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I have an Issue.
« on: December 16, 2011, 10:36:57 AM »
Hello,

Yep I do, I would like to respectfully ask some of you to stop taking over the OP post. It seems to be happening more and more.

Some of the OP are quite new to machining, and when their post goes off at tangent, I’m sure they must feel utterly lost.

Have a thought for the OP, think where the question is coming from, read the question and if you can answer it, but PLEASE let us not answer our own questions.

If you have something to say – great, -  (I for one will read it) start a new post.

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2011, 02:06:27 AM »
what is OP?
if i'd thought it through, i'd have never tried it

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2011, 02:39:53 AM »
Opening Post / Opening Poster
very new to all this....

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2011, 03:51:40 AM »
I thought it was Original Poster!   I remember once when I had just joined a forum and came across the acronym OP and well, a funny story really but what happened was ....  :lol:

Only joking DaveH - you make a good point!

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2011, 03:52:16 AM »
Yer right Dave!  :thumbup:

We do tend to wander, sometimes.......

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2011, 03:57:21 AM »
I thought it was OLD PERSON you know Like DAVE :D :) :lol:

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2011, 10:00:20 AM »
I thought it was OLD PERSON you know Like DAVE :D :) :lol:
                               :ddb: :nrocks: :ddb: Peter  :ddb: :nrocks: :ddb:

I'm not really old I have just been pretending, so all you old  folk on here didn't feel out of place :lol: :lol: :lol:

All the David's; John's; Peter's; Bob's, just to mention a few :) :) :)

Now for my Posts I enjoy the off road excursion - heck, I even encourage it (as do some others) for me it is all part of the fun.

So lets have some fun. :D :D :D
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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2011, 10:51:32 AM »
I agree to a point, but isn't this part of human nature as well?

Just think about how a conversation goes when people get together and chat.  They wander from topic to topic, sometimes coming back full circle to what they started talking about.

I think different people have different ideas about what "related" is, and something that doesn't seem to be on topic at first might just spark some ideas to help the "OP" out with their "OT" (creative license: "original topic", as opposed to "off topic").

Some of the threads that start out with a question that could be answered with Google and 30 seconds of any computer illiterate person's time actually get more interesting as they go farther and farther off topic.

There are definitely limits to this logic, but this is one of the best forums I've ever found to find threads that DO stay on topic and do so in a very respectful manner.  I don't think I've even once seen the acronyms "GIYF" or "RTFM" here, although it may be tempting from time to time, sometimes even warranted.

That reminds me of a great recipe for pumpkin pie that I thought you'd all enjoy:

2 cups pumpkin
3 eggs


<insert sly smirk>

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2011, 02:51:30 PM »
I`ve never had pumpkin pie but I do love slow cooked steak pie - large stake skirt cut into small pieces, slow cooker with a bit of gravy mix and browning with a large finely chopped onion. 6 hours and then put it in the oven with a puff pastry topping.
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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2011, 04:22:47 PM »
I`ve never had pumpkin pie but I do love slow cooked steak pie - large stake skirt cut into small pieces, slow cooker with a bit of gravy mix and browning with a large finely chopped onion. 6 hours and then put it in the oven with a puff pastry topping.


There is no doubt about it FOOD does bring out the best of some of us  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2011, 06:17:38 AM »
I know about Reading The Fancy Manual but GIYF.............?
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2011, 06:21:05 AM »
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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2011, 12:09:29 PM »
Ahh.... I was thinking up all sorts of other phrases to fit them (got a few unprintable ones, lots of little asterisk's  :lol: )

Just assumed that if they came from some of those other IMHO horrible forums that they would be very caustic!?


