A little project leaving you all a glow....

[Divided he ad]

Hi guys 


Just thought I'd let you all see this and see if anyone else likes the idea?

This is not my idea but one I "borrowed" I was not going to pay the best part of 20 British pounds when I had all the stuff to make one or two in my workshop and the nouse to get it done 


So.... Who likes the idea of a glow in the dark key fob?

I did...

Basic make up, so a few pic's and just a little description of what and why...


Drilled and tapped the main body.



Made an arbour which will later become the makings for the base.


Screw on the main body, shape it as desired and then polish it a little.








Still in the arbour, it was transferred to the rotary table. The end was drilled for the split ring and then sides were cut away (furthest from the chuck first... lots of flex otherwise) leaving behind a cage like main body.

it's easily calculated to leave behind 2mm of material... I love my DRO's!








Separated from the arbour.



Work out how much acrylic rod I need. (Lazy style.... No calculations or even measuring done!)




Test fit.... Needs a little but filing off.


I used hot glue to seal one end of the tube. Then filled it with a glow in the dark (GID) powder that I've had for probably nearing 10 years! Purchased from the states for an old set of projects.



Rammed (lightly) down with the shaft of a 2.5mm drill bit and then sealed with hot glue again.




The arbour end was parted off and cleaned up. By being screwed into another arbour which will be the next main body!!! Up here for thinking...




Screwed together (loctited) and stood with my prototype.


Add the split rings.








And finally.... What does it do.....?






Well, that's it, all in all took me a little over 1.5hrs for the prototype. and a little over 1hr for the fancy one 


The GID powder is    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strontium_aluminate   Lasts for well over 7hrs (last nights sleep) 

I have been to the website that I used years ago and they no longer sell this powder.... But someone must do? (I will pass on that web address to anyone wanting it. Maybe they will sell it if asked? USA based site)
I purchased 2 small sample packs (green, blue and a green/blue mix) and I probably have enough for a few thousand of these!!!



Anyway,

That's it.


Any info required I'll try my best 




Ralph.




Mmmm, just editing this and thought of a new design for my next attempt   

[Chuck in E. TN]

Great project Ralph! Love it!

Chuck in E. TN

[spuddevans]

 

I love it, and if I can find some glow-in-the-dark powders I will make a few too.

 

[Pete.]

Nice little lantern. If there is no GId powder to be had you could always mount a solid rod of perspex in it and put a LED and a hearing aid battery in the base.

[DMIOM]

yeah Pete, but the whole brilliant idea of Ralph's GID keyring is that you can find it in the dark.  If you had an LED and battery - you'd have to find it, to press the switch to turn the battery supply on, to light the LED, to provide a light to help you find the keyring .....

[John Stevenson]

Marry a Russian bird and get here to hold your keys, they glow in the dark.

Plus side is they come complete with fork truck licence, heavy goods license and can weld titanium at -32 degrees.

John s.

[Divided he ad]

Thanks Chuck

Got to be able Tim... I found a cheat....  http://www.survivaldepot.co.uk/product474753_4085411.aspx  Well it's a possibility?
There is also a radioactive one available!

Expensive route but good for the odd one or two? UK based too 




Pete... The idea is already in the pipeline.... A re-model on my little brass torches (just realised my Avatar was adrift!? Sorted) like the ones in my avatar! All in the grey matter!

Dave... that makes my head hurt!    


John.... You're nuts! 




Cheers,


Ralph.

[DaveH]

Ralph,

I think they are great.     
 
DaveH

[Pete.]

D'oh - I didn't realise the powder inside is charged by daylight.

Anyway, to redeem myself have a link to some powder:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Glow-Dark-Powder-4-colours-total-40gs-/250836771133?pt=UK_Crafts_DrawingSupplies_EH&hash=item3a6709613d

[rleete]

I can think of lots of evil tricks with that powder.

