisel and bolster chisel to remove the brickwork, I also took my time.

I decided against using an angle grinder due to the dust it would have created, it was dusty enough using a hammer and chisel.

Well, I got the brickwork and bricks cleaned up today, so hopefully,  I can get things bricked up tomorrow.   :dremel:


Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: howsitwork? on December 28, 2016, 06:10:58 PM
Rob 

that spray foam is great as an insulating layer so give yourself a bit of space to spray it in :thumbup:

Very impressive set up. I shall have to show SWMBO - someone has more g clamps as me  :headbang:
 Not sure about the chains though, looks a bit kinky :lol:

Is that  braising hearth and extractor on the far wall? Or just highly decorative storage space ? :D
Have a Happy New Year mate.

Ian
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: micktoon on December 29, 2016, 07:23:52 AM
Hi Rob , looks like nice neat job there  :thumbup: .Like you say should make life a lot easier rather than walking in and out all the time. Are you planning on fitting frame and door or just having the two shos connected with the opening? I was just wondering about one half being the grinding , forging area and the other cleaner machining area.
  Your making good progress overall though  :thumbup:

 Cheers Mick
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Brass_Machine on December 29, 2016, 11:02:06 PM
Looking good Rob!  :headbang:

You have given me something else to aspire to!

Eric
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on December 30, 2016, 02:58:04 PM
Cheers Lads  :beer:

Hi Ian, aye the workshop is a bit of a **** tip at the moment  :palm:  with gear stacked everywhere but needs must.

Well, that's the walls built.

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140387_zpszgvp2mai.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140387_zpszgvp2mai.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140389_zps9dhxa3g2.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140389_zps9dhxa3g2.jpg.html)

Just need some sticky stuff to fill the gap between wall and concrete panel.

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140391_zpsx9rthp7t.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140391_zpsx9rthp7t.jpg.html)

The floor has been made good.

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140392_zps5h4pbzo9.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140392_zps5h4pbzo9.jpg.html)

And I whacked in a new power cable to the workshop, it now comes into the rear of an isolator switch then from that to a junction box where the supply gets split.

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140396_zpsyqnktt2w.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140396_zpsyqnktt2w.jpg.html)

Now I can isolate the workshop from within the shop instead of having to turn the power off in the house.  :zap:


Cheers Rob.  :headbang:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: krv3000 on December 30, 2016, 03:00:38 PM
brill
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: SwarfnStuff on December 31, 2016, 01:22:59 AM
Great modification Rob.
   What about expanding foam goo for the gaps? Can be trimmed flush with a knife?
Or as I have seen industrially, stuff foam rubber / plastic into the gap depressed about 12mm or so then plonking mastic on the surface. Either would seem to work from sitting here in front of my PC in OZ.

John B
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on December 31, 2016, 05:38:24 AM
Cheers Bob  :beer:


Hi John, 

  For some reason, I never get good results with expanding foam. I like your idea of stuffing some foam rubber into the gap first,  :thumbup:   I have had to order mastic as all the local big box stores just sell silicon sealant.


Rob.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: doubleboost on December 31, 2016, 05:40:51 PM
You can not beat the old methods
Proper mastic sealer
Shop is really taking shape now
John
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Manxmodder on December 31, 2016, 05:56:22 PM
Cheers Bob  :beer:


Hi John, 

  For some reason, I never get good results with expanding foam. I like your idea of stuffing some foam rubber into the gap first,  :thumbup:   I have had to order mastic as all the local big box stores just sell silicon sealant.


Rob.

Trick with successful foam application is to use a proper foam gun and not the crap that's sold with a plastic nozzle on the can.

The guns have a finely adjustable needle valve making it easy to get exactly the right delivery flow rate for the task in hand.

Like this one,but may be cheaper alternatives on ebay....OZ.
http://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-foam-applicator-gun/28483?kpid=28483&cm_mmc=Google-_-Product%20Listing%20Ads-_-Sales%20Tracking-_-sales%20tracking%20url&gclid=Cj0KEQiAy53DBRCo4en29Zvcla0BEiQAVIDcc9jKTbttFbn9zMQHz5BoGdO5cWatwPbwy4Nr6HwY7J0aAiB38P8HAQ
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Spurry on December 31, 2016, 06:11:56 PM
I think the trick with the foam, is not to try and fill a large empty void, like a gap between two walls.
If you can only leave one side open and form a back to the gap (getting poetic now) for example, by closing off with some polystyrene sheet, the foam has three sides to stick to, and it seems to work so much better.
Pete
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Manxmodder on December 31, 2016, 06:21:16 PM
Agree,Pete. That is definitely the way to go with any gap wider than 25mm,narrower gaps can easily be bridged by using a side to side arc movement very much like welding a stack of dimes pattern.

I should also mention that excess foam that expands outside the edge of the workpiece can be pressed back into the void if you judge the setting point just right. Just takes a bit of practice and a disposable rubber glove.

OZ.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: howsitwork? on December 31, 2016, 06:30:02 PM
Rob

I'd follow the crowd and use expanding foam with a decent foam gun. The metal ones ( about 10 ) are worth the money as you can clean out with solvent and re use. I have no regrets about buying one. WEAR GLOVES though or else write off the sweatshirt and jeans by wiping hands on them ( or is that just me??? :scratch:)

Really like the idea of power isolation in shop for the big stuff. I assume that's to cut off the 3 phase?

Coming along really well. :clap: :clap: :clap:

Happy New Year. :beer:

Ian
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Manxmodder on December 31, 2016, 06:38:44 PM
Tell you a funny tale that happened to me earlier this year when using foam.

In an old lighthouse generator room and there I am using expanding fire grade foam to fill a breakthrough void in the partition wall, between engine room and store room next door, where cables had been run through.

Anyway,I've spent a couple of minutes slowly filling the void and stood back to let it expand and set.

Next thing a workmate opens the door leading to outside,in rushes a gust of wind,pressurises the room and ball of unset sticky foam is blasted out of the hole and across the storeroom next door and right into my mates open toolbox.

He laughed at me only until he realised where it had landed.

OZ.

Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: micktoon on December 31, 2016, 07:26:27 PM
Made me laugh Oz, I can just picture the scene, could have been worse if it landed in his hair  :lol:
cheers Mick 👍
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: krv3000 on January 01, 2017, 01:54:09 PM
ar the method for the cheep stuff use bin bags put the bag in the cavity put the nozzle in the top of the bag then fill   
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on January 01, 2017, 03:01:34 PM
Rob
Really like the idea of power isolation in shop for the big stuff. I assume that's to cut off the 3 phase?


Ian

Hi Ian,  The Isolator cuts the 240v supply from the house, the phase converter will take a supply from that.  :zap:



Cheers for all the gap filling advice chaps  :thumbup: , I will call into screwfix later in the week and grab one of those guns and a tin of foam, in the past, I just used the cans with the straw attached .


All the best Lads  :beer:


Rob


PS if it all goes tits up I will be blaming OZ  :coffee:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on January 02, 2017, 12:00:45 PM
Evening Chaps,  :wave:


I nipped out to Screwfix this morning and picked up some spray foam. :dremel:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140400_zpsz114sm3c.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140400_zpsz114sm3c.jpg.html)

And it works a charm, allot better, just as you lads said it would.  :thumbup:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140399_zpsr5ek6gib.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140399_zpsr5ek6gib.jpg.html)

Very controllable and allot less mess, actually no mess at all, I also picked up a can of cleaner, it was only a couple of quid.

