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Title: A couple of small roundtoits today.
Post by: websterz on April 09, 2009, 08:14:44 PM
While I am waiting for the electrician to return I figured I would get a few whatnots knocked off the list.

First I am starting to fine-tune my mill.  :proj: My extended Z axis rack will be here tomorrow. In the meantime I eliminated a BIG hunk of Z axis backlash:

(http://myweb.cableone.net/websterz/images/shop/finefeed1.jpg)

I never understood why they put a u-joint on the fine feed mechanism...to get past the p**s-poor alignment of the rest of the system perhaps? Here's the solution:

(http://myweb.cableone.net/websterz/images/shop/finefeed2.jpg)

When I change out the rack and replace the torsion spring with a counterweight I will shim the rack to get better engagement. By changing out the u-joint with a solid rod and peening the castleated clutch (I forgot to mention that) I got my backlash down from almost .070 to a much more acceptable .025.

And finally a rack for my R8 tooling, collets on the spinner endmill holders in the back:

(http://myweb.cableone.net/websterz/images/shop/R8rack.jpg)
Not huge projects but they were fun.
Title: Re: A couple of small roundtoits today.
Post by: sbwhart on April 10, 2009, 02:03:30 AM
Hi Websterz

Interesting couple of modifications you've done there  :clap:

Have Fun

Stew
Title: Re: A couple of small roundtoits today.
Post by: Stilldrillin on April 10, 2009, 02:13:10 AM
2 nice mods there Websterz!  :clap:

I too wondered about the coupling.......  :scratch:

Fortunately, mine is still unworn. Backlash is at around .020".

Must remember your mod, for later.....  :thumbup:

David D
Title: Re: A couple of small roundtoits today.
Post by: Bernd on April 10, 2009, 09:08:53 AM
Websterz,

I have the Grizzly version of that mill. I could never understand why they had the u-joint either. Kind of makes sense now that you mention it.

Nice little projects by the way.

Do you know if your lead screws are 16TPI or 20TPI? There's a mod to change them to 20 TPI from Micro Mark. Check out my website (http://www.kingstonemodeleng.com/MachineShop/minimill/minimill.htm) on the write up I did of the my mini-mill.

Regards,
Bernd
Title: Re: A couple of small roundtoits today.
Post by: Brass_Machine on April 10, 2009, 11:49:48 AM
Nice. Those are 2 I have to do.

Eric
Title: Re: A couple of small roundtoits today.
Post by: Darren on April 10, 2009, 11:51:35 AM
Wonder why they didn't do that in the first place, nice mod  :thumbup:
Title: Re: A couple of small roundtoits today.
Post by: Brass_Machine on April 10, 2009, 04:24:47 PM
... and peening the castleated clutch (I forgot to mention that) I got my backlash down from almost .070 to a much more acceptable .025.

...

Could you explain how you peened the clutch?

Thanks
Eric
Title: Re: A couple of small roundtoits today.
Post by: websterz on April 10, 2009, 07:53:41 PM
... and peening the castleated clutch (I forgot to mention that) I got my backlash down from almost .070 to a much more acceptable .025.

...

Could you explain how you peened the clutch?

Thanks
Eric

Simple really. Pull the handle assembly off the mill and turn it, castle-side up, on a hard surface like the anvil on a bench vise. Take a small ball-pein hammer and a center punch and put a small punch mark in the center of each little square face on the handle portion of the clutch. This swells the face just enough to tighten the fit, a little goes a LONG way. If you get it too tight just tap it gently in place on the mill with a mallet and remove the same way. Rotate to different positions tapping the handle on and off to make sure it is not too tight and you are done. There is a set screw in the center hub of the handle (on mine anyway...YMMV) that presses a spring loaded ball against the shaft, make sure not to lose the ball or spring when you remove the handle assembly.
Title: Re: A couple of small roundtoits today.
Post by: websterz on April 10, 2009, 08:13:20 PM
Websterz,

I have the Grizzly version of that mill. I could never understand why they had the u-joint either. Kind of makes sense now that you mention it.

Nice little projects by the way.

Do you know if your lead screws are 16TPI or 20TPI? There's a mod to change them to 20 TPI from Micro Mark. Check out my website (http://www.kingstonemodeleng.com/MachineShop/minimill/minimill.htm) on the write up I did of the my mini-mill.

Regards,
Bernd

Mine are 16 tpi. I was going to convert to 20 tpi but I plan to add homebrew DRO's so the .0625 thing is not going to be an issue much longer. Aside from a finer feed I personally don't feel the need to change the leadscrews.

In addition to the longer Z rack I also have replacement nuts for the X and Y axis coming. I am going to do the anti-backlash mod to my old ones and keep the new for spares. For those that don't know that mod you take the brass nut and slit 90% of the way thru, starting from the square edge. This leaves a small portion on the radiused end that holds, what is now basically two thinner brass nuts together. Drill a hole thru one side and tap for a setscrew. The pic calls for 10-24 but I prefer 10-32, especially in brass . You tighten the screw to spread the nut apart, tuning out backlash.  It also stops the annoying harmonic whine that seems to plague the X axis.

(http://myweb.cableone.net/websterz/images/shop/adjustable%20nut.jpg)

My electrician was a no-show so I started on another long-overdue project...X axis power feed. I managed to recycle part of the Z axis fine feed mechanism, using the worm-gear end of the old U-join as a coupling to join my cordless drill motor to a spring loaded clutch for disengaging the power feed. The little bit of Chinese steel was already the right OD for the bronze bushing I had in the mounting plate so the part was good for something after all! I tossed the rest in the odd bits box for a rainy day. I will post up pics of the power feed project tomorrow.  :dremel:
Title: Re: A couple of small roundtoits today.
Post by: Stilldrillin on April 11, 2009, 03:32:43 AM
Nice nut mod!  :clap:

Thanks.....  :thumbup:

David D
Title: Re: A couple of small roundtoits today.
Post by: Bernd on April 11, 2009, 11:01:59 AM
I like that mod you did to the nut. Never thought of that when I had mine apart. Looks like the next project after rebuilding/modding the Grizzly lathe will be the mini-mill.

Bernd
Title: Re: A couple of small roundtoits today.
Post by: websterz on April 11, 2009, 03:00:28 PM
I like that mod you did to the nut. Never thought of that when I had mine apart. Looks like the next project after rebuilding/modding the Grizzly lathe will be the mini-mill.

Bernd

Not my idea...I got it on a Grizz mini mill Yahoo group.
Title: Re: A couple of small roundtoits today.
Post by: shoey51 on April 11, 2009, 05:15:44 PM
nice mods there I muct keep them in mind  :thumbup:
Title: Re: A couple of small roundtoits today.
Post by: Stilldrillin on April 12, 2009, 02:25:17 AM
nice mods there I muct keep them in mind  :thumbup:

So very many ideas on here.......  :clap:


So little memory capacity.......  ::)

David D
Title: Re: A couple of small roundtoits today.
Post by: Bernd on April 12, 2009, 08:34:42 AM

So little memory capacity.......  ::)

David D

 :lol:     :lol:
You or the computer?

Bernd
Title: Re: A couple of small roundtoits today.
Post by: Stilldrillin on April 12, 2009, 08:51:59 AM

So little memory capacity.......  ::)

David D

 :lol:     :lol:
You or the computer?

Bernd

Oi Mate!!!

I`ll av you know there`s nowt wrong wi my computer........  :thumbup:

 :lol:   :lol:   :lol:

David D