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Title: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 15, 2015, 05:26:50 AM
Hi Chaps  :wave:


Just thought I would show you lot what I have been up to ,I decided after about 20 years of collecting blacksmithing tools that it was about time I made a start on building a forge  :dremel:

Some of the gear I have collected over the years .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20stuff/P1070955_zps72d67222.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20stuff/P1070955_zps72d67222.jpg.html)


The forge will be located in this corner of the workshop (plate and sheet material will be relocated ) when built .


(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Workshop%20stuff/P1070957_zpsa44acd65.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Workshop%20stuff/P1070957_zpsa44acd65.jpg.html)


The forge stand was made from some scrap I recycled from work , it was an old batter change over station .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1070964_zps61e93368.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1070964_zps61e93368.jpg.html)


This was cut up and welded to make the stand .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1070968_zpsbb6ccc9b.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1070968_zpsbb6ccc9b.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1070975_zpscf1b3bec.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1070975_zpscf1b3bec.jpg.html)


Then the hearth was made up from a bit 3/8 plate .600MM X 600MM is as large a hearth as I can fit in space available .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1070959_zpsd8f879e4.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1070959_zpsd8f879e4.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1070962_zps583a5de4.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1070962_zps583a5de4.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1070979_zps212a36ab.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1070979_zps212a36ab.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1070980_zpsf0a48f16.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1070980_zpsf0a48f16.jpg.html)


Next up the Fire pot , this was made up of 1/2" plate .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1070992_zps9ad8fa73.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1070992_zps9ad8fa73.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1070998_zpsc22df00d.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1070998_zpsc22df00d.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1070999_zpsa7173771.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1070999_zpsa7173771.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080006_zpsf2e5ef97.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080006_zpsf2e5ef97.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080019_zpsdd567a4b.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080019_zpsdd567a4b.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080036_zps5c2843be.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080036_zps5c2843be.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080040_zpsb8832bee.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080040_zpsb8832bee.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080043_zps94ca5bc1.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080043_zps94ca5bc1.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080074_zpsc59ba6cf.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080074_zpsc59ba6cf.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080076_zps674c4f37.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080076_zps674c4f37.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080080_zpsfa9c91ea.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080080_zpsfa9c91ea.jpg.html)


Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: John Rudd on February 15, 2015, 05:34:14 AM
Nice job there Rob, up to your usual standard....  :bow:  :dremel:

What you using for a blower? Your lass's old hair drier ....?lol :lol:
 Think I might have some part used BBQ charcoal you can have..too... :loco:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 15, 2015, 05:54:32 AM
 :lol: :lol: Nope I was hoping  to borrow your hair dryer  John  :poke:


Blower Design  (PREVIEW )  :)

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/blower2_zps046c35d2.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/blower2_zps046c35d2.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/blower1_zps930e23e8.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/blower1_zps930e23e8.jpg.html)


Rob  :dremel:

Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: awemawson on February 15, 2015, 06:26:51 AM
A bit flimsy isn't it Rob - only 1/2" plate for the fire box  :lol:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Arbalist on February 15, 2015, 07:01:59 AM
Half inch plate plate is fairly common on builds over on IForgeIron, some folks prefer 5/8" though!  :D
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 15, 2015, 07:21:09 AM
Half inch plate plate is fairly common on builds over on IForgeIron, some folks prefer 5/8" though!  :D

Did you make yours in 5/8" plate ?   any photos    :poke:

Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 15, 2015, 08:14:33 AM
Next up , the fire pot needs to be fit to the hearth  :dremel:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080090_zpsaeb9fe45.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080090_zpsaeb9fe45.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080095_zpsd3c91df5.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080095_zpsd3c91df5.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080096_zps2db919c9.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080096_zps2db919c9.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080107_zps5baaaffb.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080107_zps5baaaffb.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080111_zpsec6e0900.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080111_zpsec6e0900.jpg.html)

I designed the fixings so that the fire pot could float , to allow for expansion/contraction .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080114_zps04b3c40d.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080114_zps04b3c40d.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080119_zps4a8a8c02.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080119_zps4a8a8c02.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080122_zpsd06247db.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080122_zpsd06247db.jpg.html)


Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Manxmodder on February 15, 2015, 08:17:50 AM
Tremendous stuff Rob,glad to see you back posting projects up here. :thumbup:......OZ.
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 15, 2015, 08:58:35 AM
Hi there OZ  and thanks  :beer:

Next up the blower , I was going to use this motor as I had it on the shelf .(and me being a cheep skate )  :)

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080127_zps9257b716.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080127_zps9257b716.jpg.html)


But down to overwhelming pressure form other interweb users who will remain nameless ( he keeps sheep in East Sussex )  :) ,this being the wrong motor for the job , he being correct of course  :bang:

I splashed out and bought a new motor .  :med:

Blower case is made from a sheet of 1.5mm semi stainless (sounds like bollocks to me ) but that what i was told it was , any way I got a load from a car exhaust factory .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080153_zps55af0986.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080153_zps55af0986.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080155_zps1bfdb3ce.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080155_zps1bfdb3ce.jpg.html)