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140404_zpsvkdzba4x.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140404_zpsvkdzba4x.jpg.html)

Do any of you lads have any good tips for trimming back the foam? 


I also made good above the doorway, new socket, airline that sort of thing.

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140409_zpsyl4cjejm.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140409_zpsyl4cjejm.jpg.html)

And the milling cutter cabinet has a new home, across the old doorway.

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140413_zpszmw0wc54.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140413_zpszmw0wc54.jpg.html)


Cheers, Rob.




Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: awemawson on January 02, 2017, 12:05:59 PM
Trim foam back with an angle grinder with a thin cutting disk.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: philf on January 02, 2017, 01:28:47 PM

Do any of you lads have any good tips for trimming back the foam? 


Hi Rob,

Looking good!  :thumbup:

I use a snap-off knife with the blade fully extended.

By the way - I've just made some space to get the CNC Hobbymat I got from you out of the garage and into the workshop! It might still be a long time before it's cutting metal though!

Cheers.

Phil.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: chipenter on January 02, 2017, 02:35:29 PM
A hacksaw blade works well just be gentle .
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: doubleboost on January 02, 2017, 06:23:53 PM
A Kitchen "bread Knife" is perfect
Just dont get caught
How did you seal the 2 roofs
John
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on January 03, 2017, 09:32:22 AM

Hi Rob,
By the way - I've just made some space to get the CNC Hobbymat I got from you out of the garage and into the workshop! It might still be a long time before it's cutting metal though!

Phil.

Hi Phil, well at least it has now moved into the workshop  :thumbup: , It must be a few years since you pick the machine up from me, Are you going Mach 3, Linux CNC or one of those Banggood CNC controllers for the retrofit? Anyway looking forward to seeing what you do to it.


Rob.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: philf on January 03, 2017, 10:03:36 AM

Hi Rob,
By the way - I've just made some space to get the CNC Hobbymat I got from you out of the garage and into the workshop! It might still be a long time before it's cutting metal though!

Phil.

Hi Phil, well at least it has now moved into the workshop  :thumbup: , It must be a few years since you pick the machine up from me, Are you going Mach 3, Linux CNC or one of those Banggood CNC controllers for the retrofit? Anyway looking forward to seeing what you do to it.


Rob.

Hi Rob,

Mach3 for now. I already have a licensed copy from my CNC mill. I've had the stepper drivers and break-out board since shortly after picking it up. (It was July 2013!)

I wish I could try the Linux CNC route but I had a go with Linux on an old laptop a couple of years ago and it's just too 'nerdy' for me. Some swear by it but it seems so much more complicated than DOS or Windows. It certainly wasn't just a case of popping a CD in and automatically installing and running it. (It may be now?)

I've ripped all the old control out of the lathe as it was designed to run on a BBC computer and apparently the software was not very good.

All that will remain is the motor driver and maybe the power supply.

I did get a new 3-jaw for it with inside and outside jaws.

Any nearer getting back on with your CNC mill?

Cheers.

Phil.

Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on January 03, 2017, 03:30:22 PM
Hi Phil,

               (It was July 2013!) you say, where does time go!

Quote
Any nearer getting back on with your CNC mill?


I still have a fair bit to do around the shop before I can get back on with the 626 CNC conversion or any other project come to that, the new additions to the shop need a bit TLC and there are wiring and the likes still to do. So with any luck, I could be back on with it around about March-ish.

Maybe I may have my CNC project done before yours.  :palm:





Rob



Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: AdeV on January 03, 2017, 04:00:02 PM

I wish I could try the Linux CNC route but I had a go with Linux on an old laptop a couple of years ago and it's just too 'nerdy' for me. Some swear by it but it seems so much more complicated than DOS or Windows. It certainly wasn't just a case of popping a CD in and automatically installing and running it. (It may be now?)


Hi Phil,

Linux has improved leaps and bounds, depending on whether your "couple of years ago" was actually 2 years ago, or more like 5-10 years ago.... I've installed Linux Mint on a few laptops now, and in general it's been very simple, with the desktop being ready in anything from 10 minutes to about 45, depending on the hardware. Worth trying again, if you have a spare machine lying about.

As for the "nerdiness" of Linux itself - yes, it's definitely more of a "hands on" OS than Windows, but most things can be accomplished without resorting to a terminal window these days (or, in Windows parlance, a DOS box). Avoid the likes of CentOS though, or anything RedHat based; they're more industrial strength Linuxes than Ubuntu or Mint (both Debian-based), but I find them harder to manage and less intuitive through the UI.

At home, I now use nothing but Linux. Still using Windows 7 at work, and apart from the fact my network card is slowly dying, I've so far had not had to re-install my machine (unlike my Windows 10 colleague, who is up to 2 rebuilds now)...
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: philf on January 04, 2017, 04:29:06 AM
Hi Ade,

It probably wasn't much more than 2 -3 years ago and I think it was Mint I tried.

From memory it still wasn't that straightforward (for me anyway) and the download didn't create a useable OS without some messing about. I remember having to create partitions and there was something to with GRUB (whatever that was) I had to sort. The laptop really was old - something like a 233MHz Dell and very little memory - and it was incredibly slow. I did a complete wipe of the hard drive and took it up to a local charity shop.

I've just binned the last of my old PCs to earn some brownie points with my wife. Perhaps I'll get one of the very cheap small form factor Dells off eBay and try again.

Mach3 can only use a one pulse per rev encoder on the spindle so threading can be hit or miss particularly if you don't have much spindle power and the speed can vary. I think LinuxCNC can take an input from a multi ppr encoder which gives a much more reliable result.

I've still got a 6" Abwood vice waiting here (for your shaper?) if you still want it.

Cheers.

Phil.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: philf on January 04, 2017, 04:32:02 AM
Hi Phil,

               (It was July 2013!) you say, where does time go!

Quote
Any nearer getting back on with your CNC mill?

Maybe I may have my CNC project done before yours.  :palm:

Rob

Hi Rob,

You may well be right or maybe that's enough to spur me on to getting it done!

Cheers.

Phil.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: awemawson on January 04, 2017, 04:35:09 AM
I downloaded Mint and it all went very smoothly - the download was an ISO CD image which ran pretty well automatically. It was intended as a base for LINUX/CNC which was where it all went pear shaped.

There seem to be so many oddly named files / processes / systems whose names seem to be chosen to confuse what with gits and grubs and the like I gave it up as a bad job and reluctantly crawled back to Windows 7  :bugeye:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: AdeV on January 04, 2017, 06:55:14 AM
Hi Ade,

It probably wasn't much more than 2 -3 years ago and I think it was Mint I tried.

From memory it still wasn't that straightforward (for me anyway) and the download didn't create a useable OS without some messing about. I remember having to create partitions and there was something to with GRUB (whatever that was) I had to sort. The laptop really was old - something like a 233MHz Dell and very little memory - and it was incredibly slow. I did a complete wipe of the hard drive and took it up to a local charity shop.


