Any ID on this lathe? - a project needing TLC or scrap?

[raynerd]

Hi Guys

Anyone any idea what this lathe is from the photos? Looks old and in need of TLC but it is soon to be in my possession. Will it be of any use or is it only good for scrap? Tooling shown comes with it.





Advice welcome - regarding getting it, the story goes something like this. I use auction stealer on ebay so don`t bid myself, the computer programme does it right before the end of the auction. Before I found this forum and got my lathe I saw this one come up, it is around the corner from me literally and put a low bid in. Anyway, I forgot I had bid and did not cancel the auctionstealer bid. Needless to say, I won. If it really is worthless than I`ll probably put it back on. Then again, could make a nice project!

Chris

[Darren]

Could it be a Boley...http://www.lathes.co.uk/boley/index.html

Hard to tell from the pic,

[sbwhart]

I'd hang onto there may be some useful bits you could salvage some time

Stew

[John Hill]

It has the look of something cobbled out of parts,  the bed etc looks too small for the cross side for example.

Looks like he used it to make a ball turner!

[Darren]

Well if it is a Boley then it's quite collectible and capable in it's own class. It certainly has the looks of one, but they were copied quite a bit.

The beds are reputed to be very stiff, my lathe bed follows a similar pattern as many did.

[raynerd]

lol,

Looks like he used it to make a ball turner!

- I guess that was bait? 


Looks like there is a little bit of tooling with it which might clean up - OK? I agree that the lathe bed looks small in comparison to the cross slide and the tool post holder also looks big in the grand scheme of things. Perhaps someone has cobbled this together out of parts. This could be converted to that milling machine I can`t afford  or maybe not.....

I hope is it a Boley Darren, however the base looks different and there seems to be no manufacturor markings. Although it looks beaten up, it is apparently running.
Chris

[bogstandard]

That is definitely a lathe made by Bitsacrapoli, of 1, Bodgestreet Road, Manchester.

It looks like the main bit of the bed, from just under the chuck to the back end of the tailstock was the original casting. Whether it was a lathe or something totally different can only be guessed at. It could be a bit off a weaving loom or something similar, that someone decided to do a Madmodder project with.

 

If it can be used, use it. If not cannibalise and use the bits elsewhere.

Bogs

[John Hill]

lol,

Looks like he used it to make a ball turner!

- I guess that was bait? 

Errrr.... note generous brass orbs on tool holder and cross slide handles!

[John Hill]

I think it just might be a Boley but the bed, headstock, tail stock and carriage have been replaced at some time and the drive assembly is from something else too.

[bogstandard]

Ah John,

But I have noticed a screw very similar to one used on a Boley.

Bogs

[raynerd]

Oh
So basically I have a heap of junk?

[John Hill]

Oh
So basically I have a heap of junk?

Just change a few bits and you will have a very nice Boley!

Seriously though, there will be some useful bits in there, chuck, cone pulleys and those brass oilers might bring more as individual items than you paid for the lot.

[bogstandard]

Nothing is a heap of junk Chris, just because it is unrecogniseable, means nothing. It was just John and myself making a bit of humour at your expense, as we do with anyone at each and every opportunity.

As I said, if it can be made to work, a second roughing lathe comes in very handy, especially if your main lathe is tied up on a speciality set up.
Why knock the crap out of your soon to be set up precision lathe, when you can do all your heavy cuts and crap knocking on this one, then transfer it over to your other for final finishing.

John

[raynerd]

John, describing my Clarke 300 as a "soon to be set up precision lathe" - that made me very happy! 

I picked up the lathe today - surface rust is pretty bad but should clean up. Lathe is running but not turned anything on it yet. Some pics for you:











At the back of the tail stock is a rod, if you twist it around and push it up against the spring loaded tailstock it allows you to "peck" the tailstock - is this the correct use?






I also got quite a bit of tooling with it - would appreciate it if you could tell me exactly what it is and what it is used for.













   



I think I`m pleased with it - any comments welcome.

Chris

[sbwhart]

You've got a mixed bag there

Ok lets have a try

Pic 1 Drills chucks and chuck jaws

Pic 2 Morse taper sleeves like M2, A dead centre for wood turning, Long series drills on M2 tapers, Remers on M2 tapers, not shure could be a knurl.

Pic 3 Turning tools various

Pic 4 Reamers and an end mill

Pic 5 Reamers and an end mill

Pic 6 ?  and centre drills on the left

Pic 7 ?

hope this helps

Stew

[raynerd]

Hi, thanks, what would an end mill be used for on a lathe? Also, what are the MT sleeves used for?

Chris

[sbwhart]

End Mills are mainly a milling machine tool

Drills or reamers can come withe different morse tapers so say your machine has a No 3 MS in the tail stop and you've got a drill with No 1 morse taper you use a No 1 to a No 3 sleeve to bring it up to size.

Stew