[jiihoo]

That would make a wonderfull Christmas gift... Nice work!

How many grams of powder is needed per keyring fob? I am thinking that the vials could actually make sense if making just a few, depending on how much powder would be needed per fob. (The shipping charge for the powder is quite a killer if ordering from outside the UK...)

Cheers,


Jari

[Divided he ad]

Good link there Pete. See, I knew others would find the powdered version 

Roger... I've thought of a few... Please feel free to let me know your evil plans and I'll store them up for future distribution 


Jari,  There's so very little to fill the tubes. My tubes are 5.2mm OD and just 3mmID and at only 30mm long that's a very small amount of powder per tube.
I've not measured the weight mainly cause it wasn't a concern at the time.
But to have a guess from my knowledge of my darts weights.... I'd say the whole keyfob is less than 18grams... and it's brass! the centre section probably wouldn't show up on most scales!

As said. If you're going to make 1-2 then the vials could be easier.... But probably not cheaper! I'm thinking that it's £3.85 each and then postage onto that... £7-8  for one glowstick! (plus the brass and work time etc...)

There are lots of uses for the powder, Mix it into resins, glues or varnishes and it glows really well. I've got little resin domes with it in next to my lightswitch, they have been glowing there for somewhere close to 8 years!

With 40g you will be able to make 30+ of these if you have similar diameter acrylic rod.



Hope that helps?





Ralph.

[krv3000]

oooo nice

[rleete]

Ralph,

It just occured to me that your quote: "likes shiny things" should be ammended to include "& pretty lights"!

[jiihoo]

Thank you, Ralph! The powder it will be then...

Here is one more supplier: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-x-Glow-dark-pigment-powder-colours-Set-1-/280610981892?pt=UK_Crafts_Other_Crafts_EH&hash=item4155b7c804

I knew there was a reason I bought  that brass hex bar just last week :-)


JariH

[Powder Keg]

Looks good Ralph\o/ I might have to try one of those(o;

~Wes~

[Divided he ad]

Roger,
 You have no idea how many torches and other glowing, blinking, flashing and all other manner of light emitting trinketary I've owned over the years....  I know that cause I don't either!
I can tell you that as I sit here typing I can lay my hands on 6 different torches without leaving my seat! 

It's an addiction!     



Jari,
Happy to have helped a little.... This might prove to be quite a fun thread once a few more designs get posted up.... I'm assuming that a few of you will add some photo's to it? ... You better had!   


Hi Wes,
Glad you like the idea too. Pic's expected from you as well (if you do try one) 





Ralph.

[dickda1]

Oooow!

This holder would be just great for a tritium glow tube.  It glows continuously via safe alpha radioactive decay.  I have one on my key chain, but your holder would be wonderful.

I can't buy the tritium tubes here in the States because our Atomic Energy Commission have ruled that it is frivolous use of atomic energy (no sense of humor at all).

But, one can buy them on ebay from China and I believe you can buy them in stores in the UK.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/B2G-1-1-inch-Tritium-Keychain-10-Year-Green-New-/230703190688?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b6fb52a0#ht_1888wt_930

-Dick

[Divided he ad]

Hi Dick,


Yes. The radioactive ones are available here.... Without the plastic keyring too 

The link is in the first few replies under the main post. A UK based company but will ship abroad.  Would work out very expensive though!


But no reason why you can't transfer the one you have into a brass holder. If you encase it in acrylic tubing then it would provide protection too... Not too sure how fragile they are?

China might be cheaper too.... Just hope they don't use depleted uranium or something instead     




Pictures of anything you do make eh? 







Ralph.

[dickda1]

Tritium is a radioactive isotope of hydrogen.  During WWII, a vial of this material was mounted next to luminous dials in the cockpit.  Made them glow like crazy.  Unfortunately, the glow is rather dim.  Your powder would initially beat it by miles.

That's by the by.  Very nice turning on this project.  I am jealous.