Machined up a few inserts

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080158_zps9ec6115a.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080158_zps9ec6115a.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080163_zpsded21060.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080163_zpsded21060.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080164_zps482e2cb5.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080164_zps482e2cb5.jpg.html)
 (http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080170_zps3037c0ad.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080170_zps3037c0ad.jpg.html)

 The strip was then rolled in my CNC rollers

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080173_zpsddd24182.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080173_zpsddd24182.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080175_zps9b80ada0.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080175_zps9b80ada0.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080181_zps5026f801.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080181_zps5026f801.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080190_zps1392d3a5.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080190_zps1392d3a5.jpg.html)


Next up I poked a hole in each side .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080194_zpsf863d78b.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080194_zpsf863d78b.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080202_zpsc355f9cd.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080202_zpsc355f9cd.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080205_zps1a6827ec.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080205_zps1a6827ec.jpg.html)

The way I have designed the fan casing I can have the output in any orientation I desire .

Rob
   
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: CrazyModder on February 15, 2015, 09:21:40 AM
Very awesome job, my mate.  :drool:

This is one reason I hate living in a, while large enough, yet still rented house. I can't just go ahead and convert a corner of the garage into a "dirty" place.   :bang:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Manxmodder on February 15, 2015, 10:13:15 AM
 CNC rollers? around the twist brand,by any chance? :lol: :lol: 
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: DavidA on February 15, 2015, 11:19:33 AM
Rob,

Where are you getting you coke from ?  It's never seen around these parts nowadays. It used to be the fuel of choice from out local town gas plant.  But that is long gone.

Dave
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 15, 2015, 11:42:23 AM
Very awesome job, my mate.  :drool:

This is one reason I hate living in a, while large enough, yet still rented house. I can't just go ahead and convert a corner of the garage into a "dirty" place.   :bang:

Thank Crazy  :beer: , keep the faith and pray to the god off tools ,you will get your shop one day  :med:


CNC rollers? around the twist brand,by any chance? :lol: :lol: 

 :lol: :lol: :lol: aye tis round the bend  :loco: :lol: :lol:

Rob,

Where are you getting you coke from ?  It's never seen around these parts nowadays. It used to be the fuel of choice from out local town gas plant.  But that is long gone.

Dave

Hi Dave , Plenty of places round  Newcastle,Hartlepool and Teesside still stock solid fuel  , so its fairly easy to get , If my Cupola works like it should I may buy it by the ton ,get it delivered/stored at work .


 Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: prallplatte on February 15, 2015, 12:43:07 PM
Heavy industries, that rocks! :bugeye:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: dsquire on February 15, 2015, 01:47:39 PM
Hi Rob

Glad to see you back posting again. I see that you have been taking good care of the camera.

Looking forward to watching many more projects.  :D :D

Cheers  :beer:

Don

 
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on February 15, 2015, 03:11:30 PM
Pure art.
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Stilldrillin on February 15, 2015, 03:17:03 PM
It's great to see you doing, and explaining, what you do best,  Rob!

Keep it up, mate......  :thumbup:

David D
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: John Rudd on February 15, 2015, 04:41:51 PM
Quote from: RobWilson
Plenty of places round  Newcastle still stock solid fuel
 Rob
So you still gettin' it off the beach then Rob?...... :D
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 15, 2015, 04:47:40 PM
Thanks Kurt , Don , Steve and David  :beer:


A wee bit more , the intake and motor mount   :dremel: a bit more layout work .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080226_zps7998410f.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080226_zps7998410f.jpg.html)

Roughly cut to shape .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080230_zpsf9876230.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080230_zpsf9876230.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080236_zps0bb07649.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080236_zps0bb07649.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080239_zps348d0b88.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080239_zps348d0b88.jpg.html)


Then slapped onto the lathe for a bit machining .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080248_zps0c44f37b.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080248_zps0c44f37b.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080250_zpsf62742dd.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080250_zpsf62742dd.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080252_zps37421ced.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080252_zps37421ced.jpg.html)

Then much the same for the fan ,

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080269_zpsa6564f76.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080269_zpsa6564f76.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080367_zps50a00d46.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080367_zps50a00d46.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080372_zpsb7ef0fb8.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080372_zpsb7ef0fb8.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080374_zpsa68798d2.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080374_zpsa68798d2.jpg.html)


Thanks again Lads  :beer:

Rob



 


Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: John Rudd on February 15, 2015, 04:50:15 PM
Mm... More nice work Rob, but how did you weld up the fan rotor? Is that MIG or you using a spot welder?

Ah..looking at the pics, looks like MIG....
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 15, 2015, 04:50:49 PM
Quote from: RobWilson
Plenty of places round  Newcastle still stock solid fuel
 Rob
So you still gettin' it off the beach then Rob?...... :D

Well as it happens John   :)

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/20140825_142932_zps3e75e149.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/20140825_142932_zps3e75e149.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/20140825_142921_zps3cd2d95d.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/20140825_142921_zps3cd2d95d.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/20140825_142122_zps0ce607c1.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/20140825_142122_zps0ce607c1.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/20140825_142908_zpsb060bd82.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/20140825_142908_zpsb060bd82.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/20140825_144416_zps0adfaa31.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/20140825_144416_zps0adfaa31.jpg.html)

There be plenty of coal lying on the beach  :thumbup:


Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 15, 2015, 04:52:44 PM
Mm... More nice work Rob, but how did you weld up the fan rotor? Is that MIG or you using a spot welder?