Just to add to the other element of the thread..... Pumpkin pie? Why? Pies should have nice fillings.... Steak, chicken, custard......... 
 (I'm 98% carnivore BTW  :thumbup: )






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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2011, 03:11:58 PM »
Funny that, pies were mentioned and I considered savory fillings! Damn apple pie didn`t even get a look in... :Doh:

What was the OP again?  :drool:
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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2011, 03:24:20 PM »
What was the OP again? 

h Ollands Pies maybe  :drool:

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2011, 05:48:46 PM »
Funny that, pies were mentioned and I considered savory fillings! Damn apple pie didn`t even get a look in... :Doh:

What was the OP again?  :drool:

even more :offtopic:

What's this about pies? the only way I can conceive a connection between OP (= Theakston's "Old Peculier") and pies is maybe using OP in a steak & ale pie? - but I'd rather just drink it!  cheers  :beer:  :beer:  :beer:

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2011, 05:59:53 PM »
The only thing before this that I know of called OP is an old Swedish aqua vitae or schnaps called OP Anderssons´s.

A very tasty drink flavoured with cumin, aniseed, and fennel.  Yummy!  :drool:

Cheers  :beer:

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2011, 04:10:50 AM »
My head's beginning to hurt, now.........    :palm:   :scratch:   



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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2011, 07:31:54 AM »
My head's beginning to hurt, now.........   

yes, too much OP (Old Peculier) can do that !!!!!!  :beer:

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2011, 07:42:32 AM »
Yer right!

I'm old, and strange.......   :wave:

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2011, 08:08:28 AM »
My head's beginning to hurt, now.........   

yes, too much OP (Old Peculier) can do that !!!!!!  :beer:

Not if you're Off the Piste  :scratch:

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2011, 09:39:50 AM »
Ok guys this is the Tread Police, back on topic please.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2011, 03:02:52 PM »
Back to seriousness.

Topic wandering. Happens on message boards as it does in real life. Can we stop it? Do we want to stop it? More than once a question is asked, it gets answered but because of the way the thread goes, we learn something else. Sometimes it wanders so far off topic that we get lost.

So where do we draw the line? What I may see as staying on topic someone may see as off topic. Or vice versa.

Should the OP (original poster) step in on their own thread and steer it back? Is that the moderators responsibility?

What do people think? What is YOUR opinion??

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2011, 03:03:56 PM »
up to us
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« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2011, 03:06:41 PM »
Ha!

Now I wander... see our avatars jim? Anything in common?

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2011, 03:45:03 PM »
Hello Eric,

I do not think it should be left to the Mods, that puts an intolerable strain on the Mods.

It is normal forum etiquette  to stay on topic, and I think it is Rule No4 here “Stay on Topic”

My objection is when 2 or 3 members start and discus their own topic sometimes totally irrelevant to the OP, even gets a little heated sometimes.

I don’t care about my posts it does not bother me, nor does it bother a lot of members it can add to the fun.

All I am saying if the OP is new to machining be careful and try to answer the question without going off at a tangent.

I have noticed over the last 3 months or so it seems to have got worst, and I just thought I would comment on it.

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2011, 03:53:23 PM »
Dave,

I know we're all mucking about here. But many of us do try to aid the new members.

But just as Eric said, wandering is what happens in real life. It's so very hard to control!

Everyone who has read this thread will undoubtedly have the main message of it rattling round in thier heads when talking to "newbies"  and will hopefully remember to answer the questions that were asked :thumbup:




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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2011, 03:56:18 PM »
Ralph,

Your a star  :clap:
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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2011, 04:48:13 PM »
Should the OP (original poster) step in on their own thread and steer it back? Is that the moderators responsibility?

What do people think? What is YOUR opinion??

Eric

100% agree with everything said. There is nothing wrong with wondering as it normally is interesting or informative and on the odd occasion when it has happened to me and I really need an answer and think the off topic rants have lost focus of the thread, I say so and bring it back on topic.

I don`t mind a bit of wandering.... ummmm... pies!!

