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Home Base => Introductions => Topic started by: Blade on November 05, 2010, 12:22:54 AM
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Hello All,
I have been checking out the forum for a week and find it very interesting so I decided to register.
I make custom knives and like to make and fix tools.
I have a Burke Millrite mill a Hardinge dv59 and a Kerry 11 x 24 lathe, also have a Linley jig bore and a bunch of different belt grinders and other tools. I have a couple of burgmaster drill presses and a regular drill press also.
I am always on the lookout for tools, I guess you could say I'm a tool junky.
Take care,
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Welcome aboard and have fun. :wave: :wave: Thats what it's all about. If you have any questions theres usually some one who can point you in the right direction.
Ron
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Hiya Blade :wave:
Welcome to the collective :borg:
Would love to see some of your knives. I have always had an interest in doing my own. How far do you take it? Do you start from blanks or smith your own?
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I am always on the lookout for tools, I guess you could say I'm a tool junky.
Yeah... I think that describes most of us on here :med:
Eric
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Welcome Blade :wave:
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Hiya Blade :wave:
Welcome to the collective :borg:
Would love to see some of your knives. I have always had an interest in doing my own. How far do you take it? Do you start from blanks or smith your own?
I buy raw material for the blades and the liners, usualy stainless and titanium or damascus for the higher end knives. the materials come in sheets or flat bars and I lay out my patterns and cut out the parts, then I heat treat the blades and grind them and do all of the finishing. When I figure out how I will post up some pics, things are a little different here for posting images.
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Ok I guess I will have to figure out how to use the quote feature also:)
Here are a few pics of my knives. Two are Damascus and one is titanium stainless and G10.
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Those are some nice knives. I especially like the middle Damascus one. So when you say you buy the raw materials, you actually forge the Damascus? I would love to see some shots of that!
Eric
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I purchased the Damascus as bar stock for these knives, I have forged some damascus but I don't have the space for the extra equipment I need so I just buy bar stock.
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I purchased the Damascus as bar stock for these knives, I have forged some damascus but I don't have the space for the extra equipment I need so I just buy bar stock.
That's pretty cool too. Didn't know you could buy it as raw stock. After you shape and sharpen a blade, do you need to heat treat it all?
Eric
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Damascus is available from several different sources. You can get stainless or carbon steel and sometimes blends of both. The majority of it is made by by people who started as knifemakers and branched off to produce damascus for other makers.
The bars come in different sizes and are anealed when you get them so that they can be cut and drilled. Carbon steel blends are easy to heat treat and can be hardened and tempered with very simple equipment.
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Hi Blade
All i can say is stunning :bugeye:
Do you work form your own designs or can you get drawings ?
Any chance we could see a build log of the next knife you make :poke: :D
Rob
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Hello Rob,
I work from my own designs, and also from custom designs for orders.
I will try to get step by step photos to make a build log.
Thanks everyone for the welcome!
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Hello Rob,
I work from my own designs, and also from custom designs for orders.
I will try to get step by step photos to make a build log.
Thanks everyone for the welcome!
Cool. I would like to see that as well.
Eric
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Very nice knives there blade :clap:
Hope to see some more of your work :thumbup:
Cheers, John :beer:
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Hi Blade.
Welcome to the Collective! :borg:
We're a very mixed bunch on here. Someone always knows something, and everyone wants to know what you're doing. ::)
Join in. Show plenty of pics. Enjoy! :thumbup:
David D
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Hi Blade
Would be great if you could do a build log :med:
Rob
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I started a thread in the project logs section, I hope that is the right area. :dremel:
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Hi Blade,
I guess you know this site already, but if not, I think it might be of interest. I´ve done some knives (not folders) with their materials. Some pretty exotic stuff there...
https://www.brisa.fi/portal/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
And welcome aboard, of course!
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hello cidrontmg,
That site is new to me, thanks for the link!