[Divided he ad]

Mmmm.... The odd little things you learn on here 

Glad you like the results.... You could emulate them I'm sure.... Or should that be replicate?    (one for the trekies  )






Ralph.

[Brass_Machine]

I just noticed I never replied to this!

Very cool Ralph. I see another for the list (which I haven't started)

Eric

[Powder Keg]

Hey Ralph! Take a look at these websites. They will give you somethings to think about

Trinkets

Glow stuff

Have fun:o)

~Wes~

[Divided he ad]

Eric,

That list.... Do you think you could let me have a look? There's bound to be something on it that isn't on mine, and that I might like to have a go at..... Or at least add it to mine     


Very cool Wes.... Have you seen some of those prices!!? 


Think this CNC game could have some advantages!?


 Maybe I need to start working on a retirement package?    



Some fine ideas in there .... Still, neither have landed upon my next brain stormer..... Watch this space (but no avidly.... Got Xmas to get through first!)




Ralph.

[Divided he ad]

Ok, so I decided I was 2 gifts shy this morning and I've got to go to my sisters in about 15 mins (Xmas starts here!!)

Just a few things for you to see before I go.... I had these in mind so didn't take too long 


A large and small one





Looks odd don't it!?


The three gift versions...




And a quick video....





Right.... Off to Christmas dinner number one!! 







Ralph.

[Divided he ad]

Hi guys, hope all has gone to plan over the last few days?

Just cause I have done them I've decided to post a couple of pic's from today...









The designs are getting smaller. The little one is only 30mm tall and 7.5mm diameter 



Well, that's it for now.

Probably going to make a few more before the break is over? But then also I might finally finish my rocking engine too.... Might?





Ralph.

[Brass_Machine]

Those are pretty cool Ralph! All neat ideas without a doubt! 

Eric

[Divided he ad]

Cheers chief 


Got them stuck in my head.... Decided to make them reality 



Got two hugs off my mates wife 1am Xmas morning....    I think she really liked the 3 colour one from the Xmas eve post 

Luckily her husband,(owner of the first triangular design) who's of a similar size to me was more self controlled and just thanked me   






Ralph.

[Powder Keg]

I played around with a piece of acrylic today. I need to make a tool and I'll show you what I'm working on. I've had something in mind. I just need to figure out how to machine it. I did make a knob for our crock pot out of the stuff. I was trying to flame polish it and got carried away It nearly went up in flames. But the affect looks neat so I decided to use it. I'll start a new thread tomorrow(o; Keep up the good work Ralph.

~Wes~

[Divided he ad]

Thanks Wes, I'll try!

Well you have us hooked now.... Going to have to keep my eyes open for this new thread now!


Up in flames.... Sounds like it could be interesting    




Ralph.

[NickG]

Great little project Ralph! Might have to try those!

 

[Divided he ad]

Cheers Nick 

They seem to flow a little easier now that I've done a few.


If you do make any please post the pic's 




Ralph.

[Powder Keg]

Hey Ralph,

How do you shape the end where the ring goes through? Have you tried making form tools? They work great for aluminum and brass. I think it would save you some time. I'm going to make one for a couple of my doubles. I'll take some pictures if you like.

~Wes~

[Divided he ad]

Wes,

To be perfectly honest I just make them all different. I turn the size down from the main dia till it looks about right.
Then use a file to shape the very end and a small round file or a rat tail file depending on the body size to blend the body to the end.

A lick with the old 400 grit emery to blend it all in and then brass polish on a rag to finish it. Since they are keyrings and are going to get abused in general life I figure it's not needed to go for the serious polished finish.



All that said, Form tooling would be a good topic to have in the tooling section 

I'm sure there are plenty of people who will add to such a topic and plenty more that will happily learn from it.
You've made some cracking shapes up in the past..... Showing us exactly how it's done would be very good 





Ralph.

[rleete]

I figure it's not needed to go for the serious polished finish.