Ah..looking at the pics, looks like MIG....

Yer just plug welded with the MIG John  :zap:

Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: micktoon on February 15, 2015, 05:33:08 PM
Hi Rob , Good to see you posting again , the lighter nights and hopefully better weather are on the way so you will be able to get on with the forge, it will be one hell of a bit of kit once its running...............looks like you have plenty tongs to keep you going anyway  :thumbup:

  Cheers Mick
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: S. Heslop on February 16, 2015, 09:14:00 AM
I'm glad you're back to make me feel inadequate once again. Amazing stuff!
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 16, 2015, 05:13:06 PM
Hi Rob , Good to see you posting again , the lighter nights and hopefully better weather are on the way so you will be able to get on with the forge, it will be one hell of a bit of kit once its running...............looks like you have plenty tongs to keep you going anyway  :thumbup:

  Cheers Mick


Hi Mick , aye hopefully when it warms up I can get back into my stride and really abuse some steel  :dremel:


I'm glad you're back to make me feel inadequate once again. Amazing stuff!


Your welcome  Simon  :lol: :lol:  , I hope you haven't given up on your armour work  :poke:



Rob 
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 16, 2015, 05:22:57 PM
Evening Chaps


The fan boss up next in Three chucking s  one lathe  :coffee:


One , turn the back  :dremel:

 (http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080286_zps1c5cbe8b.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080286_zps1c5cbe8b.jpg.html)



Two , turn front and bore .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080300_zps11a3694b.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080300_zps11a3694b.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080301_zps176d89ab.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080301_zps176d89ab.jpg.html)


Three Key way

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080306_zps33a74fd3.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080306_zps33a74fd3.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080313_zps6fd1998e.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080313_zps6fd1998e.jpg.html)

Drill and tap fan fixings .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080326_zps5cdec200.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080326_zps5cdec200.jpg.html)

Drill tap grub screw
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080329_zpsc58031aa.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080329_zpsc58031aa.jpg.html)


Done  :ddb:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080333_zps59a14ec7.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080333_zps59a14ec7.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080378_zpsd7cb2130.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080378_zpsd7cb2130.jpg.html)

cheers Rob

Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: krv3000 on February 16, 2015, 05:24:33 PM
good gowing rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Joe d on February 16, 2015, 06:27:22 PM
Seems to be up to your usual standard of welding Rob :thumbup:

Looking forward to see what you make once you've got it fired up!

Joe
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Joules on February 17, 2015, 06:13:13 AM
Man, this is one stylish barbecue.  Really nice work Rob.
 
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: lordedmond on February 17, 2015, 06:41:44 AM
Rob

Nice work as per see you still have that shiny filter for your camera :)

Any one question regarding the slotting tool, what is the shape for the leading edge of the bit, I have one of the Hemmingway ones but had little success with key way broaching , same lathe as you show
A pic of the side and front would be very nice


Have you got that cupola working ?

Stuart
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 17, 2015, 01:39:52 PM
Thanks Bob,Joe and Joules  :beer: , it should make a canny sausage cooker  :dremel:

Rob

Nice work as per see you still have that shiny filter for your camera :)

Any one question regarding the slotting tool, what is the shape for the leading edge of the bit, I have one of the Hemmingway ones but had little success with key way broaching , same lathe as you show
A pic of the side and front would be very nice


Have you got that cupola working ?

Stuart



Hi Stuart , here you go mate photos and bobcad  :lol:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1080605_zps7dfjoyii.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1080605_zps7dfjoyii.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1080606_zpssuidexvq.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1080606_zpssuidexvq.jpg.html)

I stick a bit side relief on when slotting stainless  :thumbup:


Cupola , I hope will be fired up this summer , not allot to finish the project  :proj:


What you on with at the moment ?


Cheers Rob   
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 17, 2015, 01:54:24 PM
Evening Chaps  :beer:



All the blower parts ready for assembly .


(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080389_zps4184a53e.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080389_zps4184a53e.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080409_zpsc9cb0e60.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080409_zpsc9cb0e60.jpg.html)
 (http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080410_zpsaf3d3e3c.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080410_zpsaf3d3e3c.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080411_zpsfa1df9e3.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080411_zpsfa1df9e3.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080412_zpsdcb53a5e.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080412_zpsdcb53a5e.jpg.html)


The blower will be mounter aboot here

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080413_zpsbf17e751.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080413_zpsbf17e751.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080414_zps2da61180.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080414_zps2da61180.jpg.html)


Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: lordedmond on February 17, 2015, 02:03:54 PM
Thanks for the info ihad been using a zero front rake in the mistaken belief that it would stop dig in

Thanks again

Well as my mobility has decreased I have got rid of my loco,s and now make stationary engines

At the moment I am on with the Galway none dead centre engine

A few machine mods to make them easier to use sitting down difficult to wangle the handles on crutches  :)

Stuart
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 17, 2015, 02:47:52 PM
Hi Stuart

Sorry to here you had to get rid of your loco  :( , but glad to here your still active in the shop , nowt wrong with a good stationary engine , and the Galway is a fine example  :thumbup:

I hope you will take the time to post a few photos when its done  :poke:  or in progress  :poke: :poke: :)


Just think of the cutter as a single tooth on a broach , good and sharp it takes me less than a minute to cut a 1/4 key  1 1/4 long in steel   :thumbup:



Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: lordedmond on February 17, 2015, 02:57:08 PM
Yes Rob it was quite a wrench to part it was not one but four the two latest ones one was part built , both not even fired but with a boiler maker built boiler with complete paper trail I sold them in exchange for a carrier bag of twenty pound notes looked like a bag of bricks.

