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Re: A boring table for a Craftsman 12" lathe
« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2013, 10:19:15 PM »
Spent a little while today adjusting the gib -- had to mill a small amount off because even though the table fit on the saddle and the proper surfaces were in bearing, the gib was slightly cocked. It was just a couple thou too wide. So without gib screws it leaned, which allowed the table to set down on the ways and look right, but not be right.

Anyway, clocked the gib in the vise on the mill and skimmed it 5 thou. After that everything fit well and it was time to drill for gib screws.

I wanted 4 but I didn't want them to end up where they would interfere with the table surface hold down screws (yet to be added). So they needed to be located roughly where the present channels are milled into the table. This meant 3 screws or 5 screws, and thinking 3 were too widely spaced, I went with 5. Kind of overkill but, well, it certainly doesn't hurt anything.

Drilling:

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Re: A boring table for a Craftsman 12" lathe
« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2013, 10:27:10 PM »
I checked the original cross slide gib screws and found they were 1/4"-28 -- fine thread. Pretty tight clearance to the bottom of the slide -- not a lot of meat there -- the dovetail is 5/16. But enough I guess, so I followed suit.

Picked up the little trick from DoubleBoost's videos of running the mill with the tap in it, switching off and lowering the quill into the hole to start the thread. Worked great. Thanks John!  :thumbup:



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Re: A boring table for a Craftsman 12" lathe
« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2013, 10:34:48 PM »
And finally today, added screws, set the table on the apron, tightened for light contact, and proceeded to slide, then yank at the table. Sliding went smoothly, no movement when I tried to force it to the side, not a click. Nice solid fit.

The screws are a little short for adding lock nuts and taking up wear in the future, so I'll have to head back to town tomorrow to pick up longer, ones. But all in all, well pleased today.


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Re: A boring table for a Craftsman 12" lathe
« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2013, 02:22:30 AM »
Excellent result Steve. Not only looks good but is good :wave:
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Re: A boring table for a Craftsman 12" lathe
« Reply #29 on: September 04, 2013, 05:54:41 PM »
Very nice this is one project I will have to do my clausing doesn't have the slotted table either or a follow rest thanks for showing!

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Re: A boring table for a Craftsman 12" lathe
« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2013, 06:21:54 PM »
Thanks Andrew, Tom  :beer:

Today was hole day. Whole lotta holes.

I took the scale off of a 3/8" thick piece of steel plate which will cover the casting and will eventually be milled for the top groove of the t slots. I lined it and the casting up on the mill and spotted screw locations:


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Re: A boring table for a Craftsman 12" lathe
« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2013, 06:25:29 PM »
Then started drilling tap size:


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Re: A boring table for a Craftsman 12" lathe
« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2013, 07:12:27 PM »
Then drilled the clearance holes:


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Re: A boring table for a Craftsman 12" lathe
« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2013, 07:16:13 PM »
Then the countersinks:

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Re: A boring table for a Craftsman 12" lathe
« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2013, 07:20:23 PM »
Then began tapping holes:


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Re: A boring table for a Craftsman 12" lathe
« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2013, 07:23:51 PM »
And this is where I left it by supper time. Ten down, eight to go:



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Re: A boring table for a Craftsman 12" lathe
« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2013, 02:46:05 AM »
I think that you need to put a self reversing tapping head on your Christmas present list. I'd lend you one but you're miles away!
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Re: A boring table for a Craftsman 12" lathe
« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2013, 05:30:42 AM »
Today was hole day. Whole lotta holes.

Whole lotta of holes. Whola lotta....


You must have reached some soth of zen state of mind at certain point of threadin :lol:

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Re: A boring table for a Craftsman 12" lathe
« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2013, 08:38:25 AM »
Looking great so far.   I also miss not having a table on my Atlas 12".   You always come up with cool solutions and then execute them well.  :clap:

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Re: A boring table for a Craftsman 12" lathe
« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2013, 08:52:00 AM »
Andrew, Pekka, B85V, thanks!

It's not so bad, maybe an hour and a half. No boss and nobody's paying me. Probably the only time I'll have to do this particular thing in the rest of my life. It will yield a boring table that I built myself.