Who are you, and what have you done with the real Ralph?

[Divided he ad]

Who are you, and what have you done with the real Ralph?

He's off for the Xmas week 

Are they not shiny enough for you Roger?   



I know..... But I just thought "cuts the job time down by 20mins and getting all the polishing goo out would be a bloody nightmare!"



Ok.... So I'm lazy! Tell me something they don't keep telling me!    





Ralph

[HS93]

where did you get the tube to put the powder in ?I have found tubes but they eather want a min order or silly postage.?

Peter

[Divided he ad]

Hi Peter,

E-blag! Simple answer.  "Acrylic tube" Sold in 500mm x5 lengths Bout 6 quid.  Little warning though.... One tube over half screwed, all disfigured and another all twisted.

Non there anywho, just looked.


found this though....

http://clearplastictube.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=35_68&product_id=270

Right size and not too expensive. Cost 48p +vat and 3 notes postage... Postage prob won't change too much if you order a few tubes.... Depends how much you want and what you call extortionate postage?


 




Got to show you... Just cause I like em 



That's a quid coin for reference.








Ralph.

[arnoldb]

  Very nice Ralph 

  How do you keep the colours seperate ? - or do you tamp down the powder tight enough that it won't mix later on ?

 , Arnold

[Divided he ad]

Thanks Arnold,

I've been using the tamping method.... But have found 2 of the early ones to be finding some "free space" I've got some 3mm acrylic rod coming to make little separators. Got to try these things 



Ralph.
 

[arnoldb]

Thanks Ralph  - Added to my to-do list for when I need to make some gifts between tool and engine making...  Some of your little flashlights as well 

 , Arnold

[HS93]

Hi Peter,

E-blag! Simple answer.  "Acrylic tube" Sold in 500mm x5 lengths Bout 6 quid.  Little warning though.... One tube over half screwed, all disfigured and another all twisted.

Non there anywho, just looked.


found this though....

http://clearplastictube.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=35_68&product_id=270

Right size and not too expensive. Cost 48p +vat and 3 notes postage... Postage prob won't change too much if you order a few tubes.... Depends how much you want and what you call extortionate postage?


 




Got to show you... Just cause I like em 



That's a quid coin for reference.








Ralph.

thanks for that I have orderd some now, it's find the powder time now.

Peter

[Divided he ad]

Peter, Glad to have helped 

Pete found this link and posted it on the first page

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Glow-Dark-Powder-4-colours-total-40gs-/250836771133?pt=UK_Crafts_DrawingSupplies_EH&hash=item3a6709613d

Seems reasonable. Still don't know how much (weight wise) goes into one of these.... But it really is a tiny amount... I've a feeling that should be loads, and a whole extra colour to mine!



Looking forward to someone else posting a piccy of their version 



Ralph.

[pete3000]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NITE-GLO-TACKLE-Glows-Dark-EVERY-NIGHT-/260326366873?pt=UK_SportingGoods_FishingAcces_RL&hash=item3c9ca91e99

snigger

[Divided he ad]

Glowing tackle!!   

There was a film out years ago with that as the theme "skin deep" tag line... "the comedy that glows in the dark"

I used to watch such asterisk! 


Nice find Pete 



Now, since I'm on here... Just finished editing and uploading some videos of these being made.

After near 18hrs editing and then 15hrs to upload you'd best all be nice! 


See what you think?
Vid 1

&feature=relmfu

Vid2

&list=UL

Vid3

&list=UL

You can knock them up from 480p to HD - 720p or 1080p if your interweb supply can handle it!






Ralph.

[Brass_Machine]

Awesome videos Ralph. 

Thanks
Eric

[-steves-]

I had a go at a couple of these over the weekend.....currently now the proud owner of two very bent and twisted bits of brass as the 1st one I got the machining order wrong and the second one I accidentally went it too heavy with the mill......might post up some pics of the scrap metal at some point, maybe once I have successfully completed one, just to prove to myself that I can do it, so close twice, lol.... 