The other two were found a good home


As to the Galloway it will be a long time as I am not as quick as I used to be but its getting there that brings me the greatest pleasure

Stuart
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 17, 2015, 03:02:10 PM
Hi Stuart , all in good time  :med:

Good to here you got some cash for them , but like you say when you have put so much into some thing it can be hard to let go  :palm:


Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: S. Heslop on February 17, 2015, 03:36:16 PM
Your welcome  Simon  :lol: :lol:  , I hope you haven't given up on your armour work  :poke:

I still think about doing some more every now and then, but i've been trapped in eternal woodwork for the last year and a bit. I think when the weather gets better I might give it another go.

Got anything you're planning to make when you get your forge running?
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RotarySMP on February 17, 2015, 03:40:01 PM
That is not a blower, its an air raid siren.

That huge iron box going to be the motor mount? for anyone else I would think it is just there as a mock up, but for your your projects I'm not sure.

Mark
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 17, 2015, 03:46:41 PM
Your welcome  Simon  :lol: :lol:  , I hope you haven't given up on your armour work  :poke:

I still think about doing some more every now and then, but i've been trapped in eternal woodwork for the last year and a bit. I think when the weather gets better I might give it another go.

Got anything you're planning to make when you get your forge running?



Hi Simon , I see you have gone to the Brown side lol , yer it would be good to see some more of your metalworking  :thumbup:

As I have not forged a thing in my life  I think I will start easy and make a few hooks for the shop and work up from there ,  :med:   I do have a few tools in mined I would like to forge ,hammers ,  bearing and spring pullers and oddly an a small hand axe .



Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 17, 2015, 03:50:36 PM
That is not a blower, its an air raid siren.

That huge iron box going to be the motor mount? for anyone else I would think it is just there as a mock up, but for your your projects I'm not sure.

Mark

Your right Mark , thats not a blower,,,,,,,,,,,,, this is  :)



(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Cupola/P1070689_zps53bddd7e.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Cupola/P1070689_zps53bddd7e.jpg.html)


What my wee planner block ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ist just for mock up  :dremel:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Brass_Machine on February 17, 2015, 04:45:24 PM
Nice work Rob. Stunning results so far.

 :beer:

We finally got the missus enrolled in a blacksmithing class here.
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on February 17, 2015, 05:21:55 PM
Oh man Rob, that first smaller blower is absolute 24 hour dejavu!!!!

We had our water pump burn out night before, filling the house with smoke, and causing a panicked checking of all electrical appliances and wiring until the culprit was found at 11 PM. I believe the cause was the fact that the temp hit -11F (I'm not going to even bother converting units) with gusts to 50 mph, and a warned wind chill of -32F. I believe the pump outlet froze, and the overtemp switch failed. The start capacitor had oil all over it, too -- haven't done the post mortem fully yet.

Anyway, yesterday I spent all day replacing it -- much of it outside and under the house crawlspace in these temps.

I swear, that motor on that blower of yours is the same one I struggled with! :bugeye:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 18, 2015, 10:46:44 AM
Nice work Rob. Stunning results so far.

 :beer:

We finally got the missus enrolled in a blacksmithing class here.

Cheers Eric  :beer: ,   Nice one  :med:  , is yourlass enjoying the blacksmithing classes ?  maybe she could give me a few pointers  :dremel:



Oh man Rob, that first smaller blower is absolute 24 hour dejavu!!!!

We had our water pump burn out night before, filling the house with smoke, and causing a panicked checking of all electrical appliances and wiring until the culprit was found at 11 PM. I believe the cause was the fact that the temp hit -11F (I'm not going to even bother converting units) with gusts to 50 mph, and a warned wind chill of -32F. I believe the pump outlet froze, and the overtemp switch failed. The start capacitor had oil all over it, too -- haven't done the post mortem fully yet.

Anyway, yesterday I spent all day replacing it -- much of it outside and under the house crawlspace in these temps.

I swear, that motor on that blower of yours is the same one I struggled with! :bugeye:


Its is Steve , I nipped over a nicked your good motor  :lol: :lol: :lol:


-32F whats that in English  :scratch:  ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, DAM COLD !



Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: lordedmond on February 18, 2015, 11:23:42 AM
Oh man Rob, that first smaller blower is absolute 24 hour dejavu!!!!

We had our water pump burn out night before, filling the house with smoke, and causing a panicked checking of all electrical appliances and wiring until the culprit was found at 11 PM. I believe the cause was the fact that the temp hit -11F (I'm not going to even bother converting units) with gusts to 50 mph, and a warned wind chill of -32F. I believe the pump outlet froze, and the overtemp switch failed. The start capacitor had oil all over it, too -- haven't done the post mortem fully yet.

Anyway, yesterday I spent all day replacing it -- much of it outside and under the house crawlspace in these temps.

