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Big shop changes in the longer term...
« on: November 04, 2009, 04:53:46 PM »
I am facing some pretty big changes in the longer term.   Having well and truly entered the ranks of Ye Olde Pharts the income is not what it once was and tired old bones do not cope well with stairs and steep streets so we will be selling our home in Wellington and moving to "The Mainland"  (South Island) to my home town of Ashburton (population 16K) http://www.ashburtondistrict.co.nz/.

A considerable down grade in housing will release enough capital to keep bread and water on the table for some time and allow for some shed time.

Ashburton is a town of generous sized residential secitons but many sections have been sub-divided the result being that the choices are old houses with plenty of space or newer houses with less space.  The challenge will be to find an acceptable place with either existing workshop space or space to build.  If we can keep our expectactions down to something like this one....

 http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=245749072
... we will have about the same disposable cash flow as we have how which would be nice.

Other choices are places like this one...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-me-property/Residential-property/Houses-for-sale/auction-248213152.htm
...look at all that space to build on to the back to the triple garage!


Or by stretching the budget a little, this one...




...which has four car garaging and still appears to have enough room to park the odd derilect Vauxhall!
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Re: Big shop changes in the longer term...
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2009, 07:51:00 PM »
There are some nice looking homes down there.

Looks like the last pic you show there is a guy into restoring cars. Pic in the upper right shows a blue tarp over, what I assume, is an old car. Probably not the kind of niegbor you'd want. would probably keep bugging you to make parts fro him.  :lol:

Just checked out the prices. Ouch. Didn't know they cost that much down there. I'd probably get close to a 7 figure amount for mine, if I ever get it finished. What the heck are gas prices down there?

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Re: Big shop changes in the longer term...
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2009, 07:53:29 PM »
They all look nice John. You are very fortunate to have such choices  :clap:

I notice they all have good sized overhanging roofs, is that for sun shade ....  :(
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Re: Big shop changes in the longer term...
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2009, 08:09:55 PM »
They all look nice John. You are very fortunate to have such choices  :clap:

I notice they all have good sized overhanging roofs, is that for sun shade ....  :(

That town is about 44 degrees south, equivalent to about Portugal, so yes they are sun shades.
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Re: Big shop changes in the longer term...
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2009, 08:14:20 PM »
There are some nice looking homes down there.

Looks like the last pic you show there is a guy into restoring cars. Pic in the upper right shows a blue tarp over, what I assume, is an old car. Probably not the kind of niegbor you'd want. would probably keep bugging you to make parts fro him.  :lol:
I guess that is on the property that is for sale so I expect that will be going with them.  It is a Vauxhall from about 1948.


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Just checked out the prices. Ouch. Didn't know they cost that much down there. I'd probably get close to a 7 figure amount for mine, if I ever get it finished. What the heck are gas prices down there?

Bernd

Houses in that town are a lot cheaper than were we are now.  I do not think you can easily make a direct comparison and dont forget those are NZ dollars (though yours has been so wonky lately they may soon be the same.)  Petrol is expensive, about NZ$1.65 per litre.
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Re: Big shop changes in the longer term...
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2009, 10:02:24 AM »
Petrol is expensive, about NZ$1.65 per litre.

That comes to $6.9741 per US gallon. And we complain when gas hits $3.00 a gallon.

Good luck in finding a new workshop. The house is secondary.

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Re: Big shop changes in the longer term...
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2009, 12:26:30 PM »
That's still cheap, try buying it here
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Re: Big shop changes in the longer term...
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2009, 02:33:23 PM »
Petrol is expensive, about NZ$1.65 per litre.

That comes to $6.9741 per US gallon. And we complain when gas hits $3.00 a gallon.

Good luck in finding a new workshop. The house is secondary.

Bernd

Bernd,  your calculator might need a bit of attention as I think it equates to about US$3.50 per gallon.

NZ is a free market in most comodities** but gasoline is an exception with a rather significant tax on it.

**Instead of sales taxes, duties and tariffs there is a universal 12.5%  GST  (i.e. VAT).
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Re: Big shop changes in the longer term...
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2009, 03:07:22 PM »
That's still cheap, try buying it here

Quite true Darren!

Oh, the hardships we stoic Brits have to endure   :(

At £ 1.05 per litre and £1.00 = $1.66, also 1 gallon Imp. = 1.2 gallons US ...

I make it equivalent to some $6.59 per US Gallon ... and it don't produce any more BHP either ...

Please send food parcels ASAP ...

Will break off now, faint and weak from malnutrition ...

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Re: Big shop changes in the longer term...
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2009, 03:49:19 PM »
Oh dear Dave, I did not realise it was still so bad over there.  Have a look down the back of the sofa and see if you can find 10 quid, take it down to NZ House and they will give you a ticket for a ship to bring you here to a life of ease and drunken gluttony.
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Re: Big shop changes in the longer term...
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2009, 04:19:54 PM »
John

Too late .. Burnt the sofa to cook a morsel of roadkill I found ....