[Divided he ad]

Thanks Eric  Glad you liked 'em 


Steves, Sounds like a few valuable lessons learned! We've all done it.... Usually with a few heart stopping moments involved too!

Looking forward to seeing the 3rd go 





Ralph.

[-steves-]

Hey Ralph, the heart stopping moment wasn't funny, the mill locked up and even after turning the dial back to zero I could hear the head still trying to turn, nearly pooped myself....lol 

As you say, lessons being learnt and thats what its all about for me at the moment. Not done much on the mill to date, so thought this would be a good learning curve, its even better than I thought, lol 

[Stilldrillin]

Steve.
The Emergency Stop button, is a handy tool to use under those circumstances........ 

Very pleased the operator wasn't damaged, during the exercise! 

David D

[-steves-]

Steve.
The Emergency Stop button, is a handy tool to use under those circumstances........ 

Very pleased the operator wasn't damaged, during the exercise! 

David D

Indeed, the emergancy stop button is there, but never having used it before, it wasn't until some minutes ( well about an hour to be honest) later that I thought, maybe I should have used the emergancy stop button   

Fortunately I was wearing my safety glasses as the bits flew from the mill and splattered across the glasses making a nice tinging splattery sound  All is good though, still safe and sound  I will post up the pictures later of the broken ones ...

[Divided he ad]

Sounds interesting Steve! 

Not a good feeling is it!? That's definitely a way to learn a very valuable lesson. I remember shattering endmills due to lack of knowledge..... Friendly forums helped a lot 

Note about the bits hitting your face.... I've started wearing one of these http://www.wholesaletoolwarehouse.com/safety-and-workwear/eye-protection/140863-face-shield-visor

I wear my normal glasses while working (else I'd get nothing mad worth talking about) so this is a great solution instead of bulky (and often painful over a few hours) glasses over glasses.


Go on then    (note to our leaders.... I think we need a "Come on show us your pic's" version of this too?       When you're ready )





Ralph.

[Brass_Machine]

Glad to hear you survived Steve!

Now that I have finally been prescribed glasses (just got them today), I am going to get a face shield like the one has shown.

Ordering my glow powder in the next few days. Thanks for the ideas Ralph.

Eric

[-steves-]

OK, managed to get a couple of pictures sorted out. See if you can spot the deliberate mistakes made while making these items 

The first and second pictures are of the one that I did in the wrong order and it didnt have enough strength to finish it, yes, I should have known better but I have to learn these things for myself...

The third, forth and fifth pictures are where I was lacking in light and took a (bad) best guess as to the height I needed the mill, this one caused the work to bend / crack and the mill to lock up. The forth one is its better side, lol....

It should be noted my camera always makes the work look somewhat grooved, in real life these pieces do not look that bad at all and would have polished up very nicely if only the operator could finish one properly, lol...

[-steves-]

Note about the bits hitting your face.... I've started wearing one of these http://www.wholesaletoolwarehouse.com/safety-and-workwear/eye-protection/140863-face-shield-visor

Ralph.

Damn, I just ordered one of these and paid the nice £6+ delivery which I didn't mind, right up until I just realised this company is about a 30 minute walk and I could have got there in my dinner hour and just paid cash  Ah well, what is done is done and its on its way now I guess, lol 

[Divided he ad]

Steve....     

Holy asterisks!!!

You weren't kidding about the crash! 


I don't know if you have watched my videos? But they show the order I do these in. and the way I support the shaft while milling.
Although the version I make like this is sped up 16x it shows what you now know about orders.

Each cut I put on is only ~0.20-0.30mm due to the length of work sticking out it needs to be delicate. (I know... After the horse has bolted!)



