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Offline PhiberOptix

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Machine Vice
« on: September 09, 2009, 11:48:12 AM »
This is the stage I was at Last night, basic stuff just milled out a large portion and a quick lick with a fly cutter


todays efforts

milled a slot in the side and center drilled, pilot drilled, and 8mm drilled and couter sunk the holes



milled a slot thru the base

then 5mm slot for running guides for the back jaw

this is as far as i got
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Re: Machine Vice
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2009, 12:02:16 PM »
Looking good there.  :headbang:

That's a bit of a chicken and egg situation I suppose - helps if you've got a machine vice in order to make a machine vice. :scratch:
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Re: Machine Vice
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2009, 02:13:22 PM »
That is starting to look very nice. Very professional looking. Keep up the build log!

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Re: Machine Vice
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2009, 09:08:40 PM »
That's looking good, I'd be very interested to see the next stages... :thumbup:
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Re: Machine Vice
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2009, 02:13:24 AM »
Good going on that vice Andy  :clap:

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Re: Machine Vice
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2009, 03:38:07 AM »
Nice 1! Looks like you have  :proj:

I had one of those sort of vices many moons ago when I had a little sherline milling machine. The vice was brilliant! The machine was really accurate to give it its due but a just for small things! Didn't have a quill feed either which limited it a bit!

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Re: Machine Vice
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2009, 12:59:27 PM »
turning the chamfer on the mushroom ring now need to drill it and part it off

Fly cut finish on back of rear jaw ready for drilling for locking mechanism

vice and parts for locking mechanism so far
(needs a longer caphead the biggest i have it too short)


once I get a longer caphead tomorrow i can give the vice a final fly cut
also thinking of making some alternative jaws in brass and stainless to fix to the existing ones

 
« Last Edit: September 10, 2009, 01:02:57 PM by PhiberOptix »
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Re: Machine Vice
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2009, 03:05:55 PM »
Looks great, I found my vice very accurate and possible to get a high clamping force. good design as it's always pulling the jaw down as well.
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Re: Machine Vice
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2009, 03:46:59 PM »
Interesting project. Is that aluminum you are working on?



 



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Re: Machine Vice
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2009, 04:12:26 PM »
Interesting project. Is that aluminum you are working on?


Yes its Aluminium (Aircraft grade) It is to be used for Aluminum only until I make some Brass and Stainless Jaws for her
I may even have her anodised

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Re: Machine Vice
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2009, 04:13:19 PM »
Just wondering, how are you going to clamp it down to the table?
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Re: Machine Vice
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2009, 04:43:04 PM »
Is there spesific english language term for that kind of machine vice? I'm willing to build one(two, maybe three) small(er) versions for special purposes.

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Re: Machine Vice
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2009, 04:51:37 PM »
Just wondering, how are you going to clamp it down to the table?

I'm not lol, its going sideways in the vice it was made in

but...

I guess you can put longer pins thu the side holes and clamp down on them
or mill clamping slots in the ends & sides
I have seen blocks with pegs in the side just for clamping these down
but mines going in another vice so you adapt/mod your to you needs

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Re: Machine Vice
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2009, 05:07:37 PM »
Is there spesific english language term for that kind of machine vice? I'm willing to build one(two, maybe three) small(er) versions for special purposes.

I have only ever know them as a machinist's vice I am unaware of any specific name
I'm sure it probably has one I just dont know it, maybe someone could enlighten us

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« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2009, 06:07:12 PM »
First ones on here

http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Workholding/Machine-Vices

I use a 1" one all the time for holding small stuff in my larger vices.


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Re: Machine Vice
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2009, 07:04:35 PM »
I've seen them called tool makers vices before, think they are all ground, high precision things though.
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Re: Machine Vice
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2009, 07:41:22 PM »
Andy, nice project you have started there.  I am been kicking around building one also probably this fall when things slow down a bit.  keep up posted with your build..:)

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Re: Machine Vice
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2009, 11:33:50 AM »
The starts of a small vice been fly cut


sorry go carried away and forgot to take pics

All done except the polishing
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Re: Machine Vice
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2009, 08:26:51 AM »
and after a quick polish the baby of the two vices vice looks like this
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Re: Machine Vice
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2009, 08:28:54 AM »
I do like your vices  :lol:

Esp the dinky one as I could do with one of those. I have some bars of cast steel I may have a go with......on top of all the other things I want to do of course....... :doh:
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Re: Machine Vice
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2009, 01:44:09 PM »
Is there some kind of T-piece, where tightening screw goes?

I have seen that kind of vices only on pictures.

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Re: Machine Vice
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2009, 02:01:53 PM »
Is there some kind of T-piece, where tightening screw goes?

There is a plan on

http://www.projectsinmetal.com/free-metalworking-project-plans-toolmakers-screwless-vise-mill/

Hope this works / helps

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Re: Machine Vice
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2009, 02:37:16 PM »
Is there some kind of T-piece, where tightening screw goes?

I have seen that kind of vices only on pictures.

yes there is a 'T' piece






All I used was a slice of round stock drilled and taped to match the locking cap head
and an off center hole thu the side for the locking pin (in this case a 1mm wire)
also there is a slot milled in the underside of the jaw to locate the slice into
to stop it rotating whilst putting the pin thu

There are plans for this vice but i did not use any

Hope this helps

The same method was used in her bigger sister
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Re: Machine Vice
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2009, 03:18:48 PM »
Thanks for the replies! They helped me to understand the mechanism :beer:.


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Re: Machine Vice
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2009, 05:29:54 PM »
Good going Andy  :clap: :clap:
And to think you groaned about Tiny being small  :lol: - come to think of it, have you found a compressor yet ?

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Re: Machine Vice
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2009, 05:44:00 PM »
Good going Andy  :clap: :clap:
And to think you groaned about Tiny being small  :lol: - come to think of it, have you found a compressor yet ?

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Hi Arnold

Small is an understatement - drilling sidways tru a 1/16th wire with a #57 drill bit and then make a pin to go into that hole - god did I need zoom eyeballs for that :lol: had to resort to making a jig in the end.

No havent found one low enough (3-5 psi) I thought about canned air too but rejected that idea when I saw the cost so now going with the 'Build a boiler'
and run her off steam and hopefully the elbow engine too, so so many projects ;)

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