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So what's 60mm in old money?
« on: November 07, 2012, 07:26:27 PM »
Good news for those who are mathematically challenged. This Hong Kong firm has provided a conversion for you

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/60mm-2-4-11-OD-1mm-Thickness-72T-HSS-Circular-Slitting-Saw-Blade-/200837073666?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item2ec2d28b02

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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2012, 08:50:27 PM »
Good news for those who are mathematically challenged. This Hong Kong firm has provided a conversion for you
 :lol:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/60mm-2-4-11-OD-1mm-Thickness-72T-HSS-Circular-Slitting-Saw-Blade-/200837073666?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item2ec2d28b02

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Beats 2.362198" I guess :)
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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2012, 04:59:21 AM »
I'm sure that 2 4/11ths is going to be invaluable for my mental metric conversions!

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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2012, 05:58:03 AM »
 :lol: :lol: :lol:  you never used 11ths before Ray  :Doh:

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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2012, 07:45:29 AM »
Funny thing is, I'll always remember it! And by dint of simple arithmetic I'll know 30mm = 1-2/11",etc,etc...

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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2012, 10:48:06 AM »
Why introduce such complexity when they could have used the patently obvious 2 & 46/127 ?
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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2012, 06:50:37 AM »
Has anyone realized that the standard imperial system is binary and can be represented directly in ones and zeros. the metric system cannot and has an inherent error try to give a third of one in decimal. :doh: :doh:
1/2, 1/4, 1/16,1/32,1/64,1/128. or any part thereof, is binary.
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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2012, 08:36:43 AM »
Ah, yes, the heady days in junior school (UK) adding up columns of pounds shillings and pence, Yards, feet and inches, Tons, hundredweights, stones, pounds and ounces, all with a vulgar fraction column if appropriate. Get beyond school and your employer would have one or more of these

http://www.vintagecalculators.com/html/comptometer.html

somewhere working out your wages (or you may be the operator of it, as my first wife was)

Even copying down your homework question from the blackboard was a herculean task and prone to error.

Marv rightly refers to this as the inferial system. Quite why the US grimly hangs on to it for linear measurement is a mystery. But then, we thought it was normal in those days.

Anyway, enough of my rambling, I must continue my search for that old school wooden rule marked in 11ths.

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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2012, 09:52:39 AM »
Some industries still work in imperial in UK.
Having worked in it i used to convert over to metric unless thous up to 1" What gaffer didnt know, couldnt complain about.
I remember the old 50 bob note, threpenny bit etc and did pounds shilling and d at school.

Aluminium is still made and sold in imperial, thought that was pushing it 28 years ago.

I get dimensions from customers in US, i always convert to metric though theres an ever increasing amount that are changing to metric.

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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2012, 10:50:38 AM »
We learnt all sorts of useful tables of measurement, from the back of the notebooks we had,

10 chains in a a furlong,
 8 furlongs one mile.

 A furlong being a a furrow-long, the distance that Oxen could plough without stopping for breath! I've never bothered to work out what a metric furlong is, I've only lived in France for thirty three years and I haven't needed it yet!

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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2012, 11:02:17 AM »
what about a rod , pole or perch , a bushel


a chain is easy its the distance between three wooden rods with two bits on top the same at the other end then some people in white come out and do a rain dance   :D



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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2012, 12:10:12 PM »
A chain is 22yards, the length of a cricket pitch

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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2012, 12:39:45 PM »
Aren't bathroom scales in the UK still calibrated in stones?  Stones always seemed such a perfect unit for the folks who built Stonehenge.

My favorite unit has always been the perch.  It evokes a mental picture of crazed, Monty Pythonesque, rag-clad peasants madly measuring a field with an enormous fish [named Wanda, no doubt}.

The acre, supposedly the area of land a man could plow in a day, was 40 perch long and 4 perch wide.
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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2012, 01:36:27 PM »
what about a rod , pole or perch , a bushel


a chain is easy its the distance between three wooden rods with two bits on top the same at the other end then some people in white come out and do a rain dance   :D

Sorry, I'm a bit slow on the uptake some times! Didn't get you 'till the third time I read it!


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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2012, 03:35:31 PM »
Sorry about that its a warped Derbyshire Engineer's humour



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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2012, 04:05:09 PM »
Aren't bathroom scales in the UK still calibrated in stones?  Stones always seemed such a perfect unit for the folks who built Stonehenge.

My favorite unit has always been the perch.  It evokes a mental picture of crazed, Monty Pythonesque, rag-clad peasants madly measuring a field with an enormous fish [named Wanda, no doubt}.

The acre, supposedly the area of land a man could plow in a day, was 40 perch long and 4 perch wide.

In Stones, Pounds or kg. Depends where the switch is if they're digital.
 
It's 'Plough' BTW  :) 
Ellishly complicated, sorry ...  :scratch: :scratch: :lol:
http://www.sizes.com/units/ell.htm
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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2012, 04:21:19 PM »
Aren't bathroom scales in the UK still calibrated in stones?  Stones always seemed such a perfect unit for the folks who built Stonehenge.

My favorite unit has always been the perch.  It evokes a mental picture of crazed, Monty Pythonesque, rag-clad peasants madly measuring a field with an enormous fish [named Wanda, no doubt}.

The acre, supposedly the area of land a man could plow in a day, was 40 perch long and 4 perch wide.

It's 'Plough' BTW  :) 
http://www.sizes.com/units/ell.htm
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which you lot undoubtedly pronounce as "pluff" so it rhymes with "tough".

But then what can one expect of a country where "hundredweights" weigh 112 pounds?