Still, looks like you're going to get a good un after all this practice 

Bout the face mask..... At least you'll know where to go for the next one    I'll need to replace mine soon (or the visor bit) they soon scratch up and look a little misty. When I look at all the oil, swarf and stuff I wipe off it that would have been in my face, it's money well spent!


Good luck with your next go.... Take it easy 






Ralph.

[-steves-]

OK, well had another "crack" at it tonight, and although not perfect, I do know where I can improve but for tonight I kinda cheated and used the original screw cap I made, hence it does not fit exactly, I could part off the one I used to hold it, but thought I would continue to use that for holding work in the future

Anyway, here is my attempt, its been great fun and I am glad I decided to give it a "bash" 

Thanks for sharing this project as without it I would not have learnt what I have learnt 

[Brass_Machine]

 

[Stilldrillin]

VERY nicely done, Steve! 

David D

[Divided he ad]

Sweet!   

Well done that man    

Looks well and glows well...  My prototype has the tap "teeth" in it. I figured out how far to send the tap and everything else as I went through the next few. I was actually thinking of sending the tap all the way to the top on one of the next ones... Leaving the "teeth" effect there as part of the styling? Might work?   Got to buy more brass rod first... Gone through 2ft of it in the last few weeks   

About parting off the arbour to make the cap. Not telling you what to do but more why I would....  I know that when you're first starting out doing these things you might find making the threaded arbour a chore and as you said, you can use it for more.
Most basic reasons why I'd say make one for everyone individually
1/ obvious, you know this from your write up. They match up.
2/ you will only get better and more able at making such parts with repetition. (don't know if it was an issue?) I know I used to hate making threads and then re-making them Parting off used to be a nightmare too!  But now I just do it cause it's such a quick part of the job.

As said, just trying to point this stuff out.  You may be fully aware and just wanted to get it done? 


I've been playing tonight.... Got some experiments done. Shall we say they look promising.....

I'll get some faffing done and then post a few pic's in a bit 





Very pleased that you've gotten one made and posted it... I know of one other completed version so far. Maybe he'll post a few pic's on here soon? But I know he's also experimenting with his designs.

Init awesome having the machines to make fun stuff?!?!     




Ralph.

[raynerd]

Got all my stuff to make one last week but I`ve been trying to get this inverter working, I`ve not had chance!
OK...I need to get my arse in gear! Nice Job Steve!

Chris

[Brass_Machine]

Trying to find some small clear tube here in the states... is that tube you are using solid?

[raynerd]

Eric, this might sound mad, but I`ve found my tube. The clean clear end of a bic biro or if you want something thicker, a gel pen!! Mine is waiting to be cut!

Chris

[raynerd]

Thanks for the idea Ralph, it was a great little hours project that I whipped together after many weeks of doing work to my machines and general maintainance gearing up for my next big project. It didn`t turn out perfect and it could be made a lot better but I thought I`d try and come up with something a little different.

By the way, the tube for the powder did come from the clean end of a  pen! Infact, I took it from a cheap gel pen and there was at least 30mm + free clean ends on some of them!!







Chris

[Divided he ad]

New take on the idea there Chris 

Very ingenious use of the pen and parts    Nice use of a thread cut too!

Don't you just love the way they glow? 




I've just walked in from the workshop now... 02:15 on a school night! Been teaching/guiding a friend on my machines cause he wanted to make one of the keyrings... Aluminium bronze is an interesting material to work with!

I also forgot how long it takes a nervous newbie to do everything   

Turned out quite attractive in the end though... I have not got any pic's of the build at all! But he has so I'll get hold of them and post a couple next week.




Right, time for some ZZZs




Ralph.

[Divided he ad]

A little    (been wanting to use that for a while!)


I've been experimenting with resins, namely epoxy glue like Araldite.

The first attempts were driven by necessity as I needed to fill something with glowing matter (more on that if it works?)

Still, point being that the first test was done using what I had on the shelf. Araldite. This was a standard form of the stuff but was translucent and a kind of yellowish colour (probably green or orange... But who knows?) This worked but was dull.