Maybe, if the computer was that ancient, some of the HW drivers were no longer in the distribution. Dunno... I've not had any problems installing Linux on newer HW - a super-cheap Lenovo laptop I got for about £100, and my main desktop which is some no-name brand (cheap off eBuyer). I've built numerous virtual machines as well, they're a doddle of course, much easier than "real" hardware...



I've just binned the last of my old PCs to earn some brownie points with my wife. Perhaps I'll get one of the very cheap small form factor Dells off eBay and try again.


Why not look at the latest Raspberry Pi? Performance of the Pi 3 will easily eclipse the old Dell, the "Model B" has great connectivity, and of course we know it works well with Linux (it's also supposed to be able to run Windows 10, but I've not done any reading up on how well it does it). Plus at £35ish, you can probably get it from the workshop slush fund without 'er indoors ever finding out (also it's small and easily hidden  :lol:).


I've still got a 6" Abwood vice waiting here (for your shaper?) if you still want it.


Crumbs, I forgot all about that... Tell you what, I'll swap you a Raspberry Pi 3 for it... I could call in Sunday I think, if you're around (after that, it'll be February sometime).
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: John Rudd on January 04, 2017, 07:40:37 AM


Plus at £35ish, you can probably get it from the workshop slush fund without 'er indoors ever finding out (also it's small and easily hidden  :lol:).

Hmmm.....you try hiding summat from my missus..... :lol:    See my signature.... :clap:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: philf on January 04, 2017, 11:43:09 AM


I've still got a 6" Abwood vice waiting here (for your shaper?) if you still want it.


Crumbs, I forgot all about that... Tell you what, I'll swap you a Raspberry Pi 3 for it... I could call in Sunday I think, if you're around (after that, it'll be February sometime).

Hi Ade,

But how do I get from a Pi to a breakout board without a parallel port. Or can LinuxCNC communicate by normal i/o pins? I haven't gone into it that much as I got nowhere with Linux.

I already have the previous Pi version which is similar to the 3 but without Bluetooth and WiFi.

A vice for a Pi 3 - thanks for the offer but it would probably sit on a shelf doing nothing.

The vice is the large opening version of the 6" Abwood. It opens to about 165mm. It's pretty heavy so bring a truss when you collect it.

There is also swivel base for it when I can find it. I've just been grovelling in the cellar and I knew where the base was - once upon a time - but not now!

If it's not raining, snowing or icy on Sunday we'll be out cycling until about 3:30pm - after then would be fine. Almost any other day would be OK.

I'll have another good look for the base - I'll never use it even though I have the standard 6" Abwood as well. My little Aciera mill isn't really built for such a vice - especially with the base. I have a 4" version which is more in keeping.

Cheers.

Phil.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: philf on January 04, 2017, 11:44:55 AM
I downloaded Mint and it all went very smoothly - the download was an ISO CD image which ran pretty well automatically. It was intended as a base for LINUX/CNC which was where it all went pear shaped.

There seem to be so many oddly named files / processes / systems whose names seem to be chosen to confuse what with gits and grubs and the like I gave it up as a bad job and reluctantly crawled back to Windows 7  :bugeye:

Andrew,

If you gave up what hope do us mere mortals have of understanding it?  :bang:

Phil.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: awemawson on January 04, 2017, 12:35:21 PM
What got my goat is the response you seem to get in unix groups - they foul mouth you for asking simple  questions as though the entire world should have been initiated at birth.

I appreciate that Windows is horribly top heavy and unstructured, but I just wish those unix 'experts' could be a little more worldly in their responses to those not born  with Debian GNU  as a mother.

Years back I managed a group of engineers supporting AIX on IBM machines - every one of them was a prima donna that needed a lesson in practical skills that were actually useful  :bang:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on January 04, 2017, 05:24:47 PM
Evening Chaps. :wave:


       After reading the past few post I think I will be sticking with Mach 3.

Well, one of the jobs done tonight in the shop was to trim off the excess expanding foam.

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140399_zpsr5ek6gib.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140399_zpsr5ek6gib.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140414_zps9dtpkayc.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140414_zps9dtpkayc.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140418_zps0s5tqi3x.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140418_zps0s5tqi3x.jpg.html)

My weapon of choice, the multi-speed vibrator tool, fitted with a scraper blade freshly purchased for this job.  :dremel:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140419_zpskglbnvhl.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140419_zpskglbnvhl.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140416_zpsrenm9ipi.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140416_zpsrenm9ipi.jpg.html)

It sliced through the foam with ease, precisely and no mess. :med:


Rob.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: jb3cx on January 04, 2017, 05:47:51 PM
Good choice of tool for the job rob ,had one for years one of the best and most used power tools I have ,nice mods to the shop ,some nice new machines as well ,puts my shop to shame ,
Keep it up rob excellent work as per .


Peter
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: philf on January 05, 2017, 05:31:00 AM


I've still got a 6" Abwood vice waiting here (for your shaper?) if you still want it.


Crumbs, I forgot all about that... Tell you what, I'll swap you a Raspberry Pi 3 for it... I could call in Sunday I think, if you're around (after that, it'll be February sometime).

Ade,

I've now found the base!

The vice and base are about 45kgs so not as bad as I thought but still heavy enough to do some harm to your back (or toes if you drop it).

Are you coming round on Sunday (after 3:30)? If not I'll put it somewhere safe until you get back from China.

Cheers.

Phil.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Pete W. on January 05, 2017, 05:36:03 AM
Rob,

I recommend that you paint that bare foam surface.

Otherwise, the effect of exposure to air and sun/day light will, over a period of time, cause that foam to look like dog poo! 
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: krv3000 on January 05, 2017, 07:01:51 AM
brill
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Joules on January 05, 2017, 07:57:54 AM
Rob,

I recommend that you paint that bare foam surface.

Otherwise, the effect of exposure to air and sun/day light will, over a period of time, cause that foam to look like dog poo!

Paint it brown, Rob   :thumbup:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on January 05, 2017, 03:52:35 PM
Rob,

I recommend that you paint that bare foam surface.

Otherwise, the effect of exposure to air and sun/day light will, over a period of time, cause that foam to look like dog poo!

Hi Pete, 
   
         I will be painting over the foam,    :thumbup:  I plan on giving the whole workshop a fresh lick of paint.



Paint it brown, Rob   :thumbup:


 :lol: :lol: Hi Joules,   :wave:

Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Pete W. on January 09, 2017, 05:16:41 AM
 If you don't paint it, you don't need to paint it brown!!  If you see what I mean.   :lol:   :lol:   :lol: 
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on January 09, 2017, 01:02:38 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol: That is definitely cack brown Pete.  :palm:



Rob.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: John Rudd on January 09, 2017, 01:17:24 PM
Has he got a problem with his drains?..... :lol:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Pete W. on January 09, 2017, 02:42:03 PM
Has he got a problem with his drains?..... :lol:


Well, actually it's a time management problem rather than a drain problem.  A residual task from redecorating the room that I didn't get around to in time.

