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Re: Penny Farthing Bicycle
« Reply #275 on: May 29, 2012, 09:27:17 PM »
I do love it when a plan comes together :med:

I started smoothing up my welds. I think I got plenty of weld on here:o) Only a little bit more left to come off\o/ I still wanted some on there after they were smoothed up.



Thanks for watching:o)

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Re: Penny Farthing Bicycle
« Reply #276 on: May 29, 2012, 10:23:48 PM »
I dont pay attention for a few days and you get a lot done!

Love watching this build...
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Re: Penny Farthing Bicycle
« Reply #277 on: May 30, 2012, 10:00:10 PM »
I am a dang  :med: genius!!! I've been trying to come up with  a jig to hold these forks while I braze them together. It came to me like a bolt of lightening :zap: While I was on the toilet :D :D :D

Stay tuned:o)

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Re: Penny Farthing Bicycle
« Reply #278 on: May 31, 2012, 02:06:16 PM »
I am a dang  :med: genius!!!

~Wes~

Wes, I had always thought that, you only had to ask me  :lol:

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Re: Penny Farthing Bicycle
« Reply #279 on: June 01, 2012, 12:05:19 PM »
Ok, I've been putting off building the jigs for the forks because I had way over engineered them. I had all kinds of welding and machining involved. The other night while on the crapper It came to me:o) I couldn't believe It would be so simple.

I laid out the spacer I had made earlier for the fork ends and drilled and tapped it.



Then using the all thread that I used to hold the forks while welding. I bolted the whole lot together.





I have something similar planned for the front forks. It will be a little more complex though.

~Wes~
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Re: Penny Farthing Bicycle
« Reply #280 on: June 01, 2012, 02:36:01 PM »
Wes.

You are a dang  :med: genius!!!

Very well thought through.........   :clap: :clap: :thumbup:

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Re: Penny Farthing Bicycle
« Reply #281 on: June 01, 2012, 02:50:41 PM »
Wes

I have been following along on your build since the start. I can see that you have planned and thought out each part as you go. It all looks like it is coming together very well. As to welding those forks together, as David D says
"Very well thought through.........   :clap: :clap: :thumbup:"
I'll be watching as the rest of it all comes together to be a classic ride.  :D :D

Cheers  :beer:

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Re: Penny Farthing Bicycle
« Reply #282 on: June 04, 2012, 09:55:05 PM »
I had to file the holes just a little to get the tubes to fit into their holes. I think a little more and it'll fall together:o) The bottom plate has to come up a little so the legs will spread far enough to fit the jig.



Here is a side view.



And a couple other views. I know how everyone likes pictures:o)





I need to ever so slightly bend the tube. I'll probably do it in my press. I need a way to make it repeatable. Maybe a couple spacers?

Later,

~Wes~
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A Gismo ??? If it has a flywheel or spins and is made with small parts. I'll take one! If it makes noise, moves, or requires frequent oiling and dusting it's a better deal yet. It's especially right if its shiny and bright; but if it's dirty and dull it wont mater at all...

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Re: Penny Farthing Bicycle
« Reply #283 on: June 08, 2012, 04:07:47 AM »
I can't believe I've missed this thread earlier!  :doh:

Way to go, Wes! I have been reading through twice now just to take it all in. Fantastic work and very inspirational. I will be building one myself whenever i get a proper workshop.

Absolutely fantastic! Looking forward to the next installment!
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Re: Penny Farthing Bicycle
« Reply #284 on: June 09, 2012, 07:58:32 PM »
I'm really glad everyone is having fun watching me build this. Like many I also wish it was going faster. My day job and just things in everyday life seem to get in the way of quality shop time. But i was out there today:o)

I'm building a little drill jig to guide the drill bit when I drill my spoke holes in the rim. I am using some square stock. I held it in a V-block in my angle vise to drill the guide holes. I am compromising a little on the jig. For the big wheel the angle is about 2 degrees more than needed and for the small wheel it is about 2 degrees less  than needed. There should be enough play in everything to make up the difference. Here I am centering the stock below the spindle of my mill.



To drill the hole I need a flat spot so the hole will start accurately. I mill a small flat, then center drill and drill it.



I then mill a little bit of relief in the middle of the guide. This way it can clamp down squarely and not rock. I do this on two sides.



Here it is clamped to the rim. I can peek down the hole and align the guide with my mark then clamp it into place. The holes should all be crooked by the same amount:o)



Here's a side view.