So I then purchased some clear epoxy for a mere 1.75 British pounds. Setting in 1min and curing in 5-30  Needed to be quick.
I've since found a curing in setting in 5min's and curing in 15... probably easier to work with?


Anywho, point being a 5ml syringe filled 3/4 full with equal line measures (well, pretty equal) of epoxy, hardener and glow powder. Will fill an approx 500mm length of acrylic tube with a 3mm bore and glows like buggery!

much easier to cut and fit into the finished keyring and if you make different coloured rods up you can simply cut small lengths off by rolling a razor blade on them then snapping them off. Then insert  as required.

For a multi coloured one like the one in Steve's post you just cut two short lengths that have the join meeting in the centre behind the cage so it's not really visible 

Saves a huge amount of time filling fiddly little tubes and probably uses only 30%ish of the glow powder/tube due to the volume of the glue. 


Finally a few pic's of the experiments...
The mix, prepared thus and mixed furiously using a scraper...


Using the scraper the syringe was filled and the piston re-inserted (pointing it nozzle up to expel the air.... you know? Like doctors do!)
(Note special syringe nozzle created for the filling of blind holes. Long thin and with a cross filed V over the nose... worked a treat  )


Syringe empty and the acrylic rod and a bit filled.


Turn the lights off.... And yes, that was wielded as a 500mm mini lightsabre 


The original araldite tests next to the clear epoxy version.


And the lights off... The two longer ones were both blue glow. The smaller one was an attempt with the aqua version (this is always slightly brighter than blue) Here they look very similar brightness (all hit with a dose of 405nm (blue) "frickin laser beam" - Movie ref anyone?)







Hope that helps some of you? 

You just need a few disposable 5ml syringes and some "clear" epoxy glue. (I had to turn the nozzle down to fit the acrylic tube)






Ralph.

[Brass_Machine]

Hehe... I was thinking along the same lines. I ordered some glow powder today. I have a couple of ideas I want to do    ... Will start a post when my stuff gets here

Eric

[Divided he ad]

Eric,   now that you've said it you have to do it.... That's the law   


Looking forward to seeing any and all things that people can make that glow and shine   



Just to drive my current feelings home....     





Ralph. 

[NickG]

Very cool Ralph, surprised how much they glow! 

Oh, and Austin Powers ... not sure which one!

[Divided he ad]

Cheers Nick    They glow very well for a 10-20 min's then quite a consistent glow (easy to find in the dark)  for the next 8-10 hours.

Yup, Well remembered    From the first one. Ill tempered sea bass wearing lasers on their heads   
Such good films 





Ralph.

[Bandit_46]

That's a Fine job! I only Hope to make it there someday!   

[andyf]

Don't want to be too much of a wet blanket, but if you keep your keys in your pocket, the light won't get to them to charge up the glow powder. And if you leave them lying around to charge up in daylight, you are more likely (at my age) to forget where you put them, and might have to wait until it goes dark before you can find them again...

Andy

[DaveH]

        

And if you leave them lying around to charge up in daylight, you are more likely (at my age) to forget where you put them, and might have to wait until it goes dark before you can find them again...
Andy

        

 
DaveH

[Divided he ad]

Troy,

You will be upto this level in no time at all    I've only been back on the machines for 5 years.
The last time before that was 15 years before in college.... 4hrs a week for a year! I made a centre finder, a toolmakers clamp, a tap wrench and a die holder.... So long ago!     I'm getting old!

You're on a new learning curve....  But you're in a good place to get some knowledge. loads of talented guys on here   
You'll be fine... You're one of us now   



Andy... I keep my keys on a hook when they're not in general use. They get light from the window so it's all good.

They do glow in pitch black for 12hrs! just turn the lights off and shut the curtains/blinds!

Dave... Stop egging him on      





Ralph.