Up there, I fear it became out of sight so out of mind! 
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: John Rudd on January 09, 2017, 03:04:22 PM
Pete,
Good to hear I'm not alone when it comes to jobs around the home.....
'Er-indoors' is always chasing me to finish something.....or other
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Pete W. on January 09, 2017, 05:53:38 PM
Pete,
Good to hear I'm not alone when it comes to jobs around the home.....
'Er-indoors' is always chasing me to finish something.....or other


I rather fear I've dragged this thread  :offtopic: , sorry.

However, I've started so I'll finish:

For most of my life I was a free-holder but when I married my lovely but shy assistant I became a joint Housing Association tenant.  So, nowadays, apart from interior decoration, I do any necessary house maintenance with the telephone.  Happily, our landlords have a pretty effective maintenance and repair system. 
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Brass_Machine on January 09, 2017, 11:30:00 PM
...

Maybe I may have my CNC project done before yours.  :palm:

...

You will probably have it done before mine. I have only been at for what... 5 or 6 years not including the original conversion??

Anyway... Good job on the shop! You have inspired me to redo (read clean and organize) mine so I can actually start using it. Been working on it the past few days... the 7 degree temp today isn't helping me! That's -13.89C for those of you across the pond.

Eric
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on January 10, 2017, 04:49:08 PM
Cheers Eric,     :thumbup:

         Aye, I thought to myself one big hit and get the workshop sorted/organized to where I can just go in and get on with the project I have on the go and not have to do this and that before I can do whatever.

A couple more months should see most of the jobs done, then, back on with the forge and CNC mill.

-13C, you need some freezer spec overalls, good down to -30C,    :thumbup:   rather cold on the ears and nose though  :palm: 

Maybe we should have a competition for  the slowest CNC build, the competitors  being,  you, me and Phil   :lol:


Cheers, Rob.







Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on January 12, 2017, 10:10:40 AM
Afternoon Chaps,


I got a few machines moved about last night, Myford lathe in its new home, it fits the space well.

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140440_zpsopitutmr.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140440_zpsopitutmr.jpg.html)

Decided to re-organize the tool board at the rear of the bench, sort out my hammers and 3/8 drive sockets, so more Bott clips and pegs were ordered.

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140444_zpsdtxmbg7l.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140444_zpsdtxmbg7l.jpg.html)

Before ,

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140438_zpsb14oveq8.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140438_zpsb14oveq8.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140442_zpsy0didfhc.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140442_zpsy0didfhc.jpg.html)

After,  :dremel:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/20170111_205012_zpsr1dzknb7.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/20170111_205012_zpsr1dzknb7.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140446_zpsxp26pbbp.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140446_zpsxp26pbbp.jpg.html)

There is still the other half to do when I decide what will stay and go.   :thumbup:


Cheers,Rob.


 
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: awemawson on January 12, 2017, 11:15:05 AM
That looks more like a tool shop than a workshop - when are you opening for business  :lol:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Spurry on January 12, 2017, 11:22:05 AM
A truly fine example of organisation. :thumbup:
Pete
PS Wish I was that tidy.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: John Rudd on January 12, 2017, 11:51:06 AM
Looks great Rob, better than when I visited.... :lol:

The Myford has scrubbed up well too..... :clap:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: krv3000 on January 12, 2017, 02:58:47 PM
brill rob  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: ieezitin on January 12, 2017, 05:09:16 PM
That's the tits..

I always thought those peg board jobbies were a little 'tas d'ordure' but seeing what you have accomplished and the organization it brings  makes it a first class job my dear boy... another striking asset i see is you know when your tools are missing straight away.

Anthony. 
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: SwarfnStuff on January 13, 2017, 12:17:46 AM
I think you are a few 'ammers short Rob, I made a quick count and only got 30 odd handles. Surely you need more!  :ddb: Hope the wall is a strong'n to hold all that lot.  :D
   Organization looks great.
Of necessity, my stuff hangs on the walls too and the big advantage is knowing just where to grab the tool. It helps greatly if you put em back between uses, never on the bench cos then the tool gremlin knocks em orf.
Or, could it be the clutter just hides them?  :scratch: :(
   I do like your posts and resultant output, always worth my time reading.
Thanks for posting,
John B
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Biggles on January 13, 2017, 12:54:14 PM
looks nice Rob, nice display of tools.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on January 13, 2017, 05:06:03 PM
Evening Chaps,   :wave:


   Cheers for the comments, after many years of storing my hand tools in a large Kennady tool box that took up valuable floor space, I have meters of wall space, but you can't stand a machine on a wall, so a few years back I retired the tool box (sort of) and put up the Bott Perfecto wall boards at the back of the work bench, and never looked back . Its, not the cheapest system, being all steel, but it does work well. An example of cost, the clips, single hooks and long double pegs I used to mount the hammers and 3/8 drive gear came to about £35, still cheap when compared to the cost of a good quality tool box.

Since using the system, I can locate what I need at a glance, when working at the bench as soon as I have used a tool it goes straight back keeping the bench free from clutter, with the tool box, tools would just build up on the bench, I would be raking through the draws looking for the tool I needed, and I don't suffer from that most frustrating of conditions, stuck draw syndrome, when tools get jammed.

Also, clean up is ALLOT quicker, I can see at a glance what is missing. It works well for me.  :coffee:

Tonight's job was to pipe in the compressor, I found a home for my portable compressor between two of mills, serviceable but not ideal, but it will do for the time being. :dremel:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140454_zps6gkbutpk.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140454_zps6gkbutpk.jpg.html)

I will tee into here,

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140456_zpsdfzfxmuh.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140456_zpsdfzfxmuh.jpg.html)

Like so,

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140457_zps8kop6akh.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140457_zps8kop6akh.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1140463_zpsfzxnhxad.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1140463_zpsfzxnhxad.jpg.html)

It's good to have the compressed air back, I also figured out that with a bit more jiggery-pokery,  I will have the room for a blasting cabinet in the workshop, another thing to make.  :dremel:


Take it easy lads, Rob.


 
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on January 14, 2017, 02:52:27 PM
Evening Lads,    :wave:




    I got to sort out a bit more of the workshop today. I have been shifting the cabinet that I removed from workshop #2  wall to make way for the doorway back and forth since its removal.
So what to do with it, there is no wall space for a double cabinet, But I have this space that a single would fit in.

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140470_zpsibmyeg2y.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140470_zpsibmyeg2y.jpg.html)

Cut it in half    :dremel:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140472_zpspiivsyhz.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140472_zpspiivsyhz.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140476_zpstomczgq1.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140476_zpstomczgq1.jpg.html)

Fits like a glove  :D

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140478_zpsmmapcje5.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140478_zpsmmapcje5.jpg.html)

Well,  I did have to remove the belt cover from the 626 mill, the cover is now defunct and on the scrap pile. Well, I suppose I have made a start on the CNC project.  :lol: :lol:


Cheers Rob 
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: tom osselton on January 14, 2017, 02:58:48 PM
Let's hope the belt lasts forever!  :beer:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on January 14, 2017, 03:02:17 PM
Hi Tom


The belts will be OK, they are Willy Wonka everlasting belts   :thumbup:



Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: John Rudd on January 14, 2017, 03:34:34 PM
Evening Lads,    :wave:




    I got to sort out a bit more of the workshop today. I have been shifting the cabinet that I removed from workshop #2
Cut it in half   :dremel:

Fits like a glove  :D


Well,  I did have to remove the belt cover from the 626 mill, the cover is now defunct and on the scrap pile. Well, I suppose I have made a start on the CNC project.  :lol: :lol:

Cheers Rob


One word.....,



Butcher!!  :lol:


Looks good Rob....