I swear, that motor on that blower of yours is the same one I struggled with! :bugeye:

Take big care your comment about the cap having oil on it if it's old it could be a PCB compound not good stuff

Stuart
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on February 18, 2015, 09:45:14 PM
Rob, the one was identical to the old one (it served 12 years).
But can I come over there to retrieve the one you nicked? I'll even pay you for it. Just get me outta here!!!!!  :)

Stuart, PCBs --  I had that same thought! We had the doors and a window open in that cold and wind near midnight just to clear the air inside AFAP. Didn't want to breathe the smoke if it was from cap oil.

Soon as I touched the cap, the descriptive printing smeared off, and I realized it was cap oil. Washed hands immediately in soap and some cold bottled water we had (no water pressure, of course). Not much more I could do. Thank you for mentioning it.  :beer:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: lordedmond on February 19, 2015, 03:16:20 AM
Thanks ok I do not want to be a safety nazy but that's one substance not to be messed with

It was probilly ok but you never know , I have come across it once that was in a ioniser power pack for an agglomeration unit for a computor HVAC unit 50 hp fans and 10 units guess we're they were made in the USA by Baltimore and used in the UK

A cap blew up but we were aware that they had PCB in them and then it was on with the marigolds ( live working gloves) but it was dead face shields you name it it cost a arm and a leg to dispose of the bits. The units ran at 25kvdc

Take care Stuart
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: NeoTech on February 19, 2015, 04:21:09 AM
Rob is back! And with that his trademark "over the top" engineering.. that thing is built like a TANK!.. And we love it.  =)
 :D
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 19, 2015, 11:31:28 AM
Rob, the one was identical to the old one (it served 12 years).
But can I come over there to retrieve the one you nicked? I'll even pay you for it. Just get me outta here!!!!!  :)



Any time Steve , a tad warmer here  :)

Rob is back! And with that his trademark "over the top" engineering.. that thing is built like a TANK!.. And we love it.  =)
 :D


Cheers Neo   :lol:  ,,,,,,,,,,,, I take the Victorian approach and build things to last    :D Plus  I personally guarantee it will withstand  thermonuclear war and post apocalypses zombies chewing it to bits  :headbang:



Rob     


Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 19, 2015, 11:48:13 AM
Next up I need a tee piece for the air to get to the bottom of the firepot and to form the ash dump .

A bit tube and some  scrap bar ends.
 
 (http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080433_zps314e5b10.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080433_zps314e5b10.jpg.html)

A wee spin on the lathe .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080438_zpsb41abb3b.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080438_zpsb41abb3b.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080444_zpsaa80ab2d.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080444_zpsaa80ab2d.jpg.html)

Welded together and it will fit here ,well something like this  :dremel:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080461_zps77994877.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080461_zps77994877.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080463_zps56ce4f41.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080463_zps56ce4f41.jpg.html)


Rob



 
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Joe d on February 19, 2015, 12:31:53 PM
Rob... that's way to nice looking to let it get all nasty with coke smuts.... :thumbup:

 just finish it off quick, and post it over here, I'll take care of it for you...

Joe
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Pete W. on February 19, 2015, 12:37:47 PM
Rob's work is so amazing   :bugeye:   :bugeye:   :bugeye: that I have to take a courage pill before I dare post my simple stuff!   :doh:   :doh:   :doh: 
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on February 19, 2015, 01:02:08 PM
I second that, Pete.... :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 21, 2015, 03:20:01 AM
Thanks Joe , Pete and Steve  :beer: :wave:

I need a valve to control the air flow , so I decided to make a butterfly valve  :dremel:

The valve body so far. Machined from a bit mystery steel .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080473_zps0fd9fd8d.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080473_zps0fd9fd8d.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080478_zpsc90799a5.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080478_zpsc90799a5.jpg.html)

Setting the flat in the correct orientation with the PCD of the slots .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080481_zpsa72cc379.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080481_zpsa72cc379.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080482_zpsa39e7d2c.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080482_zpsa39e7d2c.jpg.html)

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080490_zps10ec0098.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080490_zps10ec0098.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080496_zps0d9d0da9.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080496_zps0d9d0da9.jpg.html)


Body done  :dremel:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080497_zpscb3b6c55.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080497_zpscb3b6c55.jpg.html)

And a couple of BRASS bushes (not to be confused with Bronzes as that's quite different   :palm: )   for the spindle were machined up and pressed into the body .


(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080517_zpsec864ff7.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080517_zpsec864ff7.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080520_zpsba3b3180.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080520_zpsba3b3180.jpg.html)

I Nickel  plated the valve body to give it some corrosion resistances  :zap:
Rob 
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: NeoTech on February 21, 2015, 02:09:28 PM
Hmpf, i have Aciera as well.. why doesnt my bits look like that. ;D
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 21, 2015, 03:31:20 PM
Hmpf, i have Aciera as well.. why doesnt my bits look like that. ;D

 :) I am sure it works the same Neo  :poke: :lol:

Decided to do something different today , so I etched up some name plates to go on the forge and blower , smaller two  are to go on some tooling I have made .