BTW very nearly did emigrate to NZ in (1983 I think, was certainly the year after really destructive fires in Tasmania), did the immigration thing at NZ House in London. Medical OK, enough funds etc. ... but never went. (LMF ??) Was put off the idea 'cos a mate had been there for a year or so, sed NZ folk were a bunch of parochial sods, never talked to him etc. etc. Awful place. He returned to UK, decided UK was even worse, went back to NZ, and AFAIK is still there ??
Dunno what would have happened if I had gone?
Well, that episode plus some other uncertainties caused me to abandon the idea.

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Re: Big shop changes in the longer term...
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2009, 04:22:14 PM »
John

Too late .. Burnt the sofa to cook a morsel of roadkill ....

Dave BC

Never mind, if you have a criminal record go to Australia House and they will take you for free! :)
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Re: Big shop changes in the longer term...
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2009, 04:24:20 PM »
Oh dear Dave, I did not realise it was still so bad over there.  

Dave's post was obviously based on this mornings price, I filled up this afternoon and it was £1.09 per litre = $6.84 per US Gallon  ........  :bugeye: .......... by the weekend after next we could all be living in caves   :smart:

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Re: Big shop changes in the longer term...
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2009, 04:32:54 PM »

I can trump that, £1.18/litre at Texaco in Marlborough this afternoon but that may be something to to with the fact that there is no where else to fill up within 20 miles.

I better get one of my kidneys up for sale soon to fund the fuel costs to get to Harrogate next year.
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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2009, 04:34:58 PM »
Dave,

Try this, it might leave you enough at the end of the week to buy a couple of rounds of stale bread. Those dogs of yours must be looking very tasty by now. Real hot dogs!!

http://online.arval.co.uk/index.cfm?fuseaction=fuelPricing.Network&NW=fuel


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Re: Big shop changes in the longer term...
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2009, 04:36:48 PM »

£1.18/litre at Texaco in Marlborough 

Jeez ............. no wonder our MP's need a £30k a year rise  :bang:

Take the train to Harrogate David, it should be a nad's under £500  :scratch:  :poke: :bang:

gawd elp us all   :med:

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Re: Big shop changes in the longer term...
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2009, 04:38:09 PM »

by the weekend after next we could all be living in caves   :smart:

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You would be living in a cave if you came here anyway, this is a typical NZ housing estate, nice eh?
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Re: Big shop changes in the longer term...
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2009, 04:44:27 PM »
And I thought Hobbit's came from Yorkshire  :coffee:

Anyway John, back to your thread ........ sorry for the diversion ..........  :poke: ............ They all look nice, I suppose it's a budget thing really ....... given the choice Number 3 looks great  :thumbup: ....... have fun looking and winding up the sales dude's  :coffee: and good luck with your search.

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Re: Big shop changes in the longer term...
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2009, 04:45:03 PM »
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by the weekend after next we could all be living in caves  

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You would be living in a cave if you came here anyway, this is a typical NZ housing estate, nice eh?

ooh SWMBO would love that (judging by her feet I think she is 1/2 hobbit anyway)
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Re: Big shop changes in the longer term...
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2009, 04:58:58 PM »
John BS  

We still got diesel @ £1.04 nearby ...   :D  :D I'm thinking of going into the export business to TSq :)

Not my dog. Was looking after it for a mate on holiday. Amusing little bugger, great fun. .. wonder what it tastes like tho ... Hmmm ..

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I don't have a criminal record .. ( you should not try to extrapolate that statement to mean I have committed no crime!!) the market in those has been cornered by a certain bunch of parasites in Westminster. Now, if we could export that bunch of Toerags to OZ, I suspect our situation would improve no end ...

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« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2009, 05:16:31 PM »
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Never mind, if you have a criminal record go to Australia House and they will take you for free

Nah! They send you to Christmas Island or Anchor you off of Indonesia now.

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Re: Big shop changes in the longer term...
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2009, 05:17:17 PM »
.... Now, if we could export that bunch of Toerags to OZ, I suspect our situation would improve no end ...

Dave BC

Quite a few of our people move to OZ each year, it is a sort of ANZAC cooperative thing and enhances the average IQ of both countries.
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Re: Big shop changes in the longer term...
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2009, 05:18:47 PM »
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Never mind, if you have a criminal record go to Australia House and they will take you for free

Nah! They send you to Christmas Island or Anchor you off of Indonesia now.

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Those are the ones without criminal records...
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Re: Big shop changes in the longer term...
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2009, 05:29:39 PM »
£1.04.50/ltr  here, quite a variation across the UK ...
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Re: Big shop changes in the longer term...
« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2009, 08:14:17 PM »
We are just back from a short expedition to the Mainland to look at houses.  That brick one, the first photo in the opening post turned out to be not so attractive and it has absolutely no land around the house, scratch that one, scratch a few other too for one reason or another.

I think we will be having a new house built which means I get to choose the size of my 'shop. :ddb:  After initial dreams of a huge barn I have decided that big just means a bigger mess and that I should be content with a size that will always be tidy,  6 x 4 metres would seem adequate.  Any thoughts on this?

I do need a bit of space around the house as my Lego train set occupies a 20' shipping container and I must find a place for that which is not in the face of neighbourhood busybodies.
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