What I find difficult is concentrating enough not to make a mistake -- working from my head without a drawing or CAD, using this mill drill with lots of backlash and no DRO makes it challenging. In a small way, challenge equals fun. I guess that is zen!  :med:

Now mowing the lawn....... that's tedious!

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Re: A boring table for a Craftsman 12" lathe
« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2013, 01:11:43 PM »
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Now mowing the lawn....... that's tedious!

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Isn't that what goats are for?  :lol: :lol:

You're making a fine job as usual.  :clap:

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Re: A boring table for a Craftsman 12" lathe
« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2013, 05:50:20 PM »
Thanks Don! Grass? Don I think sheep -- not an animal husbandry type, but I think goats eat brush...... So does a Deere   :lol:.

Today's attack on metal object:

Holes all tapped, in fact one too many -- that central one needed to be drilled out to 3/8 to fit the lead nut:





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Re: A boring table for a Craftsman 12" lathe
« Reply #42 on: September 05, 2013, 05:51:24 PM »
Then it was time to start milling the slots:


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Re: A boring table for a Craftsman 12" lathe
« Reply #43 on: September 05, 2013, 05:52:18 PM »
Slots all done:



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Re: A boring table for a Craftsman 12" lathe
« Reply #44 on: September 05, 2013, 05:55:48 PM »
Skimmed it all with the homemade carbide fly mill, and set it up on the lathe to see how it all looked. The nut I have to duplicate (from the lathe's cross slide) with a little modification to suit the height of the boring table is sitting on the back. You can also see a T-nut being tried in one of the slots. It fits really nicely. Another good day.





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Re: A boring table for a Craftsman 12" lathe
« Reply #45 on: September 06, 2013, 06:35:09 PM »
To make the nut I need an acme 10 TPI internal threading tool. I found elsewhere on the forum instructions for making threading tools on the lathe, so I thought I'd try it.

Here's my first effort:

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Re: A boring table for a Craftsman 12" lathe
« Reply #46 on: September 07, 2013, 02:42:22 AM »
I remember those have not tried them yet though they should be perfect!

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Re: A boring table for a Craftsman 12" lathe
« Reply #47 on: September 07, 2013, 03:26:52 AM »
I think it would be better to make a tap , as it is square thread or half a tap similar to a D bit , http://www.rdgtools.co.uk/acatalog/ACME_TAPS__LEFT_HAND_.html the link shows a tap with square grooves milled along the length .
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Re: A boring table for a Craftsman 12" lathe
« Reply #48 on: September 07, 2013, 08:57:32 AM »
Tom, Chipenter, thanks -- always looking to try new things (to me). And this site is a great resource for that. Hope I'm contributing something in return. :nrocks:

Chipenter, a tap would have been my first choice, especially since I'm sure I could use it again in the future. But a quick check of the usual machinery resources here in the U.S. showed acme taps of this size (1/2"-10) were approximately $100  :bugeye:
I wonder if they are made of platinum?

I'd seen a youtube vid of a roughly made acme tap, but I don't have acme threaded rod on hand, so would have to order that. Also it can't be hardened, though in this case I'm not cutting steel.

I'm very curious about the tooth shape boring bar turning method -- it's fun and I have drill rod on hand.

Missed the link last post, here it is:

http://madmodder.net/index.php?topic=3523.0

I can see several improvements I could do to my technique after this first one -- mainly to increase stiffness:

1.) the bar should be as wide as possible -- to fit the internal starting diameter of the nut.
2.) the bar should be as short as possible with just enough clearance to pass through the nut and a little bit more to stop the carriage in time.
3.) the cutting profile should be as short as possible, with just enough clearance to clear the cut.
4.) although I have tempered to appropriate colors in the past for boring bars, I believe this one should be made like the OP suggested, dead hard, to maintain the highest sharpness through the cut.

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Re: A boring table for a Craftsman 12" lathe
« Reply #49 on: September 07, 2013, 11:05:15 AM »
Thinking about the above, for a 1/2" x 10 TPI thread, I think I'll try this:

1.) start out with stock equal to the nominal diameter -- in this case 1/2".
2.) turn the end button and shank to a depth of 3/8"- which yields about 125% tooth depth
3.) after making the flute flat, grind off the outside turning tooth profile for clearance.

I think that will make a much heavier shank.
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