EDIT - just while I`m ranting...(because I have tried to tame my ranting over the lasy year!!) the thing that annoys me more than anything is inappropriate and poorly labeled subjects headers to threads!!! grrrrr!!!
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« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2011, 08:32:01 PM »
... the thing that annoys me more than anything is inappropriate and poorly labeled subjects headers to threads!!! grrrrr!!!

If you figure out a solution to that one, please forward it to 98% of the people who send me email during my day job!!!

Maybe we should have this thread renamed "Meandering Threads" ;)

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2011, 01:34:25 AM »
Since we are straying off topic (SOT) here and listing some of our pet peeves (PP) I thought I would pop in here with one of mine. It seems that some people are in so much of a hurry or are to lazy to type/write/speak that they have to reduce everything to code. That would be fine if everyone was programmed with the same code, but they are not. Here are a few acronym's that I found recently in post's. Some I think I know the meaning. Some I have guessed the meaning but could be wrong. Some can have different meanings depending on what the conversation or subject is that is being discussed.  JBYKWTAM don't expect everyone else too.

I would like 2 things here.
1.   Your comments
2.   Your interpretation of what these acronym's mean

Short forms found in posts  acronym's

3D
CR
SIC
CR's
MIA
MR
TDC
OTOH
LR's
TDC
LR
CAD
RPMs
AL
CA
PITB
NPT
CRS
CNC
SWMBO
aka
NMBS
UK
CRS
TMBR
OT
PTFE
PITA
ME
DRO
NZD
BTW
DOA
FWIW
RAN
ID
CRs
TDC
BDC
MO
WTB
fs
MT
DTI
EMD
OHP
SHCS
RH
cfbm
Ncfm
Acfm
GFS - Ground Flat Stock
OP - Original Poster, Other Person, Old Post, Opening Post, Opening Poster
GIYF
RTFM
JBYKWTAM - Just because you know what the acronym means

Cheers  :beer:

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2011, 03:54:51 AM »
Sorry Don, you can't use SOT.

Reserved.

Select On Test ...  :thumbup:

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #32 on: December 20, 2011, 04:34:15 AM »
Blue Chip

Good one SOT. I thought it was either 'Stray on topic' or 'Stray off topic'. More confusion. :doh: :doh:

Cheers  :beer: May need a few of these before we get this straightened out. :lol:

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #33 on: December 20, 2011, 05:51:30 AM »
1.   My brain hurts, again.......  :( :scratch:

2. 
3D    Three Dimensional.
CR    Cold Rolled
SIC    Not well   
CR's    Cold Rolled's
MIA    Baby Grandaughter
MR   Mister
TDC    Top Dead Centre
OTOH    On The Other Hand   
LR's    Left Right's
TDC    See above
LR         ..      ..
CAD    Computer Aided Design
RPMs    Revs Per Minute's
AL    Aluminium
CA    Charles Atlas
PITB    Pain In The Butt
NPT    National Pipe Thread
CRS    See above
CNC    Computer Numerically Controlled
SWMBO   She Who Must Be Obeyed
aka   Also Known As
NMBS    Not My Blummin Spanner
UK    United Kingdom
CRS    See above
TMBR    Brown Stuff
OT    Off Track
PTFE    Plastic
PITA   Bread
ME   Model Engineer
DRO    Digital Read Out
NZD    New Zealand
BTW    By The Way
DOA    Put wood in't hole
FWIW    For What It's Worth
RAN   Exercised
ID    Internal Diameter
Crs    See above
TDC    See above
BDC    Bottom Dead Centre
MO    Modus Operandi
WTB   Water Board
fs    Beer tokens
MT    Morse Taper
DTI    Dial Test Indicator
EMD    Early Morning Departure
OHP  Over Horse Power
SHCS    Second Hand Cold Steel
RH    Right Hand
cfbm   What?
Ncfm      ..         
Acfm      ..   
GFS - Ground Flat Stock
OP - Original Poster, Other Person, Old Post, Opening Post, Opening Poster
GIYF    Give It Your Friend
RTFM    Rough Turn For Me
JBYKWTAM - Just because you know what the acronym means

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2011, 07:20:15 AM »
Ncfm      ..         
Acfm      ..   