That 626 is going to be sooooooooo good when finished... :drool:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on January 14, 2017, 04:06:12 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol: Professional butcher if you please,  :)

Aye it will be canny John, when I get it done  :Doh:


Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on January 15, 2017, 06:54:59 AM
Morning Chaps,


          I am pondering maybe adding a central vacuum system to my workshop, my shop vac is on its last legs and it gets in the way. So do any of you chaps have it installed? 



Rob.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: ieezitin on January 15, 2017, 08:58:35 AM
Rob

A few years ago I cobbled together a system and had a problem with an annoying noise being generated through the ribbed hose, the longer i made the hose the higher the pitch got, enough for me to abandon the project.

Now i used long lengths of flexible hose which i got bulk at an auction, i suspected at the time the problem could be due to the ribs creating cavitation.

So if it were I doing this again I would consider smooth bore tubing with long radius 90 elbows, make sure you install clean outs for blocks and make the joint system quick access.

Thats all I have to offer.

PS. Do you have a limit on shoving so many chattels in relatively small quarters ....  Remember Newton " objects of mass occupying space at the same time"

Anthony.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: wheeltapper on January 15, 2017, 10:01:48 AM
I think Rob's shop is built with Time Lord technology. :D :D









for those who don't watch Dr Who, it's bigger on the inside. :bugeye:

Roy.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Joules on January 15, 2017, 10:12:44 AM
  Be careful Rob, adding a vacuum to that already dense space could just be enough to induce a singularity.

 :smart:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: John Rudd on January 15, 2017, 10:20:00 AM
  Be careful Rob, adding a vacuum to that already dense space could just be enough to induce a singularity.

 :smart:
Just one singularity? More like multiple singularities that when combined could result in a black hole....then everything in the shop is drawn in to it...and well....who knows what ensues.... :bugeye:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: ieezitin on January 15, 2017, 10:29:28 AM
  Be careful Rob, adding a vacuum to that already dense space could just be enough to induce a singularity.

 :smart:
Just one singularity? More like multiple singularities that when combined could result in a black hole....then everything in the shop is drawn in to it...and well....who knows what ensues.... :bugeye:

One singularity!!!! Rob would get a plural of singularities and proceed to make a rack for them then build a cabinet to store them move the light switch to the spare bedroom to make way to install the cabinet, all done by Wenesday.    :med:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Joules on January 15, 2017, 10:59:22 AM
Perhaps this explains why Rob can get so much done in such a short time.   Space time is compressed in Rob's shop so for us outside, a years work is just a few days.   Then Rob could truly be a timelord as we don't see him aging.  Plus his van seems to be unaffected by gravity...   It's all starting to make sense now.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on January 15, 2017, 02:15:28 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol: You lads crack me up  :lol: :lol:

Quote
Rob would get a plural of singularities and proceed to make a rack for them



 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbup:


Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: hermetic on January 16, 2017, 03:28:03 PM
 Hi Rob, I built a very satisfactory centralised Vac system using 37mm (1 1/2")  grey plastic waste pipe and push fit long bends and tees, and an old w&d vac in the outside shed. One outlet on the upstairs landing, and two downstairs, with push in bungs and a remote switch circuit at each outlet to turn the vac on and off. Worked a treat, and is stillworking, although the vac itself got replaced when eventually the magic smoke escaped!
Phil
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on January 16, 2017, 05:56:34 PM
Hi Phil


     That the plan I had in mind, to use good old PVC pipe with push fit bends and the likes, and maybe some sort of cyclone contraption.  :dremel:


      I think that maybe my workshop mods are suffering from Andrews project creep.  :palm:



Onwards and upwards chaps, Rob.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: howsitwork? on January 17, 2017, 05:28:24 PM
Rob

well worth looking at B&Q for remote sensing sockets with control ( about 12 from memory for 3 ). You set the system up with a remote socket for power for the vacuum. You can then stand at machine and turn it on and off without moving - very handy. I ve used it for years for my dust extraction system for my wood lathe. Get the biggest damn vacuum you can fit in, axminster do a really good wall mounted one ( cos I can see you like things on walls :thumbup: )

Use the widest tube you can easily fit in and keep bends gradual; or you lose suction. Soil tube works and you can get bends with access ports in them, which makes clearing blockages easier.

Just take care , with all your singularities you don't vanish up you're own orifice with a loud quack like the Ouzlem - Ouzlem bird :lol: :lol:

Ian
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: micktoon on January 17, 2017, 06:38:08 PM
Hi Rob, I used 2inch waste pipe for my dust extraction in the wood shed, its push fit but a good tight fit so no need to glue, then you can take it apart if needed. You can get swept tees with blanks so where you have a 90 degree bend you can also have a cap to take off in case of things getting blocked. The plastics center at Kingston Park do the stuff and are cheap too.  :thumbup:

 Cheers Mick
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on January 30, 2017, 03:50:42 PM
Evening Chaps  :beer:


 A bit of an update on the workshop, things are starting to become more ship shape, I can now walk the entire length of the workshop without having to step over something.  :med:

I stuck up a bit more Bott pegboard tonight, I had to move a socket, so while I was on I fit another double socket for my battery chargers.  :dremel:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140502_zpsaf1shstw.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140502_zpsaf1shstw.jpg.html)


The 40 Amp 240v supply for the phase converter is in, had to move a socket, so mounted a 16 amp 240v socket there while I was on.  :zap:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140493_zpsnu27ctcn.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140493_zpsnu27ctcn.jpg.html)


And I also swapped the 440v socket on the phase converter for one that would point to the rear, the original panel mount socket had the plug sticking out at 90 degrees.


(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140504_zps5gzwo28y.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140504_zps5gzwo28y.jpg.html)



Tomorrow, I think I will devise something to make the phase converter more maneuverable.  :coffee:


Rob




 
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: micktoon on January 30, 2017, 04:40:20 PM
Looking canny Rob  :thumbup:, it must be nice not having to step over stuff too. Did you ever dicide what you were going to do with the extraction system ? I am still deciding if a trolly type idea or a wall bracket is better for my converter  :scratch:
  Cheers Mick
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: krv3000 on January 31, 2017, 04:24:01 PM
brill rob :thumbup: :thumbup:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Biggles on January 31, 2017, 09:07:49 PM
Thatís a lot of work there Rob; Just wanted to ask about your Schneider distribution panel. Have you managed to get all the accessories for it?  Looking around the net sellers have limited Schneider items advertised. Can you let me know who your supplier is please? I am up to the stage of making a gallows frame and fitting a 3 phase supply on the wall of my garage for a temporary work area and get something going until I can build a proper workshop at the end of the garden.  :zap:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on February 01, 2017, 11:17:19 AM
Just wanted to ask about your Schneider distribution panel. Have you managed to get all the accessories for it?  Looking around the net sellers have limited Schneider items advertised. Can you let me know who your supplier is please?   :zap:


 :scratch:  Are you joking?  Did you use Google? 

https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=schneider+3+pole+mcb

https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=schneider+4+pole+incomer


http://uk.rs-online.com/web/c/automation-control-gear/circuit-protection-circuit-breakers/mcbs/#esid=4294957372&applied-dimensions=4294759608,4294964965


I think the village shop stocks Schneider 3 pole MCB's , but they don't have a web site  :palm:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Biggles on February 01, 2017, 12:17:03 PM
Thanks Rob, I was hoping you found a cheaper place than RS and some of the others on the web. By the way did you use a direct line for each machine or a 3 phase ring main?
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on February 01, 2017, 01:41:39 PM
Thanks Rob, I was hoping you found a cheaper place than RS and some of the others on the web. By the way did you use a direct line for each machine or a 3 phase ring main?