 (http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1080619_zpss3if61uv.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1080619_zpss3if61uv.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1080620_zpsp8kzmk6d.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1080620_zpsp8kzmk6d.jpg.html)

Undecided on weather or not to add a colour infill  :scratch:

Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: NeoTech on February 21, 2015, 03:39:34 PM
Etched... how.. when does these etching, plating and all around goodie things come in a project log - more like tutorial ??  :drool:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: awemawson on February 21, 2015, 04:01:13 PM
Very nice Rob, even by your normally excellent standard - you must tell more  :bow:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on February 21, 2015, 04:23:22 PM
Rob, your'e really blurring the line for us between praise and expletives!
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: dsquire on February 21, 2015, 04:55:59 PM
Rob

I'm running out of things to say. I think a nice bright background colour would be nice. Pick a colour and make it you.   :D


Cheers  :beer:

Don
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: micktoon on February 21, 2015, 04:59:57 PM
 Hi Rob , came out really nice, you might as well try one with the inlay , British racing Green maybe ?? or deep racing red if its going on grey machine ?

  Cheers Mick
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 21, 2015, 05:08:54 PM
Cheers Lads  :beer:

When I get things sorted I will do a how to , its just photo etching not at all hard to do  :dremel:

I will pick up some spray paint tomorrow , I only have Black on the shelf , must remember some wet n dry as well  .


Thanks Rob

Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: krv3000 on February 22, 2015, 05:00:57 PM
well dune rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Brass_Machine on February 22, 2015, 11:07:22 PM
I like the etchings. Fantastic stuff... another thing I need to learn to do!
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 23, 2015, 02:47:39 PM
Cheers Bob and Eric  :beer:

Decided to try a Blue infill  :)

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Etching/P1080626_zpsnbjyntgw.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Etching/P1080626_zpsnbjyntgw.jpg.html)

Still room for improvement ,a few things I need to work on ,like were I cut through the plating  :Doh:  , but for now it will do to slap on  the forge  :thumbup:

Rob 
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: CrazyModder on February 23, 2015, 02:58:00 PM
So, which etching method do you use? Is it basically like making PCB boards (shine light through some positive printout, develop with NaOH, then etch with FeCl3 or something like that)?
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: doubleboost on February 23, 2015, 03:01:01 PM
Very nice mate
It would look great in dark green
John
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on February 23, 2015, 03:01:17 PM
That should dress up the forge right smart, Rob!  :thumbup:
 :beer:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 23, 2015, 03:07:18 PM
So, which etching method do you use? Is it basically like making PCB boards (shine light through some positive printout, develop with NaOH, then etch with FeCl3 or something like that)?

Yer , basically the same process as making a PCB board .


Cheers John ,,,,,not green  :palm:


That should dress up the forge right smart, Rob!  :thumbup:
 :beer:




Aye its all aboot the BLING Steve  ,,,,it  wont make the forge work any better  :lol: :lol:

Think I will have ago at some Aluminium plate and Anodize them to see what they look like ,,,,,,,,,,,, may look cooooool  :med:



Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: S. Heslop on February 23, 2015, 03:33:30 PM
That's real swish looking. I'll have to have a try at making some plates myself some time. Is it just steel?
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 23, 2015, 03:47:43 PM
That's real swish looking. I'll have to have a try at making some plates myself some time. Is it just steel?

I used Brass Simon , Steel should work OK , I will be giving Ally and Steel ago .

Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Joules on February 23, 2015, 04:13:46 PM
Could brick acid be used for etching as that is easily available and pretty cheap ?
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: kayzed1 on February 23, 2015, 04:58:20 PM
Very Very nice Rob, but i bet you have bought a new even better camera :lol: cos your stuff looks more betterfull ( is that a word ? ) than ever. :thumbup:
Lyn still trying ...
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on February 23, 2015, 05:09:36 PM
Could brick acid be used for etching as that is easily available and pretty cheap ?

It it's the same as muriatic acid (dilute hydrochloric) here I generally use that for cleaning scale and zinc off of steel, but it seems to leave the steel intact. Maybe because it's diluted, or I didn't notice -- even after a couple of mistaken overnight cleanings in it.

It also seems to work well to clean scale off of brazing and copper based parts that I've tried. But again, i didn't notice it eating away the base metal.

It will really tear into zinc, though!
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 23, 2015, 05:13:51 PM
Could brick acid be used for etching as that is easily available and pretty cheap ?

Hi Joules , I used Ferric Chloride (the same gear used to etch PCBs ) , if you have Brick cleaner (usually Hydrochloric acid) to hand then give it ago , it may work .


Very Very nice Rob, but i bet you have bought a new even better camera :lol: cos your stuff looks more betterfull ( is that a word ? ) than ever. :thumbup:
Lyn still trying ...


Cheers Lyn    :beer:  ,,,,,,,,,,,,, and no same camera ,just better at Photoshop  :)




Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on February 23, 2015, 05:15:06 PM
I forgot -- I have done electrochemical etching of steel  -- to make reed valves for pulsejet engines. Maybe that's a possibility. But i think there'd be some undercutting of the letters if you went anywhere near as deep as Rob has.....
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 23, 2015, 05:27:24 PM
I will look into the use of Hydrochloric acid as an etchant , but I think it needs to be concentrated and will only work on steel , I could be wrong .