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Posted on your build already... Just found this :doh:
As said "welcome to the collective :borg: " :thumbup:
Now then... How could people all look at those (lets be honest) stunning knives and not ask.... Cost? (PM if you like :thumbup: )
I'm personally a sucker for the damascus steels... Whatever they are used to make :) Watched all sorts of youtube videos of Japanese sword makers and Swedish axe makers.... I wish I could see colours properly. I can't harden/temper steels to save my life :(
Still, loverly work... Looking forward to seeing your knife build log develop.
Ralph.
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Hello Ralph,
You don't have to see color to harden or temper steel, any steel can be hardned by using temperature. Most stainless steels require soak times at temp of up to 30 minutes so you bring it up to temp and quench then run your tempering cycle which is usually two cycles of two hours each and a cryo cycle in between for some steels.
Take care,
Eddie
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Hi Eddie,
You don't have to see color to harden or temper steel
I've always thought it was to do with the colours? Cherry red and all that.... Red is red. There is bright red and dark red, that's about it for me ::)
I'm well in the market for a thread on hardening and tempering.... At your or anyone else's leisure. It's not like I need to do any tomorrow.... Or the next few weeks/months either as far as I know?
Still very interested in this stuff.... I did read something about tempering in an oven the other day.... Can't remember where? Thought it was a possibly an "in" joke :scratch:
anyway.... Always interested in new ways (for me) of doing things :)
Ralph.
P.S. Did you figure the Quote function out yet? I can explain if required?
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Hi Eddie,
You don't have to see color to harden or temper steel
I've always thought it was to do with the colours? Cherry red and all that.... Red is red. There is bright red and dark red, that's about it for me ::)
I'm well in the market for a thread on hardening and tempering.... At your or anyone else's leisure. It's not like I need to do any tomorrow.... Or the next few weeks/months either as far as I know?
Still very interested in this stuff.... I did read something about tempering in an oven the other day.... Can't remember where? Thought it was a possibly an "in" joke :scratch:
anyway.... Always interested in new ways (for me) of doing things :)
Ralph.
P.S. Did you figure the Quote function out yet? I can explain if required?
Yup I think I have the Qoute thing figure out. Thanks!
Using color to harden steel is usually hit or miss. Due to varying light conditions it is easy to judge the color wrong, a better way is to use a magnet. When you heat a piece of steel to the critical temperature it becomes non magnetic, by using a magnet on a rod or wire you can check your steel until the magnet will no longer stick, at that point hold the steel at temp for another 30 seconds or so and then remove and quench immediately. Another indicator That you reached proper temperature you can look for is that the scale will be falling off or blown off of the piece that you are quenching.
Another method you can use is if you have a kiln is you heat to 1500 degrees F and hold at temp for 5 minutes but you need to have an accurate pyrometer and it is best to have some type of coating for the steel to protect it from decarburizing. These methods are for simple steels like O1 W1 and the 10 steels. When you start to do more complex steels like 440c and A2 they require long soak times so you just run at temp in the kiln and then quench.
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Hey Blade, nice craftsmanship on the knives!
My think is antique clocks, but I admire good craftsmanship wherever I see it.
This is a great forum, welcome and enjoy it!
Thank you! I agree, there is nothing like looking at something that is well crafted, I love to look at anything that is hand crafted or machined and well made. I think that is what attracted me to this forum, Lots of great work here and a ton of info.
Thanks for the welcome!
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I've always thought it was to do with the colours? Cherry red and all that.... Red is red. There is bright red and dark red, that's about it for me ::)
Ralph, I've never found "cherry red" very helpful; cherries just don't seem to come in the same colour range as red-hot steel. In one of his books, L C Mason recommended the colour of boiled carrots for hardening, and that seems to work for my rough and ready stuff. The more difficult bit is tempering; I go for a straw colour, but with a direct flame it's easy to get the relatively thin bit which is going to be the cutting edge glowing red again, so it stays hard and brittle when quenched.