You could try Ebay, there is a fair bit of used gear on there. aye, industrial gear can get a bit pricey.

Yes one machine one MCB, when I get that far, no three phase machines wired in as of yet.

 With the exception of my grinders, I have moved the grinders, TCG's and surface grinder so they are now grouped together and they will share one MCB as they all have motors of very similar amperage, this will cut down the need for 4 MCB's for the grinding machines  to 1, and the need for only one cable back to the phase converter. 


Rob

Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: appletree on February 01, 2017, 02:16:58 PM
Just wanted to ask about your Schneider distribution panel. Have you managed to get all the accessories for it?  Looking around the net sellers have limited Schneider items advertised. Can you let me know who your supplier is please?   :zap:


 :scratch:  Are you joking?  Did you use Google? 

https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=schneider+3+pole+mcb

https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=schneider+4+pole+incomer


http://uk.rs-online.com/web/c/automation-control-gear/circuit-protection-circuit-breakers/mcbs/#esid=4294957372&applied-dimensions=4294759608,4294964965


I think the village shop stocks Schneider 3 pole MCB's , but they don't have a web site  :palm:

You appear to be very capable and some or all of the things you have made are very well presented, in fact awesome, however we all have differing capabilities, I really donít think there is that much need for cinicism, all our pockets are different depths and we are all supposed to be friends on here, yes its easy when you know how. Not meant as an attack more a a different view point, without malice Phil     
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on February 01, 2017, 03:47:28 PM


You appear to be very capable and some or all of the things you have made are very well presented, in fact awesome, however we all have differing capabilities, I really donít think there is that much need for cinicism, all our pockets are different depths and we are all supposed to be friends on here, yes its easy when you know how. Not meant as an attack more a a different view point, without malice Phil     


Evening Phil,  :scratch:


 Any chance you could explain, you have lost me!

OP asked a question

Quote
Looking around the net sellers have limited Schneider items advertised. Can you let me know who your supplier is please? 

My reply

Quote
Are you joking?  Did you use Google? 


I really thought he was joking, as googling Schneider brings up hundreds of hits, as my two links showed.

Mmm, that could be why I chose a Schneider Loadcenter, because MCB,s are available from just about everywhere. I could have gone Square D.


You said,

Quote
all our pockets are different depths

No price was mentioned!

So what's that about?


Quote
we are all supposed to be friends on here

I did not realize me and Biggles had fallen out  :scratch:


But in reality WE are not all friends on here,  I have lots of friends on here,  BUT! I think some folks on the forum are complete knobs, and some will more that likely think similarly of me, that's life.  :thumbup: 


Rob













Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: mexican jon on February 01, 2017, 03:58:07 PM
:bugeye:  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: RobWilson
BUT! I think some folks on the forum are complete knobs, and some will more that likely think similarly of me, that's life.  :thumbup: 

Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: appletree on February 02, 2017, 04:18:48 AM


You appear to be very capable and some or all of the things you have made are very well presented, in fact awesome, however we all have differing capabilities, I really donít think there is that much need for cinicism, all our pockets are different depths and we are all supposed to be friends on here, yes its easy when you know how. Not meant as an attack more a a different view point, without malice Phil     


Evening Phil,  :scratch:


 Any chance you could explain, you have lost me!

OP asked a question

Quote
Looking around the net sellers have limited Schneider items advertised. Can you let me know who your supplier is please? 

My reply

Quote
Are you joking?  Did you use Google? 


I really thought he was joking, as googling Schneider brings up hundreds of hits, as my two links showed.

Mmm, that could be why I chose a Schneider Loadcenter, because MCB,s are available from just about everywhere. I could have gone Square D.


You said,

Quote
all our pockets are different depths

No price was mentioned!

So what's that about?


Quote
we are all supposed to be friends on here

I did not realize me and Biggles had fallen out  :scratch:


But in reality WE are not all friends on here,  I have lots of friends on here,  BUT! I think some folks on the forum are complete knobs, and some will more that likely think similarly of me, that's life.  :thumbup: 


Rob

I think we must just have different senses of humour, no problem.


Phil
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Biggles on February 02, 2017, 03:18:08 PM
I havenít taken it bad, I should have made it clear in my first comment that it was the prices I was after or rather a cheaper price than the net. We are all still friends and  I havenít fallen out with Rob or anybody else. thanks for the backup Phil.  :beer:

Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on February 03, 2017, 04:45:22 PM
Evening Chaps  :dremel:


  I nipped across to Ikea today and picked up a Billy phase converter doodad, the kit.

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140510_zpsaftoj5nf.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140510_zpsaftoj5nf.jpg.html)

Tacked together.

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140515_zpshak4mt7a.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140515_zpshak4mt7a.jpg.html)


And a quick try on for size.

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140518_zpsnfd8c6aq.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140518_zpsnfd8c6aq.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140523_zpssa8l02bj.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140523_zpssa8l02bj.jpg.html)

I am just using up all the rusty short lengths of whatever I have at hand on this, tomorrow I will de-rust it and finish up the welding.

Cheers Rob.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Joules on February 03, 2017, 04:53:33 PM
Nice frame Rob, my first thought was baby 3D printer.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on February 03, 2017, 05:39:25 PM
Evening Joules,


Quote
my first thought was baby 3D printer.


That's because you eat, sleep and work 3D printers mate   :dremel:  how many are you running now 3 - 4   :med: , one day I will get round to building one.



Cheers, Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Spurry on February 03, 2017, 05:59:13 PM
Rob
Just a little query.
You have mitred the corners of the sides of your box, and tacked all the pieces into place. How did you treat the hidden mitres under the cross members, as they are now hidden.  :scratch:
I just like to try and follow your methodology.. :thumbup:
Pete
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on February 03, 2017, 06:24:16 PM
Evening Pete,


The Joint,

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140514_zpsxymqchxn.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140514_zpsxymqchxn.jpg.html)

I have not done or will do any welding to the mitered face, the fit up is good, but I will weld all around the rusty HZ member, the inside and outer corners of the miter joint. 