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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2012, 04:25:26 PM »

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which you lot undoubtedly pronounce as "pluff" so it rhymes with "tough".

But then what can one expect of a country where "hundredweights" weigh 112 pounds?
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It's a bit like you pronounce Solder "soder" and "soldier" soldier idiomatic! Plough on!

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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2012, 04:34:20 PM »
Trying to figure out the old French Ligne and Pouce explains why France invented the metric system.  The standardized conversion for a ligne is 2.2558291 mm (1 mm = 0.443296 ligne) which is 1/12 of a pouce. :doh:

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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2012, 04:48:19 PM »
Matt .. I pronounce solder as just that, solder ...  :thumbup:  with an 'L'
Marv .. 'plough'  is ploff, rhymes with 'cough' ...  :)
Don't know if you are aware of this, I believe attributed to G B Shaw ..
'GHOTI'  is ' FISH'
'gh' is 'f' as in 'enough'
'o' is 'i' as in 'women'
'ti' is 'sh' as in 'nation'
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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2012, 04:49:48 PM »

SNIP

But then what can one expect of a country where "hundredweights" weigh 112 pounds?

As someone once said : 'Who but the English would write "FIRE" on a bucket and then fill it with water?'   :) 

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Best regards,

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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2012, 09:12:37 AM »
Marv said:

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But then what can one expect of a country where "hundredweights" weigh 112 pounds?

Easy enough. A weight is 1lb 1 & 23/25 ozs. Just a hundred of 'em.

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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2012, 02:44:11 PM »
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As someone once said : 'Who but the English would write "FIRE" on a bucket and then fill it with water?'   :) 

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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2012, 03:25:05 AM »
which USA company put up the error code on a DOS  Os

"keyboard not connected press F1 to continue"   :Doh:


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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2012, 04:01:34 AM »
 F1  Is'nt that going round in circles very fast ????. :palm:

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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2012, 07:11:39 AM »
naw thats indy car racing in the states


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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2012, 07:55:06 AM »
At least a "ten foot pole" as in "I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole" is a pole or stick ten feet long.  They were originally used by loggers to quickly estimate the sizes of logs as they were floated down a river.

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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2012, 01:05:37 PM »
We must not forget the measuring system so beloved of UK newspapers:

Length: London omnibuses, as in "As long as three London buses"

Area (large): Wales, as in "Three times the size of Wales"

Area (small): Football (soccer) pitches, as in "An area twice the size of a football pitch". An elastic unit, as football pitches can vary in area, within certain limits

Volume (large): The Albert Hall, as in "enough to fill the Albert Hall three times over"

Volume (small): Olympic swimming pools "as big as five Olympic pools"

Small diameter: a human hair, though this is used only in the singular and as a maximum,  as in "half the thickness of a human hair".

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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2012, 01:44:00 PM »
Whatever i come to measure i have found that it is ALLWAYS twice as long as half of it.  :palm: :loco:

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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2012, 12:28:23 PM »
I remember the old 50 bob note

Sorry Jonny, it was a ten bob note, a big brown thing! Half a quid.
For those not so blessed; a pound was 20 shillings, a shilling was 12 pennies, and a penny was two ha'pennies or four farthings; 240 pennies to a pound!  :Doh:
For the posh, a guinea was one pound and one shilling.
We only went to metric money in 1971, no wonder I failed my 11Plus that year:lol:

Saying that, I tried a test just now and only got 11/15, and I have got a degree in English and History! :lol:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7773974.stm

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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #30 on: November 19, 2012, 01:04:07 PM »
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Saying that, I tried a test just now and only got 11/15, and I have got a degree in English and History! :lol:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7773974.stm

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Andy,

I got 13/15 and I haven't got a degree in English, History or anything else for that matter - an HND for me.

We were out on a ride with our cycling club a few weeks ago and I bought a bag of Uncle Joe's Mintballs. I handed them round to the others but soon ran out - they were 99p and I think there were 14 in the bag - making each Mintball 7.07p each! One of our members was a sweet wholesaler and he said that, in the 50's, Uncle Joe's were sold at 3 for 1d - that's 7.2 for a new penny or nearly 713 for my 99p! I remember buying Blackjacks and Fruit Salads at 4 for an old penny on my way home from school. No wonder I've not got many teeth left!

How much would £1 worth of farthings weigh in for now?

 :beer:

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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #31 on: November 19, 2012, 05:33:25 PM »
Suprised the Firkin not been mentioned yet, A nine gallon barrel a quarter of a standard 36 gallon beer barrel.
The unit of measurement still in use in our workshops. We have all made something too Firkin short, too Firkin long, bored or turned something too firkin big or small. cant just be me i hope.
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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #32 on: November 19, 2012, 08:33:54 PM »
We can't even agree on the capacity of a beer barrel. They are 31 gallons on this side of the pond.

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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #33 on: November 19, 2012, 09:04:09 PM »
We can't even agree on the capacity of a beer barrel. They are 31 gallons on this side of the pond.

Joe

That may well be the case but the British give 32 more ounces per gallon.  :Doh:

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Re: So what's 60mm in old money?
« Reply #34 on: November 20, 2012, 03:13:16 AM »
When I was a draughtsman, one place I was at used to have a very officious chief inspector, who once told me in a fit of pique ''.....you can dimension it however you bl...y like as long as there's a scale to inches".  So just to cheer him up I dimensioned a drawing in cubits, with conversion factors/scales to millimeters and inches.
Give him his due he saw the funny side of it.  He told me to "Go away" (if you catch my drift) when I suggested we use fathoms for the big bits though.
But that was in the dark ages, you know waaaaaay before they invented CAD.
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