Well forget Fanny Cradocks  cook book ,,,,,,,,,,,,,this is a cook book  :zap: ,,,,,,,,,,,one of mine  :)

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Books/P1080629_zpsctkfefuk.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Books/P1080629_zpsctkfefuk.jpg.html)

Rob 
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 23, 2015, 05:30:38 PM
I forgot -- I have done electrochemical etching of steel  -- to make reed valves for pulsejet engines. Maybe that's a possibility. But i think there'd be some undercutting of the letters if you went anywhere near as deep as Rob has.....

Yer Steve , lots of thin steel parts ,like the reed valves of a pulse jet are etched .


Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: doubleboost on February 23, 2015, 05:35:53 PM
Nice book Rob
Be some real healthy concoctions in there
The thing is they worked then & do now
John
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on February 23, 2015, 05:42:30 PM
Rob, do you think electrochemical etching would work for a steel nameplate? You only use salt for that.
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on February 23, 2015, 05:46:21 PM
I learned electrochemical etching from Bruce Simpson a dozen years ago from his old website. I just did a lookup and found he has a new video on Youtube that goes into very good detail about the whole process. Here:

Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 23, 2015, 05:53:21 PM
Nice book Rob
Be some real healthy concoctions in there
The thing is they worked then & do now
John

Nothing but good stuff John , men were men back then  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Rob, do you think electrochemical etching would work for a steel nameplate? You only use salt for that.


Yer ,Steve , there is a professional system for etching say a company brand onto an item that uses similar .


Rob 
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 23, 2015, 05:56:23 PM
something like this 
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Rob

(edit: youtube link embedded)  cheers
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Manxmodder on February 23, 2015, 09:20:16 PM
This video shows a steel belt buckle being salt water/electro etched to good depth of relief.

     


A similar salt electrolytic process is often used by bespoke knife makers to etch a design onto the blade,but they use a cotton pad electrode similar to the vid Rob posted.....OZ.
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on February 24, 2015, 10:56:51 AM
Apologies, Rob for getting things diverted  :offtopic: -- I momentarily got excited about the possibilities after seeing what you'd done.  :palm: I really admire your historical knowledge and approach to making things, including traditional etching and plating. That fantastic forge is really the focus here!!  :beer:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 24, 2015, 12:47:20 PM
Hey no need to apologise Steve ,its all good  :ddb:

              I really don't mined one bit , threads are like conversations that drift and  at the end of the day a few new things have been learned and ideas kicked about   :med:

Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Pete W. on March 04, 2015, 04:59:36 AM
Hi there, Rob,

I hope you're well.

I'm reading this thread with great interest.  I keep thinking, 'Uhmm.  All-in-one tee-bolts with forged ends...... '   :drool:   :drool:   :drool: 
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on March 04, 2015, 01:03:01 PM
Hi Pete  :wave:

Yer doing OK , well had a slight blip the other week and ended up in A&E  :zap: but thats another story   :palm:

So looking to get back on with this this weekend , yes forged TEE bolts would be nice ,along with a good few other bits of tooling i could name . The main ,well one of the main reasons for the
forge ,like the furnace is to recycle material that would normally be thrown out . doing my tree hugging bit  :lol:


Rob 
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: dawesy on March 06, 2015, 10:32:45 AM
Wow amazing work.
I'm sitting here in awe
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on April 12, 2015, 12:58:25 PM
Cheers Lee  :beer:


Thought I would do a bit more to this project today , I fabricated the square to round transition piece for the end of the blower and also welded on a bolt flange .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080787_zpsev9dwfvc.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080787_zpsev9dwfvc.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080795_zpsphgzpaly.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080795_zpsphgzpaly.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080796_zpsrnadkjvz.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080796_zpsrnadkjvz.jpg.html)

I think I will get cracking and finish the air flow valve next  :dremel:


Cheeeeers Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: John Rudd on April 12, 2015, 01:48:07 PM
A cracking bit of tin bashing there Mr. Wilson..... :bow:

Once finished the forge could double up as the family bar b q....... :clap:

Sausages at the ready........ :lol:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: awemawson on April 12, 2015, 02:03:21 PM
A cracking bit of tin bashing there Mr. Wilson..... :bow:

Once finished the forge could double up as the family bar b q....... :clap:

Sausages at the ready........ :lol:

Well mine did for many years - I even put it on locking castors to pull it out of the foundry into the garden. With the blower, and a blow lamp it was the fastest starting bbq I've ever had !!!!
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on April 12, 2015, 09:21:31 PM
I love watching these sculptures come together!  :bow:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: quasi on April 13, 2015, 07:25:11 PM
very impressive work! :clap:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Guv on April 14, 2015, 02:37:16 AM
What a master! Absolutely magnificent
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Zadig on April 14, 2015, 03:49:02 AM
I'd go along with Guv and say "What a master! Absolutely magnificent"
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on April 26, 2015, 02:12:47 PM
Cheers Lads  :beer:

Made a start on the ash dump today ,plasma cut the parts from 6mm and 12 mm stainless . On my state of the art plasma table LOL .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080804_zpsnftawdfm.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080804_zpsnftawdfm.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080808_zpsmvlu6d7v.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080808_zpsmvlu6d7v.jpg.html)

And after a  bit of a clean up . Sorted !