Cheers Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Spurry on February 04, 2017, 04:59:00 AM
Ah ha, I now see. Thanks Rob.
Looking forward to seeing how you stop the machine going walkabout, and how you put up with the noise.
Pete
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: micktoon on February 04, 2017, 05:11:48 AM
Hi Rob are you planning on mounting the converter on the wall in its frame or putting it on castors so you can move it if you wanted or needed to ? Frame looks good  :thumbup:
  Cheers Mick
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: awemawson on February 04, 2017, 05:35:50 AM
Mick,

post #315 has a picture of the castors for your delight and delectation  :clap:

Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: micktoon on February 04, 2017, 09:21:32 AM
Thanks for that Andrew, I was viewing on a tablet and only realised now it does not show the full picture so have to drag it across to see the right hand side lol  :palm:, I have probably missed all sorts on posts before as just noticed now lol.
  Cheers Mick
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: awemawson on February 04, 2017, 09:31:23 AM
That's the problem with huge pictures being loaded - would be fine as 640 x 480  :lol:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on February 04, 2017, 01:11:43 PM
Evening Chaps  :dremel:


A wee bit more done today, welded up the frame and added the casters.

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140525_zpsex1s9s8g.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140525_zpsex1s9s8g.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140526_zpsz14avfs1.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140526_zpsz14avfs1.jpg.html)


Then got distracted  :Doh:  I blame Pete  :poke:

Quote
Looking forward to seeing how you stop the machine going walkabout, and how you put up with the noise.
Pete


Well, I just had to see how load the phase converter will be.

Workshop at rest, nowt running. Phase converter power is on.

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140530_zpsydegpg5k.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140530_zpsydegpg5k.jpg.html)

Phase converter running no load.

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140529_zps3r9niohn.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140529_zps3r9niohn.jpg.html)

See that's not loud to my ears, maybe I am going deaf  :lol: , so I rigged up an extension lead and powered up one of the mills 5hp spindle motor plus coolant and power feed motors
running, noise levels stopped about the same and no movement of the phase converter .


Rob




Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: hermetic on February 04, 2017, 01:25:31 PM
 If it gets to noisy you can always shove it outside on a fine day! Nice job mate, makes me realise how blessed I am to have 3 phase in. Mind you, it took a right dust up with the old man before he would stump up his half of it! (not) Happy days!
Phil
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: tom osselton on February 04, 2017, 03:51:06 PM
I use a samsung tablet and when the pics are too big you can touch the screen and press view picture / save pic ect.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Pete W. on February 05, 2017, 10:39:14 AM
Please be gentle with me if this is a silly question:   :scratch:   :scratch:   :scratch:   :scratch: 

When you make a welded frame of hollow section and with totally closed corners, do you have to drill a hole somewhere to let the section 'breathe' while the weld pool is still liquid? 
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Spurry on February 05, 2017, 12:23:00 PM
Looking good Rob. I guess one of my problems is that it is so quiet here. :)
If the mill itself is running, the noise from the inverter is not noticeable, BUT unfortunately I have to have the inverter operating to generate the 110v for the DRO.
If the DRO is off, then nothing can be moved or else the readings are thrown out. It's not quite so bad, now the unit is on the other side of a 6" wall, but still obtrusive enough.
My unit only sits on its original rubber pads, so I have to re-visit it every so often to put it back where it should be.  :scratch:
Pete
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on February 06, 2017, 01:19:48 PM
Please be gentle with me if this is a silly question:   :scratch:   :scratch:   :scratch:   :scratch: 

When you make a welded frame of hollow section and with totally closed corners, do you have to drill a hole somewhere to let the section 'breathe' while the weld pool is still liquid?

Hi Pete,

 It is not a real concern, the MIG welding pool freezes fairly rapidly. 



Rob 
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Pete W. on February 06, 2017, 01:52:10 PM
Please be gentle with me if this is a silly question:   :scratch:   :scratch:   :scratch:   :scratch: 

When you make a welded frame of hollow section and with totally closed corners, do you have to drill a hole somewhere to let the section 'breathe' while the weld pool is still liquid?

Hi Pete,

 It is not a real concern, the MIG welding pool freezes fairly rapidly. 



Rob


Cheers, Rob, thank you.   :D   :D   :D   :D   :D   :D 
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on February 11, 2017, 03:30:05 PM
Evening Chaps,


                   A wee update, slapped a couple of coats of rattle can black paint on the frame, oh! and added a 50mm upstand.

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140542_zpst5ed6lgi.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140542_zpst5ed6lgi.jpg.html)

                 Decided to use two of the supplied rubber feet as buffers.   :med:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140545_zpsnubatrtn.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140545_zpsnubatrtn.jpg.html)


           And added a plywood top that would make  Mr. Chippendale  turn in his grave  :lol:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140554_zps4rhnye4w.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140554_zps4rhnye4w.jpg.html)



Cheers Lads.   :thumbup:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: krv3000 on February 11, 2017, 05:49:30 PM
well dun rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Joe d on February 11, 2017, 08:17:06 PM
Looks good, Rob :thumbup:

Do you have somewhere to park it out of the way near one of the walls?

Joe
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: SwarfnStuff on February 12, 2017, 12:00:12 AM
Yup good stuff,

      That last pic shows the correct test procedure for any new bench top Rob.  :coffee: I reckon the cuppa was well earned. I always like your posts.

John B
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Will_D on February 12, 2017, 05:31:09 AM
  I nipped across to Ikea today and picked up a Billy phase converter doodad, the kit.
I know this is a daft question, Rob, but what did you get in Ikea?

I searched there site for "Billy phase converter dooda" :bugeye:

Ok I didn't :lol:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Spurry on February 12, 2017, 05:44:00 AM
Just make sure there is no mug on top when you switch it on... :thumbup:
Pete
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: awemawson on February 12, 2017, 05:48:26 AM
Nice trolley Rob, and made to your usual stout high quality  :thumbup:

I am a little puzzled though why you need it. I'd have thought tucking it away somewhere in a dark corner, and putting a three phase socket adjacent to each machine would have been for more ergonomic than trundling the tea trolley about, particularly when alternating between (say) the lathe and milling machine in a typical machining session  :scratch:

When I was running off a Transwave rotary converter at my last shop I ran a 'three phase ring main' round the room with multiple sockets, and power to the converter was run through the same contactor that operated my 'Emergency Stop' circuit on the 13a sockets. This meant when I'd finished for the day, I just had to press the red button by the exit when I went in for the night knowing everything was isolated except the lighting circuit.
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on February 12, 2017, 06:07:40 AM

I am a little puzzled though why you need it. I'd have thought tucking it away somewhere in a dark corner, and putting a three phase socket adjacent to each machine would have been for more ergonomic than trundling the tea trolley about, particularly when alternating between (say) the lathe and milling machine in a typical machining session  :scratch:




Hi Andrew,


  You do have me puzzled  :scratch: ,   really, you thought I was actually going to move the phase converter to each machine!  where did I give that impression?



HINT


(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140493_zpsnu27ctcn.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140493_zpsnu27ctcn.jpg.html)


Why do I bother  :Doh:


Rob


Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: awemawson on February 12, 2017, 06:16:30 AM
I probably read that post on my iPad and the big picture fell off the edge of the screen  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: mexican jon on February 12, 2017, 06:26:10 AM
Hi Andrew,
You do have me puzzled  :scratch: ,   really, you thought I was actually going to move the phase converter to each machine! where did I give that impression?

Rob

                            :lol: :lol:
When you installed wheels on it
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on February 12, 2017, 06:37:04 AM
 :lol:  OK Andrew,


This thing has to go somewhere if it just sits on the floor that's  700mm x 700mm of floor space used up, put a frame around it and add a top, I get 700mm x 700mm of usable storage space back, while I am on its no hardship to just add four casters, this makes moving the thing allot easier and the rubber wheels will damp any vibration. 

