Which is "GREENER"?

[Bernd]

That's the question. Which of these, the one with the four wheels or the one with the eight wheels, is GREENER?

Eight Wheeler

or

Four Wheeler

Good luck on your test. You have till 4:00PM Eastern standard time to answer the question.

Bernd

[dsquire]

Bernd

I am going to give my vote to the Eight Wheeler as being the greenest vehicle overall when everything is factored in.

The only thing that I can think of that might be greener is an electric capture and retrieve boat on the river. 

Cheers 

Don

[John Swift]

 I'll go withe the eight wheeler as well

 if the power for the four wheeler comes from a wind farm you end up
adding to the toxic lakes by the rare earth processing factory
that make the neodynium for the magnets .

 John

[John Hill]

The eight wheeler must be the greener, on several points:

The steam it was designed to run on was waste steam from the paper mill.

It was a total white elephants and white elephants dont eat much.

[fixit]

This can't be answered without argument as  :-

Do we take into account the manufacture of each vehicle ?
        as the making of the steel and forging plus making of the bits must have been very 'dirty' with the eight wheeler.

       The car won't be mutch better as the battery ,motor components ,and tyres are a bit naughty to make

The train :-  runs on steam which has to be generated some way by burning coal/oil.

            How effecient is the train? how many 'stationary boilers' need to be kept burning to make use of it.

The Life time of each vehicle needs to be known. (and you know what us brits think of american cars    ).

How much coffee  or tea is drunk while opperating.


Is the car charged from coal/wind/nuke/tidal/water wheel ?

The IC engine in the car  "what fuel will it run on"

I could go on all night  But i realy like the eight wheeler 

Steve

[Bernd]

I say the eight wheeler too. Reason, no on board generator. The Volt has a gas generator to help charge the battery.

I'm no green weenie and "A" hole at times maybe. I thought it would be fun to see what people have to say about a question like this. I thought it ironic that something built in the 20's or 30's can be greener.

The other thing I notice when something like this gets mentioned is that they forget were some of their product comes from.

That's it. This subject can be dropped now. I'm sure it could start some controversy between people and cause hard feelings.

I also checked out the Nissan Leaf. Interesting the people they interview to get their sales point across. They have a map of dealers. Seems like they are all in the warmer climates. Seems battries work better in warmer climates. Love to see the test results of one of these after about 5 years in the middle of winter in the northern boarder states.

Bernd


Note: If this thread gets out of hand I'll delete it.

[Bernd]

only thing that I can think of that might be greener is an electric capture and retrieve boat on the river. 

Cheers 

Don

Boy, you said you give me a  at every turn I opened my mouth.       

[dsquire]

Bernd

I just had to slide that gentle reminder in there.    Hope that things are all mending up the way they are supposed to so that you will be in tip top shape for the river in a few months. I am waiting for this white stuff to go away so I can get my RC electric car out and have a bit of fun. 

Cheers 

Don

[Bernd]

Don,

Things are going very slow on the mend. A few set backs, but meds will take care of that. Biggest thing that irratates me is lack of ambition and how tired I feel.

Hopefuly by this weekend we are supposed to catch some warm days. Supposed to be up to 50 by next thursaday. I'm itchin to get out a bit for a while.

Also spent a bit of money, bought a spindex, center support for the spindex. All Phase II equipment. Got the 35 pieces Lyndex C5 collets and a new American made drill set by Prescion Drill Company. You know the set fractional, letters and numbers. The shiny set. Was close to $800, Enco got it down to a $575. Not bad.
Just got to clean up the parts now and make some boxes to put all those C5 collets. Ofcourse this calles for a C5 collet closer for the lathe.

 

Bernd

[75Plus]

Ofcourse this calles for a C5 collet closer for the lathe.

Can you use this one? Can't beat the price!!

http://www.grizzly.com/outlet/Collet-Attachment/G8143

[Bernd]

I don't know if that would fit my Logan 10". I'd have to check the dimensions first.

Acutally I want to build one. As soon as I can find the magazine article again I'll post a pic. (Oh no another project added to the list  )

Bernd