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A new type of hydroelectric
« on: February 26, 2014, 05:13:01 PM »

A new type of hydroelectric:
If you think that you know all kinds of hydroelectric then you are notch in mistaken ..     :Doh:
Here I have invented a new type of hydroelectric power plant that uses water fall produced by waves..

So, here is the sea, the British shows them for years, as same storms the fenced off shore .. which formed small pool ... Now the water accumulated there, you can refer back to the sea, but by the turbine, which will be make electricity .. The simplest solution ... A little more civilized, I invent .. here they are. Even with the smaller waves works .. In Scotland, the annual average wave height is 3 m .. And the car would probably put a nuclear engineers to examine how quickly the corrosive materials used in its construction .. In the video you can see that even a police officer imagines that in such a way that you can produce energy ..:rolleyes:

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Re: A new type of hydroelectric
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2014, 05:56:49 PM »
The turbine is to be the trigger salt water back into the sea. Here some drawings that explain. You can build a special vortex, as there is a high coast. And the picture only in the world peak power pump salt water. But pump water upwards through the for feedback electrical current. I propose that the water pump teeth using sea waves-moving pumps with valves ..










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Re: A new type of hydroelectric
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2014, 05:57:04 AM »
With some clever valve configurations it could pump water on both the upstroke and the downstroke.
Turns out this life c**p is just one big distraction from death but a good one. For the love of god dont give yourself time to think.
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Re: A new type of hydroelectric
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2014, 06:13:35 AM »
Yes, this requires the development of this idea .. Here also, how to pump the water to a high reservoir, initially using small of pressure ..

A big thanks AndrewF ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJwprhkwYdQ

Indeed as we have energy in excess, it can use it for pumping water on big height. Thanks tems Sytstem the waves of the sea may be even lower pressure designed .. Well, for example, only 2 bars .. which then drives the ram pump to a height of 125 meters  (12,5  bara), it can pump water 

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Re: A new type of hydroelectric
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2014, 06:15:40 AM »
Here we see that nuclear power plants and water are exposed to blowing up .. My idea of ??all the tanks of salt water, to build on the high coast of the sea, is very safe and resistant to the threat of terrorism .. Because if even jtos shaft blow tank, the stored water, practically this water will not do any damage, because the drain into the sea, which is near ..

http://enenews.com/bbc-ukraine-on-brink-of-civil-war-govt-threats-to-blow-up-nuclear-plants-facilities-on-high-alert-after-seizure-of-energy-ministry-official-state-of-emergency-possible-video



Now we see the picture, the upper lake with an area of ??1.2 km sqare .. gives you energy for 8 hours, 700 MW ... or 24 hours it would have to be 3.6 km sqare ..
Imagine this upper lake measuring 8 km x 8 km = 64 km sqare ..
64/3, 6 = 17 .. now 17 x 700 = 12, 000 MW ~ ..
That is more than all British nuclear plants...: P

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Re: A new type of hydroelectric
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2014, 06:23:32 AM »
Posted 04 March 2014 - 22:20
Greg Locock, on 04 Mar 2014 - 22:14, said:
I think, if you live in an uninhabited country, that coastal hydro makes a lot of sense. But at least where most of us live the idea of flooding the coastal plains is a fairly drastic solution, not much different to the threats of rising sea level which may or may not turn out to be significant..


Nuclear power plant of 800 MW shall be adopted for the area of 5 x 5 km ... 64 km square So it have any 3 such power ... but here is 12000 MW of free space for 15 nuclear power plants .. that is the difference, ie 12 will surface to be used for example to residence .. of course, the surface of the sea with swimmers will be pumping big ..
 
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Can someone pay me for finding 300 square km of free land in the UK?  :lol:



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Re: A new type of hydroelectric
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2014, 06:29:46 AM »
Feliks, on 09 Nov 2009 - 20:55, said:
That if to fill all unused spaces up on ships with this polystyrene foam, most probably they stood unsinkable .