Andy
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Hi Andy,
When you are tempering an item with differing thickness with a torch the safest way to work it is by just applying the flame to the thickest part. This can be tricky to get the heat to travel to the entire piece without over heating where you are applying the heat. If you are trying for straw color you should be able to reach that in the oven or even a small toaster oven if you aren't allowed in the kitchen :wack:.
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Hi Blade
I'm a bit late with this but welcome to MadModder. I have been following some of your posts on the knives and it is real interesting how you can turn chunk of steel into works of art like you do. Thanks for showing them to us and I hope that you enjoy being a part of the forum. :D :D
Cheers :beer:
Don
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Hello Blade,
I'm new here too. Geoff Hague works just a few miles away from me, you may be familiar with his work. http://www.hagueknives.com (http://www.hagueknives.com)
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Hi Blade
I'm a bit late with this but welcome to MadModder. I have been following some of your posts on the knives and it is real interesting how you can turn chunk of steel into works of art like you do. Thanks for showing them to us and I hope that you enjoy being a part of the forum.
Cheers
Don
Thanks Don!
Hello Blade,
I'm new here too. Geoff Hague works just a few miles away from me, you may be familiar with his work. http://www.hagueknives.com (http://www.hagueknives.com)
Helo NilocH,
The knives look familiar I have probably seen them on the knife forums. Nice work!
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I'm new here too. Geoff Hague works just a few miles away from me, you may be familiar with his work. http://www.hagueknives.com
A grand for one knife :bugeye: :jaw: :bugeye:
I have spent £80 on my leatherman and close to that on some other purchases but a grand!!!!
Some quite nice to look at, but I'd be scared to use it!
I dare not ask how much yours are any more Eddie!
Just been re-reading all this.. Maybe some of it should be transferred to the how-to's section? there's a lot of useful info in there on hardening and tempering :thumbup:
I will one day have a go at all of this.... Just got to finish building my house, sell it, but another house with land or ready build workshop space and then kit it out and have a go! After finishing the 8/9 current projects off that is!!! ::)
Ralph.
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Hello Ralph, Yeah custom knives can be expensive. Sorry I never got back to you with a price, I meant to send you a PM, my knives range from $350 - $1200 depending on materials and how complicated the design is to build. Sometimes you can design in features that require a lot of extra work and time. I have added a couple of pics of a knife in the upper range, all of the curves make the knife harder to build, the pivot is made from damascus bar stock also and the radial hole pattern was done on a dividing head. I normally use factory made screws for most of my knives so adding custom parts and fancy materials adds to the cost. A nice set of ivory scales can cost $200 or more and damascus can run $15 -$20 an inch or more so the cost for the maker can add up quickly also
I'm new here too. Geoff Hague works just a few miles away from me, you may be familiar with his work. http://www.hagueknives.com
A grand for one knife :bugeye: :jaw: :bugeye:
I have spent £80 on my leatherman and close to that on some other purchases but a grand!!!!
Some quite nice to look at, but I'd be scared to use it!
I dare not ask how much yours are any more Eddie!
Just been re-reading all this.. Maybe some of it should be transferred to the how-to's section? there's a lot of useful info in there on hardening and tempering :thumbup:
I will one day have a go at all of this.... Just got to finish building my house, sell it, but another house with land or ready build workshop space and then kit it out and have a go! After finishing the 8/9 current projects off that is!!! ::)
Ralph.
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Ok, so... Nice is a bit of an understatement..... I'd still be scared of scratching it!! :)
I think that knife looks a lot better than the ones shown on that other site. Purely on looks, materials mean nothing if they look rubbish. (My opinion.... No one shout at me please. )
I have a feeling that the side clip might be a little stabby though? Looks quite pointed?
I do very much like the style though :thumbup: :clap:
Ralph.
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:bugeye: :bugeye: :bugeye: :bugeye: STUNNING :bow: :bow: :bow:
Quality don't come cheap :thumbup:
Rob