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Tapping Stand
« on: December 22, 2013, 08:03:05 AM »
This post will be my first attempt at a Project Log :doh:

We will try to Turn a 22.5" Ferm pillar drill into a tapping stand.
We have already take the electric's off and now struggling with taking off the front pulley, any ideas??
« Last Edit: December 24, 2013, 01:39:55 AM by dsquire »

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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2013, 08:06:21 AM »
Look for a setscrew hidden at the bottom of one of the belt grooves.

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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2013, 08:07:56 AM »
Yes - Already removed with Allen Key - Still tight to remove :lol:

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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2013, 08:09:23 AM »
Warm it up with a hot air gun and use a puller....generally works....
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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2013, 08:16:42 AM »
Good idea, will borrow a puller on Monday   :D

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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2013, 10:07:54 AM »
Yes - Already removed with Allen Key - Still tight to remove :lol:

You might check there aren't 2 screws in there. Not uncommon to have one on top of the other in a 'locking' arrangement.

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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2013, 10:15:33 AM »
Sorry didn't realise anyway of fixing?   :Doh:

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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2013, 10:18:46 AM »
Doesn't really matter much I think ... MODs'll shift it if they want to.  :thumbup:

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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2013, 10:24:37 AM »
anyone know how to get pics were you want not just at bottom? sorry im new

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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2013, 10:29:23 AM »
Johns Idea worked but instead of using a puller we levered it away with screwdrivers
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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2013, 10:34:10 AM »
We then took away the safety shield
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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2013, 10:38:20 AM »
On this drill the coil is too strong to push from above so we need to take it out and weaken it
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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2013, 10:41:22 AM »
We then took off 2 of the 3 handles. I saw that we could use them on our lathe, as the tool change block needs a thin but strong item to tighten it and offen they bend and we need to make new ones.
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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2013, 11:50:28 AM »
anyone know how to get pics were you want not just at bottom? sorry im new
Hi Dan,

See http://madmodder.net/index.php/topic,607.msg2864.html#msg2864

The method requires that your photos are hosted somewhere on the web (e.g. Photobucket).

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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2013, 12:56:06 PM »
Thank You will try it

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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2013, 02:24:27 PM »
Right so we had a redesign instead of weakening the spring we just took it off
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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2013, 02:27:02 PM »
Then we put the case back on as a washer
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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2013, 02:28:49 PM »
We then realised that on the upstroke it would tighten so we had 2 put on 2 washers and lock them
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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2013, 02:30:08 PM »
also the chuck is rusted and no pics sorry :worthless:

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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2013, 02:30:52 PM »
Day 1 over :(

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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2013, 02:52:05 PM »
Hi Dan
                  Looks just the right size for a tapping stand, good luck with the project.
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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2013, 03:58:35 PM »
Good idea that man, i have just bought myself a bigger drill so the little Machinemart job ( same as yours different colour ) will do the job..
I will be following with interest.
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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2013, 04:06:26 PM »
Dan
Nice work, keep us up on all your mods. A tapping stand can be used for more than tapping.
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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2013, 04:38:19 AM »
Start of day 2 :)

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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2013, 04:43:17 AM »
Warning: :offtopic: This is just a sub project. My full project is making Sbwharts or Stew's Lathe only engine. Just finished theturning on the eccentric yesterday just some holes left , here are some pics  :offtopic: :Warning
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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2013, 07:18:27 AM »
Good going Dan you've nearly got all the parts done.  Nice looking base. .

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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #26 on: December 23, 2013, 07:34:23 AM »
Tapping stand or Lathe Only ?

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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #27 on: December 23, 2013, 02:39:44 PM »
Back to work on the tapping stand
Right, so instead of using the rack and pinion we used the measurer on the front to support the chuck.  We used the bracket from the shield but first taking the Perspex off .  After we reassembled the spring mechanism on the front we realised that the spring was too strong so we are getting a new one.  That is easier to push from above.
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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #28 on: December 23, 2013, 02:41:32 PM »
Be careful when taking out the rack and pinion however.  :doh:  :doh:  :doh:
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« Reply #29 on: December 23, 2013, 02:52:24 PM »
Now instead of turning our own part that drives the tap, we used the old pulley, but first we needed to adapt it by sawing off one of the grooves. We then drilled a 6mm hole and inserted a bar in the top, so you can push down and turn the tap with more force. Here is the concept in an image.  :smart: . BTW to secure the pulley back on the shaft we reused the little bolt in the side of the pulley. 
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« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2013, 02:58:35 PM »
The base was a little rusty so I got some wire wool out and started scrubbing away, you might be able to see on the photo where I have cleaned :Spotless ??:
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« Reply #31 on: December 23, 2013, 03:13:47 PM »
End of day 2 :(

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« Reply #32 on: December 24, 2013, 04:20:09 AM »
Start of day 3 :)

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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #33 on: December 24, 2013, 07:22:23 AM »
We then drilled a 6mm hole in the pulley

<a href="http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/t405/Toptracks3719/004.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/t405/Toptracks3719/004.jpg</a>





After we found 6mm for it.  Sadly, it was slightly too short we then put on the handels off the old drill for looks




<a href="http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/t405/Toptracks3719/007.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/t405/Toptracks3719/007.jpg</a>

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« Reply #34 on: December 24, 2013, 07:32:43 AM »
Production stopped because of this thing called Christmas  :D good progress so far

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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #35 on: December 27, 2013, 08:07:24 AM »
Back to Work!!

We turned down the diameter on the bar to allow us to thread it <a href="http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/t405/Toptracks3719/002.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/t405/Toptracks3719/002.jpg</a>.  Then we Araldited the small bar into 2 bigger bars then screwed on the handles.



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Right remember how we needed a spring we got one out of a cracker and it is the right size and tension.  but first I learnt the party trick.



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2 minor jobs to complete the project.




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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #36 on: December 27, 2013, 08:31:44 AM »
Back to Work!!
We turned down the diameter on the bar to allow us to thread it .  Then we Araldited the small bar into 2 bigger bars then screwed on the handles.



Right remember how we needed a spring we got one out of a cracker and it is the right size and tension.  but first I learnt the party trick.



2 minor jobs to complete the project.

Hi Dan The Man,

I don't know if anyone else can see the images but I can't and I think you've clicked on the wrong button to insert an image. You need to click on the 4th button from the left on the bottom row (looks like a tiny Mona Lisa) which will put "img" and "/img" (both in square brackets) in the text and then you paste the image url in between.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #37 on: December 28, 2013, 03:18:32 PM »
did it happen for post 33 and Dose it happen on anyone else's? its normal on mine

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« Reply #38 on: December 28, 2013, 03:33:57 PM »
did it happen for post 33 and Dose it happen on anyone else's? its normal on mine

Reply 33 is the same for me - no images - just rectangles with nothing in them but a red cross in the corner. I can't speak for anyone else but I just tried looking at your posts on my wife's iPad and can't see the images on that either.

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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #39 on: December 28, 2013, 04:33:22 PM »
did it happen for post 33 and Dose it happen on anyone else's? its normal on mine

Reply 33 is the same for me - no images - just rectangles with nothing in them but a red cross in the corner. I can't speak for anyone else but I just tried looking at your posts on my wife's iPad and can't see the images on that either.

Cheers.

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Post 33 looks OK to me, two piccys ..


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« Reply #40 on: December 28, 2013, 04:48:18 PM »
did it happen for post 33 and Dose it happen on anyone else's? its normal on mine
Hi again,

As others seem to be able to see them I looked using Google Chrome (I usually use Internet Explorer) and I could see the images! They were very small however - is that how you intended them to be?

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« Reply #41 on: December 29, 2013, 03:57:18 AM »
I was using the 2nd tab across (flash)  it may not work for you if you have a outdated version of flash player. I will try to put one of the pics in this post







This time have put it in insert pic. Thank you for your help   :D

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« Reply #42 on: December 31, 2013, 11:20:29 AM »
Now to finish we put a plastic handle on the top that can be used to apply pressure when tapping.

Then it was done, we may later paint it but not for now.  Thanks for the good support and  :mmr: :headbang: 

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« Reply #43 on: December 31, 2013, 11:21:39 AM »
Project Finished

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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #44 on: January 01, 2014, 12:12:28 PM »
Good Job::

Am I missing something?  What are you using to hold the taps?

I all ways dreamed about finding a four jaw 1/2 inch drill chuck.

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Re: Tapping Stand
« Reply #45 on: January 01, 2014, 12:17:48 PM »
Good Job::

Am I missing something?  What are you using to hold the taps?

I all ways dreamed about finding a four jaw 1/2 inch drill chuck.

Ivan

I had the same dream. I had to make my own 4 jaw tap chuck, see:
http://mikesworkshop.weebly.com/improved-chuck-for-taps.html
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« Reply #46 on: January 01, 2014, 04:39:38 PM »
Good Job::

Am I missing something?  What are you using to hold the taps?

I all ways dreamed about finding a four jaw 1/2 inch drill chuck.

Ivan

I had the same dream. I had to make my own 4 jaw tap chuck, see:
http://mikesworkshop.weebly.com/improved-chuck-for-taps.html
Mike

Hey Mike Thanks for that link, looks real nice, gona have to make me one.

Just what I need another fricken project.  :loco:

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