I thought it was obvious  :coffee:   

Rob

Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Biggles on February 12, 2017, 11:39:02 AM
Nice piece of work Rob, in my case I have just ordered some angle for a gallows frame on the wall. Unlike your setup I am still with Andrewís idea of a ring main. That converter is a heavy beast I can confirm. If you have it on the ground then it will need moving at some stage to find the odd screw you dropped as they will always go behind something you canít move.  :headbang:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on February 12, 2017, 01:26:47 PM
                          And there we go,

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140561_zpsetfjhpqw.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140561_zpsetfjhpqw.jpg.html)

It fits, I wonder how that happened, It fits in what would otherwise have been dead space, as I could hardly have the lathe hard up to the door, as is I have 1500mm through the spindle from the front of the chuck jaws.

I also have access to the dead space at the rear of the lathe, somewhere to store my engine hoist, we don't all have two barns to have kit ideally placed, I just have to pi$$ with the cock I have.



And look, somewhere to pile crap on.

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140565_zpsalc6hzlt.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140565_zpsalc6hzlt.jpg.html)


  Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: awemawson on February 12, 2017, 01:44:37 PM
Hey Rob, that's a brilliant dark corner to keep it - how lucky it just fits AND there's a handy power point  :lol: :lol:



( just in case you wondered  :poke: )
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on February 12, 2017, 02:48:58 PM
in my case I have just ordered some angle for a gallows frame on the wall. Unlike your setup I am still with Andrewís idea of a ring main.


Remember to take a few photos Biggles   :poke:  , we likes photos we do  :thumbup:


Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: BillTodd on February 12, 2017, 02:53:08 PM
Watch out for swarf finding its way down the spindle and dropping out down towards your RPC motor Rob.

Might want to bung it up or direct it away to some where safer.

Bill
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on February 12, 2017, 02:58:30 PM
Watch out for swarf finding its way down the spindle and dropping out down towards your RPC motor Rob.

Might want to bung it up or direct it away to some where safer.

Bill



Was planning on fitting a spindle bung if needed  Bill  :thumbup: ,


And I plan to add a few remote stop/start switches around the shop, so I don't have to keep walking back and forth to switch the phase converter on and off.  :zap:


Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Mayhem on February 19, 2017, 06:07:26 AM
Looking good Rob.  I'm still plugging away with my shop.  I clean up one section and then end up piling it full of crap out of the next one on my list  :bang:  I spent the whole of today sorting out fasteners.  Funnily enough, the path to the beer fridge is nice and uncluttered  :beer:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on February 19, 2017, 10:00:47 AM
Afternoon Chaps,



                        Just a wee project today, another job knocked off the list. A set of machine skates.  :dremel: Things are a tad tight in the shop so these should make life easier for jiggling machinery about.


(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140570_zpstaptawui.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140570_zpstaptawui.jpg.html)(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140576_zpsmxfjgd7s.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140576_zpsmxfjgd7s.jpg.html)(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140595_zps8khpk4cr.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140595_zps8khpk4cr.jpg.html)


   Maybe after lunch, I may mod a small bottle jack into a wee toe jack.


 Rob.





Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on February 19, 2017, 10:04:07 AM
Looking good Rob.  I'm still plugging away with my shop.  I clean up one section and then end up piling it full of crap out of the next one on my list  :bang:  I spent the whole of today sorting out fasteners.  Funnily enough, the path to the beer fridge is nice and uncluttered  :beer:


Cheers Darren  :thumbup: ,

 Aye it seems never ending at times  :bang:,  drink Vodka!  :thumbup: :lol:



Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: awemawson on February 19, 2017, 10:14:02 AM
Nice job Rob  :thumbup:

Are those rollers from pallet jacks?

btw I see you still have the shiny camera  :ddb:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Joules on February 19, 2017, 10:15:49 AM
They look great Rob, just need some toe clips and a big magnet to ski behind trucks and buses    :ddb:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on February 19, 2017, 10:27:50 AM
Nice job Rob  :thumbup:

Are those rollers from pallet jacks?




Cheers Andrew, 

         Aye they are 70mm load wheels, as fit to  pallet trucks and the likes  :thumbup:




They look great Rob, just need some toe clips and a big magnet to ski behind trucks and buses    :ddb:



 :lol: , Cheers Joules,   I will add them if you try it out first  :poke: :lol:   


Rob
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Biggles on February 19, 2017, 03:26:41 PM
nice job Rob  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on February 20, 2017, 02:36:32 PM
Thanks Biggles  :beer:


         First up tonight was finish off a chair for Joules  :lol: :lol:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140611_zpslq26xhny.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140611_zpslq26xhny.jpg.html)

 The handling is a bit wank Joules, but it's ready whenever you are.  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Next up my custom made from billet PVC welding screen arrived today  :ddb: :ddb: , This is for dust spark control.

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140607_zpsopb9ken0.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140607_zpsopb9ken0.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140605_zpsepbas7oy.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140605_zpsepbas7oy.jpg.html)

I think I may stick a few neodizzyum magnets in the eyelets down each side, mmm not sure, still pondering that one.  :scratch: 


And the gear for my remote phase converter stop/start turned up.  :zap:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140615_zpswm4r9y7l.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20Waffle/P1140615_zpswm4r9y7l.jpg.html)

 
Cheers Rob,


PS, Some geeza once said a picture is worth a 1000 words ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,mmmmmmmmm  not if your blind or you post it on Madmodder   :)
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: krv3000 on February 20, 2017, 06:15:21 PM
rob one of them seats will be brill for my big but   :)
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Biggles on February 21, 2017, 08:19:44 AM
it will work just fine for my weight.  :nrocks:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Mayhem on February 21, 2017, 08:37:25 AM

Next up my custom made from billet PVC welding screen arrived today  :ddb: :ddb: , This is for dust spark control.

Looks like the backdrop off the set of a cheap porno Rob  :lol:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Biggles on February 21, 2017, 08:51:12 AM
 :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on February 21, 2017, 11:49:26 AM
rob one of them seats will be brill for my big but   :)

Not sure about that Bob  :lol: :lol: :lol: may need more wheels way too much loading for only four sets, and picturing your arse on that wee stool brings to mind a vision of John Wayne's saddle bags   :poke: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Rob  :)
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: RobWilson on February 21, 2017, 11:54:27 AM

Next up my custom made from billet PVC welding screen arrived today  :ddb: :ddb: , This is for dust spark control.

Looks like the backdrop off the set of a cheap porno Rob  :lol:

Is that speaking from experience Darren  :lol: :lol: :lol: anyway it's a bit rich coming from a bloke who has brothel pink workshop walls  :)


Rob


Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: krv3000 on February 21, 2017, 02:33:51 PM
lol pink
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: Mayhem on February 23, 2017, 05:14:41 AM
The walls are white Rob.  Well, with the exception of Saturday nights...
Title: Re: Wilson's Workshop Waffle
Post by: awemawson on February 23, 2017, 05:50:04 AM
The walls may be white, but Rob has Rose tinted specs  :lol: :lol: