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Offline Stilldrillin

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20off, P51 Mustangs........
« on: March 23, 2015, 01:15:19 PM »
This was posted, by a member of my other forum.

Enjoy.......




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Re: 20off, P51 Mustangs........
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2015, 02:35:33 PM »
Really nice seeing them in their colours....
I love 2nd WW aircraft, the P51 is among my favourites....

Thnx for sharing David... :bow:
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Re: 20off, P51 Mustangs........
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2015, 03:22:33 AM »
The sound of a RR Merlin... Gul Kalle (Yellow Charlie), on an open day in Tullinge (since closed) doing a low pass... For a lot of previous generations in Europe, this sound was the sound of FREEDOM, whether from a Spitfire or a Mustang, or from multiple engines on a Lancaster or Mosquito...

Thanks for bringing back happy memories!

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Re: 20off, P51 Mustangs........
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2015, 04:17:01 PM »
John, Kjelle.

Thanks for your comments.

I don't remember WW2, of course, though I was born, in the middle of it.
Why does such a sound/ sight, touch me. Sufficient to almost move me to tears?


Here's another, you might like to see.......




The sound is much improved, through headphones. Particularly, if you are a bit deaf, like me. 

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Re: 20off, P51 Mustangs........
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2015, 05:04:50 PM »
16 Spitfires? Is that all?  In 1949, we had two Spitfire squadrons,  601 County of London and 604 County of Middlesex based at RAF Hendon, now the RAF Museum. In addition we had the 3 VIP Spitfires belonging to the Bigwigs of Air Ministry. It got a bit noisy on a weekend from these jockeys swanning about.  It was 'normal' to bounce the wheels off the cookhouse roof on approach.


All quite jolly- until one went a bit deaf.  Eventually, there were painted ones. Watch the Dirty Dozen again and the guardroom bit- that was Hendon.

Pardon, eh?

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Re: 20off, P51 Mustangs........
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2015, 02:37:01 PM »
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This was posted, by a member of my other forum

Can I ask which other forum? I've seen this link before you see ...

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Re: 20off, P51 Mustangs........
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2015, 04:01:50 PM »
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This was posted, by a member of my other forum

Can I ask which other forum? I've seen this link before you see ...

If the word "Drifter" means anything to you please drop me a PM.

Hi Pete.

My other forum, as I call it, is the Steamtoys Forum. http://modelsteam.myfreeforum.org/index.php

Dunno about, "Drifter". But, I'll drop you a pm, whether or not.......  :thumbup:

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Re: 20off, P51 Mustangs........
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2015, 06:19:43 PM »
I fly a model spitfire, it's a fantastic plane. I started building a P-51, carved the fuselage but never finished it. I'd really like to do a Hurricane some day.

This is what my stepfather flew out of Saipan:

I love it when a Plan B comes together!
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Re: 20off, P51 Mustangs........
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2015, 04:22:35 AM »
I fly a model spitfire, it's a fantastic plane. I started building a P-51, carved the fuselage but never finished it. I'd really like to do a Hurricane some day.


Trouble with model Spits and Huries is that they don't really scale down. I made a so called flying scale 'rubber powered' one in 1939. I was all of 9 years. Never really flew properly. What really turned me on- then and ever since was was a Supermarine S6B model by Keelbuild of Newcastle. It was Boothman's plane who incidentally had one of the Hendon Spits when I was a lad.  The Warbird SL-721 IS a Hendon spit flown by 'Jimmy' Robb and my 31 Squadron 'boss' Arthur Fane De Salis. Its engine fitter has just added a note in StarNews of TB-713 and how its plexiglass cockpit canopy sort of surprised a lady hanging out the washing!

Just a note but Spitfires cost £5000 then. 601 Squadron was the 'Millionaires Squadron'. To qualify,  one had to be stinking rich and have survived 400 hours. The 'boss' was Max Aitken whose father, Lord Beaverbrook- a newspaper tycoon- was Minister of Aircraft Production.

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Re: 20off, P51 Mustangs........
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2015, 11:51:30 AM »
No Norman, agreed, planes don't exactly scale down. But some things do translate enough to be noticeable in comparison with other models. Eliptical planform, tail moment, degree of streamlining, etc do have an effect on a model's performance and it is possible to say the Spitfire I fly is a fantastic performing plane and not think it entirely coincidental.
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Re: 20off, P51 Mustangs........
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2015, 01:53:38 PM »
20 years ago, I went over to London, to meet a guy named Steve Bennet, then working at Cars & Car Conversions (remember that mag?) down at Goodwood race track. While there, at least one, if not two Spitfires went up for a flight... One was a 2 seater owned and flown by a woman I don't remember the name of (she was written about, as she took on her decesed husbands project, the Spitfire, and finished it, and for June 6, 1994, managed to locate the very ferry pilot that delivered HER Spit to the combat Sqn, AND the very pilot that flew it over the beaches during that day. I think both got a ride with her, the ferry pilot, a woman, to whatever the base was, and the combat pilot for a ride over the beaches...)

We had a few photo-recce Spits here in Sweden too, but that was later marks...

To me, a RR Merlin on full throttle in a low pass is one of the best sounds I know... And this from a guy raised during the 60's, with SAAB 35 Draken starting just around the bend from home!

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Re: 20off, P51 Mustangs........
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2015, 08:36:59 PM »
I have  a two seat Spit lives two or three fields away from me, fantastic here in the show season as he lifts off over the house. The lad has been up in her a hlf dozen times as he mends the guys old cars, me only once. When we get better internet i will put some pics on.

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Re: 20off, P51 Mustangs........
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2015, 04:09:41 AM »
20 years ago, I went over to London, to meet a guy named Steve Bennet, then working at Cars & Car Conversions (remember that mag?) down at Goodwood race track.
Kjelle

Cars and Car Conversions? I devoured the Clive Trickey articles on Mini Tuning. Steve Bennet comes to mind. Did he drive a Mercedes SLK 230 and was a former member of RAF 31 Squadron? If so I parked mine along side at our Reunion to watch the Tornado flypast. Lost touch, most of us are dead or worse.

We had a Spit- probably with a  Griffon in the sharp end but made wider to get a Martin Baker ejector seat in. Any bright thoughts?

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Re: 20off, P51 Mustangs........
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2015, 03:44:02 PM »
Wrong Steve, this guy makes me seem old! I guess his in his 40's now (Editor of Porsche & 911 world now)...

I found CCC after Clive Trickey, and have since lost almost all my copies, when moving... I was there for the last 10 or so years, met a few of the guys (Dave Walker of Emerald Cams was one hell of nice guy too)

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Re: 20off, P51 Mustangs........
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2015, 04:08:42 PM »
Shame really! The mags were really sensible reads. I recall reworking  a 12G295 or 296 cylinder head up. It was from a MG1100 not a 998 Cooper. I then had a £10 scrap 997 block overbored 60thous. Great info. which worked.

Probably your access to further copies of CCC would be to try the British Library -actually in Colindale Avenue, NW9 next to the RAF Hendon Guardroom. Dirty Dozen and all that.

Following the posting on Merlins on the 51D's, I got two stories. One came of a plexiglas cockpit cover from a Hendon Spit and the other was the Utube of the last of Lancasters -the Canadian Warbird one and the BBMF one flying together in the UK. Sorry, I tried to load it- and failed.

Video came down from the rest of the Goldstars. Maybe someone can have more success.

The BBMF Devon- the original 'hack'was VP-981- another Hendon aircraft which I flew in - on a 'subsmash' job--HMS Truculent off Sheerness.

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Re: 20off, P51 Mustangs........
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2015, 05:19:49 PM »
And don't forget tripple C's rival: "Hot Bra" as it was called in the derogative!

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Re: 20off, P51 Mustangs........
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2015, 07:18:01 PM »
Absolutely beautiful classics.  Thanks for posting.

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Re: 20off, P51 Mustangs........
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2015, 02:11:26 AM »
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One was a 2 seater owned and flown by a woman I don't remember the name of (she was written about, as she took on her decesed husbands project, the Spitfire,

Would that have been Charles Church's widow?