Thanks to the fact that it wouldn't be possible to sink them,
a lot of people so that it is possible to rescue.
And next
then to the shipyard it would be possible to tow away


Recently I noticed ,that the aircraft would be very useful by the ability to swimming
Two days ago :

BBC  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8347913.stm

tu142  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-142


If such a shortcut poliuretane foam for construction of such parameters:





Specifications specific gravity after hardening 11 - 16 ,3 kg/m3* Base polyurethane Productivity of 825 ml – 66 litres * c 100 mb of the stream about the diameter of 5 2 cm * Pyłosuchość 8 - 10 minutes * Time of processing 15 - 30 minutes * Time of hardening from 5 up to 48 h (full mechanical load capacity) * a free access of air is Necessary. One should not apply foam in rooms closed tightly. Resistance to UV rays weak in outside applications one should shelter the surface of foam from the UV radiation. Structure of cells of c 70 % smoothed, evenly closed cells thermal Resistance after hardening from – 40 ° C to + 90 ° C (short-term to + 140 ° C)


15 bottle give 1 m^3 (1000 litres) cost about 80 $ , this can swimm 1 tones

Tupolew 142 have 80 ton weight 80 x 15 = , need 1200 pieces bottles this foam .


All cost of foam 80 x 80 $= 6400 $.
Whole weight of the foam to allow the total buoyancy such an airplane is 1200 KG
It is only 1% of the total weight of the aircraft.

Wig area is 311 m^2 , 80 m^3/ 312 m^2 = 0,25 m the average amount of surface foam on the inside wings. I think that in this plane is so much unused space.

And such buoyancy of the aircraft would also be found useful for Airbus over the Atlantic, as well as the Boening over Hudson.

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Cam beck..



If my ideas and name were not banished, supposedly in the interests of different groups, it can now this flight Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 would have ended differently .. no but tell me not to fight with the Windmills of Don Quixote .. I think you are the wiser and better knowledge of what to do .. instead of listening what to do .. I wonder if those who are on hand this banning, feel at least some share of responsibility for what happened ...



Anyway, but now it comes to airplanes .. According to my old calculations in 1 square meter for the TU 142 to have a buoyancy should be an average of 25 cm of foam .. or on each side of the plate from inside the 12 cm ... It's such a little thicker siding ..

Andrew

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_maritime_disasters




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Re: A new type of hydroelectric
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2014, 02:33:47 PM »
Hi
We have drifted of the subject here
"That if to fill all unused spaces up on ships with this polystyrene foam, most probably they stood unsinkable ."

My criticism of this idea "Also off the subject". Even more TOXIC SMOKE in case of a FIRE.

Eric

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Re: A new type of hydroelectric
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2014, 06:57:34 AM »
Quote from: Richard Casto;3381043
Andrew,

I subscribe to this thread and have always enjoyed your posts, so keep them going.

Regarding the use of foam to prevent aircraft from sinking when lost at sea, I don’t have the statistics, but anecdotally, I assume that most deaths are not due to drowning, but due to impact, or other high energy violent endings.  I believe the scenarios you are discussing likely have adequate solutions in place (life rafts, etc.).

I think an excellent area for the use of that type of foam would be in help reduce the death toll for passenger and roll on/off ferry accidents.  These seem to happen in rough seas, or in overcrowding conditions with sometimes large loss of life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_maritime_disasters

Richard


Thank you very much Richard for a good link and my subscriptions. I Normally you need only the broad outlines of the new ideas I present .. they require much development, by many people .. then they really for us is profitable ..
Such inspirational posts like yours, Richard causes that describes more about the innovation ..

Here I would like to say that the majority of pilots for emergency landing was going to make sure you water, if she was sure that the plane did not sink .. The waters, even on land is not much, for example, a lake or river. This launch is a big advantage. There is minimal risk of fire aircraft .. The most spectacular example is the "Miracle on the Hudson"
Here you can see how little is needed to plane could swim ..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549



http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/13/world/aviation-mysteries/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

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Re: A new type of hydroelectric
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2014, 06:58:57 AM »
The plane actually has a tower of different things. plumbing, electrical .. But still has Most sending of empty unused space. . Of course you have to think 10 times, where we can insert each of 1 decimeter foam. Part needs to be done easily removable, in plastic bags or specially shaped profiles, that can be had for service to remove and after the back insert. It's a plane, one of the most complicated machines .. in addition with the high standards of reliability .. so it will not be pumping air into the inner tube ..
 
Andrew