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[Brass_Machine]

I am comfortable with a forum with a very narrow scope, and 100 members, but if the HMEM crowd are being put out, then I will do what I can to accomodate them.

I would have to get the HMEM mods to run the HMEM-type section, and of course, they would have admin privledges.

The success of it would depend on them, not me, I would just given them the space, since I am set up already.

Pat J

Edit:  I don't think this post would last too long if placed on HMEM.

Pat...

Understandable and kind of heart to give them a place to go. In the thread already of at HMEM someone is kicking the tires of starting a new forum as well. I have a feeling quite a few will pop up to try to fill any void that happens.

Of course, they are welcome here as well (many are already members). I have the resources and staff already. I have sections already setup. While we are not an 'engine" specific board, we are a project based board... it all connects.

I wouldn't worry too much about where (and if) many will go.

Eric

[raynerd]

I`d be slightly pee`d off or concerned if I was one of those members that have posted great writeups with fantastic pictures. A few that are also members on here spring to mind! Does this mean they can pull off the text and pictures and sell them. Expecially those who have released their own plans and posted them on there! - does this mean they now have the right to pull off the plans and sell them?

[John Stevenson]

The answer to that Glen, is this:

6.2.   By posting content on the Websites, you also grant, and warrant that you have the authority to grant, the Company a perpetual, royalty-free, non-exclusive worldwide right and license to display, reproduce, adapt, modify, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform, play, make available to the public, use, and exercise all copyright and publicity rights with respect to any and all content that you post on the Websites. If you do not wish to grant Group Builder these rights, do not submit content to the Website.

Eric

In which case all send in links to warez software and pirate bay.

They now take control of all these illegal posts   

Thanks for the heads up. I did manage to get signed in and password changed but sorry these rules are not for me.

Link is now deleted and I won't be going back there.

John S.

[sbwhart]

Not happy with this change i'm out of their,

I didn't post my build logs for some one to take comercial advantages.


Stew

[dsquire]

Stew and John

We will be happy to have your posts on MadModder. I am sure that the people that used to read them on HMEM will still find them here.

Cheers 

Don

[John Stevenson]

Thanks Don, it would be nice if it all moved under one roof instead of 2-3-4 or so splinter forums getting started and just dilute the mix.

What was actually sold anyway ? the site, the members list, previous posts and build logs ?

Anyone want to buy www.homeworkshop.org.uk ?

John S.

[Rob.Wilson]

Anyone want to buy www.homeworkshop.org.uk ?

John S.

I will give you two packets of hobnobs for it John 


Rob

[Brass_Machine]

I have no idea what was actually sold other than the domain name and old forum's database. How that all works legally, I have no idea. It doesn't seem possible that they can apply the TOS to posts made before it came into place.

All are welcome here. If we need separate topics for more things (or at least better descriptors) let me know.

Eric

[dsquire]

John

Check your PM's

Don

[shred]

Until the IP situation is sorted, my pictures won't be available in my old HMEM threads (anybody can drop me a line and I'll direct them to them).  I wouldn't put them out there if I didn't want to share them, but I also don't want to give somebody else 100% rights to them.

[John Stevenson]

too right Shred.
Most of my posts are out there and as far as I'm concerned in the public domain as most of them are replies to help posts.

However if i had done a large build log I's bee a bit pi$$ed if someone took control over it, watermarks or not.

[raynerd]

John - I never knew you were homeworkshop !!!

Many many karma points directed to you!!! - that site is amazing, I`ve bought and sold a lot of stuff on there. 

[steamer]

A sad state of affairs.    I've resigned from HMEM as a Moderator.    My life has been very busy anyway, and  I've seen enough

Glad to be here Eric....

Dave

[sbwhart]

Sir John , Earl of Bridgeport & Sudspumpwater. MBE [ Motor Bike Engineer ] Nottingham England.
 
I didn't know you were a member of the nobility John

 

Nice one

Stew

[doubleboost]

Hi
It is a real shame this has happend
I did not post that much on HMEM but i was a frequent visitor
Rest assured you will recive fair play on this forum
John

[PatJ]

If they don't remove my drawings, I am going to talk to a lawyer.

I specifically state on all my drawings "not for commercial use".

HMEM is now selling "Premium Membership", and advertising.
HMEM is now officially a "for profit" commercial site.

I set up CSEE, and I know how to do it, and would be glad to show anyone else how to do the same.
I would be glad to help any former HMEM'ers do their own thing, regardless of how you feel about me (I guess we all have likers and haters).

I know how to set up a forum though, I can help.
I can have you up and running on a new site tomorrow, and the new site does not have to be related to me in any way.
Been there, done that, can do it again if you guys want to do your own thing.

Let me know.
It is not fair what HMEM did.

Pat J

Edit:
CSEE costs me about $150.00/year to operate.
A large group could easily absorb 10 times that amount.

[steamer]

I made my resignation public

Done!

Dave

[John Stevenson]

John - I never knew you were homeworkshop !!!

Many many karma points directed to you!!! - that site is amazing, I`ve bought and sold a lot of stuff on there. 

Yes been running it since Jan 2005, small son came on board in 2009 when we had to move to larger servers due to the bandwidth. Best bit is the whole site if free to anyone buying or selling, no fees and limited adverts which barely covers the costs.

Only run as a service to the community.

Pat J.
Starting new forums up ad hoc will only dilute the user base. Though needs to go into this so as not to just finish up with splinter groups.

It would be nice if this forum could accommodate the influx as many are members of both.

[Brass_Machine]

...
It would be nice if this forum could accommodate the influx as many are members of both.

Only run as a service to the community.

We can. We have the bandwidth to support it.

[PatJ]

At this point, the issue is a matter of trust.

Not that I don't trust Eric, but if I were the former HMEM mods, I would get together as a group, and start a new forum, and make sure that everyone understands that it cannot be sold or made commercial, and publicly state that in the new forum intro.

Then the old HMEM guys can rest assured that this doesn't happen to them again.

I have a lot of drawings in there, and I spent a ton of time on them.
Now someone else is making a profit from that, and I get nothing.

Not a good situation, and I won't be taking it sitting down either.

Pat J

[Brass_Machine]

At this point, the issue is a matter of trust.

Not that I don't trust Eric, but if I were the former HMEM mods, I would get together as a group, and start a new forum, and make sure that everyone understands that it cannot be sold or made commercial, and publicly state that in the new forum intro.
...

You realize I am a mod at HMEM? Dsquire is a mod here and HMEM as well? I am in constant contact with the current and former mods?

Eric

[PatJ]

Eric-

I realize many are members/mods of both sites.

I know Rick, I don't have a problem repeating any of this to him personally, or to anyone else.

What he has done is not fair or right, and some will stay with a commercialized HMEM, and will always be suspect as to whether they sold out, and some will not sell out, and will go elsewhere, or start their own forum.

Feel free to repeat any and all of my posts anywhere to anyone.
I have no problem with that.
I do have a problem with what has happened on HMEM.

[Chuck in E. TN]

Wow, folks need to take a chill pill or 2! Let the change ride for a while. I fore one, if I don't like what I see in a week or a month will disapear like last months wages. I hate winers!
Chuck

[Troutsqueezer]

What an interesting day. Pivotal might be one word to describe it.   

[Brass_Machine]

Pat. You misunderstood what I am saying. I sent you a PM clarifying.