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Darrens new workshop
« on: April 16, 2009, 02:41:00 PM »
Not really my shop, but it soon will when I've finished it.... :)



Keeps me busy... :ddb:
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Re: Darrens new workshop
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2009, 02:50:04 PM »
cool!

What are the dimensions? I really need to redo mine. Tired of working in my basement.

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Re: Darrens new workshop
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2009, 02:59:06 PM »
6.5m long and 4m wide and high enough for a Bridgy.... :ddb:
Oh and plenty of room at the back for a later extension about 4x3M.

Bin working on the roof timbers for the last couple of days, should be done tomorrow hopefully. Then the slates go on.... :)

Need to start thinking what I'm going to do for a door  :scratch:
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Re: Darrens new workshop
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2009, 03:07:45 PM »
About the same size as my garage. Mine is 11"x20" right now. I do want to demolish it and go with 15"x24". That would make me very happy:)

You gonna heat\cool it? Plenty of lighting and power right?

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Re: Darrens new workshop
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2009, 04:43:07 PM »
About the same size as my garage. Mine is 11"x20" right now. I do want to demolish it and go with 15"x24". That would make me very happy:)

You gonna heat\cool it? Plenty of lighting and power right?

Eric

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Ah hem, Eric. Wouldn't you be happier with a 15 foot by 42 foot. Might be a bit less cramped.

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Re: Darrens new workshop
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2009, 05:09:33 PM »


You gonna heat\cool it? Plenty of lighting and power right?

Eric

I'm an electrician Eric, or was....wada you think?  :thumbup:
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Re: Darrens new workshop
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2009, 06:24:34 PM »
Are them flying buttresses you've built on there Darren its not a Cathedral your building is it  :scratch:

Yu'll be adding cloisters and a bell tower next.

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Re: Darrens new workshop
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2009, 06:44:30 PM »
Don't worry about the windup Bernd is getting up to.

I know he likes to practice dancing in his shop, that is why he had it made so large.

Can you just imagine him in tights and a tutu, leaping and spinning between machines, tweaking the handles to the tune of swan lake in the background.

Unlike us Brits who like to run two machines at a time, by just turning our bodies thru 90 degrees.

Nice looking build Darren, a bit on the large side though.

Are you taking dancing lessons by the way?

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Re: Darrens new workshop
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2009, 06:46:43 PM »
Ah ha.....that is by design..... :thumbup:

My missus wanted a seating area by the grass, the roof over this bit will extend and the walls will be build up.

I of course want to put doors on it and keep the mower, spades, rake, plant pots soil ect in there to keep them out of MY workshop  :lol:

I wonder who will win........ :ddb:
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Re: Darrens new workshop
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2009, 06:49:18 PM »

Are you taking dancing lessons by the way?

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The only dancing I do is when the hot swarf bites.... :lol:
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Re: Darrens new workshop
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2009, 07:28:31 PM »
 :lol:     :lol:     :lol:     :lol:
You won't want to see me in a tutu. It's scary.

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Re: Darrens new workshop
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2009, 07:53:48 PM »
:lol:     :lol:     :lol:     :lol:
You won't want to see me in a tutu. It's scary.

Bernd

Probably bloody illegal as well.

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Re: Darrens new workshop
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2009, 02:13:18 PM »
Built up the back wall, added some facia supports and cemented them in. Will need finishing with more cement.

Then moved over to the front to build the overhanging roof. Support frames were made first to take my weight before getting up there  :lol:

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Re: Darrens new workshop
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2009, 04:05:14 PM »
Looking good there Darern.

What size are those rafters, 2" X 4"? Just courious.

BTW, it looks like your in a hilly area. Background looks nice.

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Re: Darrens new workshop
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2009, 04:39:05 PM »
I hope you are leaving a gap in the ceiling so you can access all the loft storage space?
Nice block work BTW.
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Re: Darrens new workshop
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2009, 06:43:17 PM »
Looking good there Darern.

What size are those rafters, 2" X 4"? Just courious.

BTW, it looks like your in a hilly area. Background looks nice.