Thanks for watching:o)

~Wes~
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Re: Penny Farthing Bicycle
« Reply #285 on: June 10, 2012, 02:20:51 AM »
Wes.
As I said, earlier. I love following your train of thought...........  :smart:

Now...... That set up, is blummin clever!  :clap: :clap:

Well done. Hope the drilling goes ok.  :thumbup:

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Re: Penny Farthing Bicycle
« Reply #286 on: June 10, 2012, 04:37:10 AM »
I'm with David on this one - that's a very clever setup, very nicely thought out, made and executed.

Although I'm sure to be impressed with the final product, I have to say that the journey is fascinating and I almost don't want it to end...
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Re: Penny Farthing Bicycle
« Reply #287 on: July 10, 2012, 03:45:17 AM »
  Hi Wes, I am new to posting but have been watching projects on the forum for a while , your Penny farthing being one of the most interesting  :clap: , total class I am looking forward to seeing the wheels develop and also the finished cycle............. Keep up the good work  :thumbup:

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Re: Penny Farthing Bicycle
« Reply #288 on: July 10, 2012, 04:58:19 AM »
hi its cuming a long niceley

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Re: Penny Farthing Bicycle
« Reply #289 on: January 30, 2013, 09:39:53 PM »
I'm back at it\o/

I spent the last couple hours out in my shop building Penny parts\o/ I left off with the spoke nipples half done. I started facing them off to length and tapping them. 10 down\o/   A lot to go... I'll post some pictures soon:o)

~Wes~
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A Gismo ??? If it has a flywheel or spins and is made with small parts. I'll take one! If it makes noise, moves, or requires frequent oiling and dusting it's a better deal yet. It's especially right if its shiny and bright; but if it's dirty and dull it wont mater at all...

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Re: Penny Farthing Bicycle
« Reply #290 on: January 31, 2013, 04:23:10 AM »
Wes,

I'm very much looking forward to the rest of the story and to finally seeing a photo of you riding it.

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Re: Penny Farthing Bicycle
« Reply #291 on: January 31, 2013, 05:58:34 AM »
I'm back at it\o/

It's great to hear that Wes!  :thumbup: :clap:

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Re: Penny Farthing Bicycle
« Reply #292 on: January 31, 2013, 01:39:21 PM »
Cool.   I had lost track of this very interesting project.

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Re: Penny Farthing Bicycle
« Reply #293 on: January 31, 2013, 08:30:26 PM »
Here is how the nipples were left. They are too long and have a burr left over from the previous operation.



I had a old lathe tool that had about the right shape. So I'm using it to form the head of the nipple.



I then tap the hole. These small taps are pretty fragile. I run a starter tap half way in, back it out, wipe off the chips, run it all the way in, Back it out, then run a bottom tap in to the bottom.



Then I pull it out and run a tap in from the other end just to make sure the threads are good. It takes about ten minutes. Give or take:o)

I did 5 more tonight.

~Wes~
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Re: Penny Farthing Bicycle
« Reply #294 on: February 01, 2013, 04:13:28 PM »
Nice to see this project back on the go Wes, You have been missed.
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Re: Penny Farthing Bicycle
« Reply #295 on: February 01, 2013, 05:37:50 PM »
Hi Wes , glad to see you are back onto the project :clap: :thumbup: :thumbup:, I have been watching all along and been very impressed indeed  :drool: :drool: :bow: :bow: , I bet them spokes will be tirersome but worth it once they are done , I am looking forward to seeing things progress , keep up the good work.  Thanks for posting .
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Re: Penny Farthing Bicycle
« Reply #296 on: February 01, 2013, 06:41:05 PM »
Wes,
I just cought up with this log today and couldn't stop reading. The work is amazing and really fun to see you work out puzzles along the way.
Alan

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Re: Penny Farthing Bicycle
« Reply #297 on: February 02, 2013, 05:19:14 AM »
Sweet!   :proj:

Good to see you back at it Wes  :borg:


 Looking forward to seeing the next stage  :dremel:





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Re: Penny Farthing Bicycle
« Reply #298 on: February 02, 2013, 05:38:07 AM »
I've really missed this thread. Great to see you coming back to it.

I have learned so much from this thread - you are a true craftsman.

Look forward to seeing it finished and being ridden.

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Re: Penny Farthing Bicycle
« Reply #299 on: February 02, 2013, 12:18:56 PM »
Thanks Everyone:o)

I'm headed out to my shop now. Probably won't post any pictures. Pretty boring work now. Face, Tap, Repeat. Takes around ten minutes each.

~Wes~
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A Gismo ??? If it has a flywheel or spins and is made with small parts. I'll take one! If it makes noise, moves, or requires frequent oiling and dusting it's a better deal yet. It's especially right if its shiny and bright; but if it's dirty and dull it wont mater at all...