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Offline Brass_Machine

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Large lathes, etc... ship building
« on: November 21, 2011, 02:07:02 PM »
Got this link off the Maezine Blog

Ship Building

Has some neat pictures etc...



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Re: Large lathes, etc... ship building
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2011, 02:41:12 PM »
Great stuff, and not a bit of CNC in sight.
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Re: Large lathes, etc... ship building
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2011, 03:11:01 PM »
Eric

Great find. Its always nice to see how they did things years ago.

If anybody is interested in some very big shapers here is 3 links to 3 pictures that I found within the link Eric posted.

http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/guides/images/e/e2/Planingcrsfwebs1.jpg
http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/guides/images/e/ee/Planingcrshwebs2.jpg
http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/guides/images/a/a4/PlaningJointFlangeBedplate.jpg

Those babies take more metal off in one pass then are contained in our whole project.  :D :D

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Re: Large lathes, etc... ship building
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2011, 03:53:12 PM »
Now that's a lathe!

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Re: Large lathes, etc... ship building
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2011, 04:15:25 PM »
Cor...

I wonder if I can fit a chair onto the saddle of my 3 1/2" Drummond... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Large lathes, etc... ship building
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2011, 05:38:53 PM »
What a great set of pictures on the site, reminns me very much of where i spent most of my working life, the worksop looks nearly identical machinery much the same,all that's missing is the noise and smell. I can still hear the planer running with 20 foot long cut on taking cuts about quarter of an inch deep big blue sizzling cuttings flying off and the end of the cut probably an inch wide to lay smoking on the floor you didn't make a habit of standing on them they would burn through the soles of the new rubber soled safety boots. the old leather soled ammunition boots lasted longer. don't know if any other readers here know the ones i mean? they had arrows stitched into the toe caps, gov property. the planer  made by waldrich was later fitted with 2 spindles and insert tooling and then only made little chips. overhead cranes look like they might  made by sir william arroll in glasgow i believe. i had forgotten we had marking out tables that size that had steps to climb up. makes my 12 inch by 18inch look a toy. thanks for finding those Eric,  enjoyed the nostalgia.
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Re: Large lathes, etc... ship building
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2011, 06:24:36 AM »
Why do all the guys look like they are working for either Dr. Evil or the Joker from Batman??

Awesome set of pics!!!
The scale they work on is unbelievable!!!

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Re: Large lathes, etc... ship building
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2011, 06:40:20 AM »
Lovely, you can't help but admire massive - yet precision - engineering, old style.

That said, I found this to be one of the most impressive pictures:



That's cutting through what, 2ft of steel? How much power is there behind that torch? Flipping loads I'll bet. I can't imagine a plasma cutter doing that...
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Re: Large lathes, etc... ship building
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2011, 01:01:06 PM »
Yep I remember those days well when I did my apprenticeship at Tyssen shipyard. Those shapers make chips the size of coke cans
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Re: Large lathes, etc... ship building
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2011, 01:05:01 PM »
Seeing those photos brings back memories of when I was working at the North Eastern Marine engine works at Wallsend On Tyne and later when I sailed on tankers fitted with Doxford engines.  Sadly another relic of the demise of British engineering.

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Re: Large lathes, etc... ship building
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2011, 04:59:52 PM »
Completely fascinating stuff!  :clap: It doesn't look like safety was high on the agenda. I guess if a smoking blue planer chip the size of a coke can hits you, there's not much you could to to protect yourself anyways.

That tracer torch is way cool, and look at how square it's cutting! Awesome!


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Re: Large lathes, etc... ship building
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2011, 05:58:19 PM »
Ah, guys, those are planers not shapers. The forrunner of the bridge mill.

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Re: Large lathes, etc... ship building
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2011, 10:55:14 PM »
Was watching Planet Green last night on TV. They were showing a show called "Extreme Cruise Ship" (I think??)

They were showing how they build the very large (I think it was the largest... ***something*** of the Seas) cruise ships. They were cutting huge plates of steel with what looked like a giant CNC plasma cutter. Very cool to watch. Still not as cool to see these giant lathes in action tho...

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Re: Large lathes, etc... ship building
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2011, 03:01:07 AM »
Completely fascinating stuff!  :clap: It doesn't look like safety was high on the agenda. I guess if a smoking blue planer chip the size of a coke can hits you, there's not much you could to to protect yourself anyways.

That tracer torch is way cool, and look at how square it's cutting! Awesome!

I served my apprenticeship at Smith's Dock on the Tees back in the mid 60's and we had quite a few of similar machines made by Messer if I remember correctly.  The difference with the ones we had was that they "read" a translucent drawing and scaled it up to the cutting heads.  Hanging from the wall was a Yale key that had been cut from 1/2" plate that must have been scaled up to about 2' and on it was painted "key for drydock door".  I think as much for fun as taking the micky out of the 'appies.

I can also remember some vertical boring machines with rotary table that were used to bore the propellers.  Huge things dating back to the late 1895 or around there and still working.

But yes it was a desperately dangerous place when you look back with a modern eye.

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Re: Large lathes, etc... ship building
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2012, 11:48:48 PM »
The crankshafts were built up but I couldn't see what grade of Loctite they used.  :loco:

Thanks for the link, I served my time in the relative comfort of a telephone exchange. I thought it was noisy but I can only imagine the racket in that factory.  I take my hat off to those of you who worked there. :nrocks:

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Re: Large lathes, etc... ship building
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2012, 04:29:16 AM »
long time ago now, I installed the electrics for a new shaper /planer machine, the commissioning engineer turn up after a few checks he called  for a large chunk a steel to be loaded up.

The test cut was 1 1/2 inch wide and 3/8 inch deep the machine did not even groan or bog down, cam off in a nice curl about a foot dia.


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