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Offline snub

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Need Advice on Pulse Width Modulator
« on: March 21, 2012, 11:42:36 PM »
I bought a couple of different PWM's and am looking for advice on which one to use. Both were $11.00 (  shipping included! ). The first one is rated at 6 amps and the reason I like it is that it comes enclosed in a case with tabs for easy mounting. I opened the case so I could inspect the guts. Not much in there, and no heat sinks.





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The other one is rated at 10 amps and has 2 large heat sinks and a lot more 'components'...:







The motor I'm using only draws about 2 amps so either one would work.
I don't know a lot about electronics, but my gut instinct would be that the second one would be a better choice, just based on the fact it has 2 heat sinks and more 'stuff'. But, I could be wrong.

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Re: Need Advice on Pulse Width Modulator
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2012, 01:14:05 AM »
Try the first one first. If it lets out the electronic smoke, use the second one. Cost $11 to try it.

They are pretty efficient so they usually don't need much in the way of heatsinking. And 2A is not much.

FWIW

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Re: Need Advice on Pulse Width Modulator
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2012, 06:51:52 AM »
I like the way how they have tried to disguise those 555 timer chips? would only cost about 50p to repair if they blew
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Re: Need Advice on Pulse Width Modulator
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2012, 08:51:58 AM »

Hi Snub

unless you need to fit it into a small space , I'd go for the 10A one

the motor may only take 2A when its working
but what does it take at switch on or if you stall the motor ?

    John

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Re: Need Advice on Pulse Width Modulator
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2012, 09:04:47 AM »
Hi Snub

It may be worth checking that the pwm's have a diode accross the motor for back emf protection. The motors are a purely inductive load at turn on and as the pulse is removed will ring up to a high voltage if no clamp diode is present, possibly causing output driver failure.

Hope this helps

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Re: Need Advice on Pulse Width Modulator
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2012, 09:17:31 PM »
Thanks for the advice, gentlemen. Not sure if there is a diode in the circuit. There is a component marked 'D4', which I suppose could be one. Here are some better pics:






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Re: Need Advice on Pulse Width Modulator
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2012, 04:55:52 AM »
Snub

Yes, that's a diode. Looks like it may be either a 1N5408 or a UF5408 ..

At least on my pic it looks like an '8' for the last digit.

1000V Vrrm 3A. Good enough .. if it is one.

If you look at the traces under the circuit board, it should be effectively wired across the output terminals, cathode [ end with the bar ] to the positive motor terminal.

In fact, as it has 2 signal diodes and a few other bits, you may well find the contraption is based on the generic 555 Timer Chip PWM schematic.

Similar to this one  ... maybe not exactly,  but ...

http://www.discovercircuits.com/DJ-Circuits/simplepwm2.htm

It is a common practice to parallel off two [ or more ] MOSFETs to get more grunt .. which may be what you have..







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Re: Need Advice on Pulse Width Modulator
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2012, 05:27:42 AM »

Hi Snub ,

just to add to Bluechips reply

if the board is designed to work on more than 18V

I expect you will have a voltage regulator to supply the NE555 timer , on one heat sink
and a FET to control your motor on the other

       John

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Re: Need Advice on Pulse Width Modulator
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2012, 05:36:55 AM »
Very good point that, John...

Never occurred  to me  :scratch:

Which probably explains my habit of re-inventing the Direct Arc Furnace ...  :bang:  :bang:

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Re: Need Advice on Pulse Width Modulator
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2012, 01:39:21 PM »
Thanks, again. The vendor states that this unit will work on 12-24-36 volts. I'll take a look and see how the diode is wired in.