Bernd

Yes, 2x4's Bernd at 400mm centers, 16" to you.... :D
There are a few more strengthening bits to go in yet as it's to be a slate roof. Oh and to hold all my junk in the loft.
There will be a loft hatch, maybe two to make life easier as I have plenty to go up there !!
First time I've built an apex roof, and only one pent before that many years ago. Seems to have gone well enough. Certainly solid.

I live right in the hills Bernd, mountains that is in Snowdonia. I love it here but shopping is a chore as there are not any decent shops for miles upon miles... :med:
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Re: Darrens new workshop
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2009, 02:36:16 PM »
Thought it might be time for an update,

Going is slow, I've never slated a roof before and there is quite a bit involved esp working out where to start, overhangs etc. The trick is not to cut any to size to keep the whole roof even looking.....still, it's coming along..bit at a time... :)

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Re: Darrens new workshop
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2009, 04:14:55 PM »
Just said this but... I think you're going quickly.... I'd be draggin' my heels!


Wouldn't it be nice if you could start from the top and work your way down?  :smart:




Keep it up, you never know when a big lathe or a Briggy might just come your way?   :thumbup:




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Re: Darrens new workshop
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2009, 06:46:36 PM »
I think I'm draggin my heals Ralph...!! But it has rained quite a bit here....

I suppose when you came last Sat there was nothing on so I guess it looks good  :)

A Coldchester Master was offered to me for little money when I bought the mill. It came with an inverter too.
It was the sheer size of the thing that put me off, I mean they are huge...not worried about housing it, just moving the lump is beyond my capabilities.

Too big.....  :doh:



But then again.... :lol:
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Re: Darrens new workshop
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2009, 07:29:32 PM »
I just realised what you meant Ralph.... :lol: :lol: :lol: Draggin heals

I'll let you explain it to the guys............. :ddb: :ddb: :ddb:
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Re: Darrens new workshop
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2009, 07:53:11 PM »
Darren,

That roof is looking pretty good. A couple of questions. Appearently no subroofing material is used, just purlins (the small pieces of wood run running parallel with the slate) to nail the slate to? And does the slate have holes in it already to nail through?

It's facinating to see how in different countries the build techniques are so much different.

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Re: Darrens new workshop
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2009, 08:03:51 PM »
Hi Bernd,

No purlings in this roof, what we have here are trusses, though I made them up myself. The down bits we call rafters and the cross pieces we call battens.

The rafters are 2x4's and the rafters are 2x1's. The sheet is a breathable waterproof membrane.

The proper way to slate a roof is to sheet the whole roof in ply, then the water proof membrane, battens and finally the slates themselves. but in all the years I have crawled in roof spaces as an electrician I have never once seen the ply sheets...

Do you use ply over there?

Most slates come ready holed, but I'm tight so bought mine without to save on cost. 700 slates would have cost me £90 to have holed. I did it in 3hrs so that's £30 an hour.
I'd do it all day for £30 an hr...!!

You just bang a 4" nail through with a hammer to make the holes. I made a wooden frame/jig and did four slates at a time. You could hole them as you put them up with the copper nails but it's easier if you hole them on the ground first.



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Re: Darrens new workshop
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2009, 08:08:03 PM »
BTW, Here I could have used metal sheets, polyroof, or just about anything for a garage or shed.

But in this area of the UK all house roofs have to have slate, a ruling to help the local industry as it's a slate mining area, nothing else is allowed. Slate is produced here but everyone, inc me, uses Spanish slate..

Go figure....
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Re: Darrens new workshop
« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2009, 08:17:39 PM »
I like slates, they are permanent.



Shot of the back of our house, the main roof was put up in 1901, the kitchen extension is done with new slates and was done in 2004 and there is hardly any difference.

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Re: Darrens new workshop
« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2009, 08:22:06 PM »
I'm still trying to work out why you needed an extension .....  :lol:

That house is huge.... :clap:

Yes, I like slates, next door has just had it's roof re done, last time was nearly 200yrs ago apparently.
And they reused the old slates, nothing wrong with them. Just some of the timbers had gone, but not all of them !!

I chose slate cos I'm getting older, 10-15yrs other products would need attention and I would be way past getting up there again.
By the time this roof needs looking at I'll be long gone  :ddb:
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