NCFM         No Cubic Feet per Minute ... Compressor off.
ACFM         Alotof Cubic Feet per Minute ... Compressor running.

OK ?  :thumbup:

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« Reply #35 on: December 20, 2011, 08:01:25 AM »
Ncfm      ..         
Acfm      ..   

NCFM         No Cubic Feet per Minute ... Compressor off.
ACFM         Alotof Cubic Feet per Minute ... Compressor running.

OK ?  :thumbup:

BC

Perfect Dave!  :thumbup:

Love it.....    :clap: :clap:

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« Reply #36 on: December 20, 2011, 10:38:46 AM »
A lot of good info also gets lost in OT posts as it gets buried.

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #37 on: December 20, 2011, 11:11:31 AM »
When you're confused, use the acronym dictionary...

http://www.acronymfinder.com/

In high school English classes we were taught to define any uncommon acronym the first time it was used.  Part of the problem arises from newcomers to the web.  Acronyms like SWMBO, OTOH, BTW are so familiar to web regulars that no one would think of defining them but, for a newcomer, they can be puzzling.
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« Reply #38 on: December 20, 2011, 01:18:48 PM »
You learn something every day. I'm an old hand when it comes to posting in forums. Been posting to them since the days of Prodigy (how far back does that go?). But until now, I've never even heard of OTOH.

Where I work, acronyms (initialisms, technically) are used as often as the word "the". I think it is a roadblock to effective communication which is important for new-hires. It took three years before I could follow a conversation around here. Thing is, they get used so much, many people here don't even know what the expansion is when you ask them.
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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #39 on: December 20, 2011, 05:14:33 PM »
Adding to the list a few of mine:

IMHO            In My Humble Opinion
NIMBY           Not In My Back Yard 
NPT              National Pipe Taper
DOA             Dead On Arrival
RTFM            Read The F****g Manual   
ROTFLMAO   Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Ass Off (old one from gaming)
RAN              Regional Area Network (telecom)

I definately recognize Troutsqueezers description. Nearly 20 yers ago i joined a telecoms company to work as a tech writer but it took the best part of the first six months to de-cipher what was talked and written about since more than 10% of the text included three-letter abbreviations. After six months the "inauguration" was over and I could read and understand .

I guess that this is common to any line of work, but it is very typical of telecoms.

BR

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #40 on: December 20, 2011, 08:40:05 PM »
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DOA    Put wood in't hole
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So many won't get that!!   :lol:


Have to agree with Troutsqueezer here.... Not that it's particularly important here but. Initialisms are when you use the initial letters to shorten the phrase/description and acronyms are when that initialism creates a pronounceable word like NASA, Scuba etc..... FWIR
 But then from what little I do remember from English lessons it gets all complicated and stuff like. When they start mixing abbreviations and acronyms and initialisms all together!! :bugeye:   (Yes I know....  It's youf speak init!  Something else that gets you lost easily! :palm: )


The link Marv gave is a really good one. Got lost long ago and that one helped me out  :thumbup:



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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #41 on: December 21, 2011, 03:47:03 AM »
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DOA    Put wood in't hole
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So many won't get that!!   :lol:

Ralph.

The Dee Dars, and locals will!  :D

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #42 on: December 21, 2011, 04:14:45 AM »
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DOA    Put wood in't hole

So many won't get that!! 
Ralph.

The Dee Dars, and locals will! 

...or as it is said up here:

DOA   = put wood in thole.
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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #43 on: December 22, 2011, 04:30:34 PM »
Hi,

So is it alright to have my post back now?  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

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Re: I have an Issue.
« Reply #44 on: December 22, 2011, 05:01:27 PM »
Why are you straying off topic?
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