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080822_zpsjg51wxj3.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080822_zpsjg51wxj3.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080819_zpsckwvygjg.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080819_zpsckwvygjg.jpg.html)

Rob




 
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: awemawson on April 26, 2015, 02:25:39 PM
Was that freehand Rob, or did you make a template? I rarely use my Plasma cutter as I make such a bosh of cutting to a line  :scratch:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on April 26, 2015, 02:32:01 PM
Was that freehand Rob, or did you make a template? I rarely use my Plasma cutter as I make such a bosh of cutting to a line  :scratch:


That was all BobCam  Andrew  :)    I did cut a sheet metal template out just to save marking two out .


(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080805_zpsxlk0i57y.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080805_zpsxlk0i57y.jpg.html)

Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: awemawson on April 26, 2015, 02:50:03 PM
OK I'm confused (or so I'm often told  :lol: )

So you drew it in Bocad - do you have a CNC mill to cut it or what? My plasma torch needs quite an offset from the cut line due to the (??18mm) diameter of the torch, so how did you follow a template that appears to be true size?

(Or is the bottle of Merlot I'm drinking interfering with my thought processes  - it's certainly affecting the typing :ddb:  )
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on April 26, 2015, 03:12:49 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol:  I was taking the piss Andrew  BobCam = RobCam ,


 I drew the profile out on a bit sheet metal , then drew round the sheet metal template  with chalk (twice) ,then followed the chalk lines with the plasma cutter free hand .


Rob 
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: awemawson on April 26, 2015, 03:36:26 PM
....and it's that last bit I'm USELESS at    :lol:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on April 26, 2015, 06:17:31 PM
I'd call tha a pretty steady hand!  :clap: :clap: :bow:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: NeoTech on April 27, 2015, 09:16:59 AM
When "Free hand" becomes.. cheating.  :poke:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on May 03, 2015, 12:20:38 PM
Cheers Lads  :beer:

A bit more done today     :)  , worked on the air control valve spindle , this was turned and screw cut , then slapped onto the mill like so .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1010215_zpsuaqfz0fe.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1010215_zpsuaqfz0fe.jpg.html)

Two flats mill on the screwed section .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1010219_zpsrwjlyx7s.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1010219_zpsrwjlyx7s.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1010221_zpsrszlcvm0.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1010221_zpsrszlcvm0.jpg.html)

Then a section of spindle was milled away for the gate /butterfly .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1010232_zpsnnjswpfw.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1010232_zpsnnjswpfw.jpg.html)

And then a couple of hole were poked in .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1010236_zpspwjbw2yi.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1010236_zpspwjbw2yi.jpg.html)


Next a 1 mill thick disc was turned , this needs two slots milled . I used an old bearing race to centre the chuck with the aid of my Zero set indicator (Wilson copy) , just love that tool . :dremel:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1010243_zpsbnmofldj.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1010243_zpsbnmofldj.jpg.html)

Then the disc mounted and milled .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1010248_zpsvfjplewf.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1010248_zpsvfjplewf.jpg.html)


Nearly there .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1010252_zpso868mlw8.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1010252_zpso868mlw8.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1010249_zpsk7rzvvdv.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1010249_zpsk7rzvvdv.jpg.html)


Rob   :coffee:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: krv3000 on May 03, 2015, 12:44:57 PM
hi rob as per brill work
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: doubleboost on May 03, 2015, 01:11:54 PM
Top class Rob as usual :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
Are you going to "aerofoil" the butterfly like we used to on the racing SU carbs  :doh: :doh: :doh:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on May 03, 2015, 01:57:34 PM
Cheers Bob  :beer:


 :lol: :lol: :lol: I have the David Vizard book out John  :lol: :lol: :lol:



Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on May 03, 2015, 08:42:40 PM
The sculptor is back at it!  :bow: :bow: :thumbup: :clap:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: micktoon on May 04, 2015, 03:32:56 AM
Looking good Rob, its got to be close to getting fired up now  :thumbup: :drool:
cheers Mick
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Zadig on May 04, 2015, 03:45:51 AM
Very nice Rob, you are a master of your art.

Nice looking mill too.
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on May 04, 2015, 03:54:14 AM
Thanks Lads  :beer:


Getting close Mick ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,just need to get me finger out and stop pissing about with other distractions in the shop  :palm:



Nice looking mill too.


Aye its not bad  (Aciera F3)  ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, BUT! not as nice as your pair of mills , Deckel's I believe  :drool: 



Rob 
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Zadig on May 04, 2015, 06:09:43 AM
Just seen the reference to David Vizard, that's a name from the past. I think his how to modify your Mini book is still the most thumbed and dilapidated book I have on the shelf.

I've had a couple of Thiels and a polish copy that was nice - all sold on. The two mills I have now and have done for a few years are an Ajax and a Shizuoka CNC. I got tired of having to buy two lots of tooling for both mills, so when the nearly new and well tooled Ajax came about, I decided to take the plunge.
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on May 04, 2015, 09:58:44 AM
Aye Vizard's book is a must for A series engine tuning  :dremel:



Rob 
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on May 04, 2015, 10:07:46 AM
A wee bit more progress this morning , thought I would post now as I need to stop for a curry . :)


Made up a couple of  shouldered washers , cant be doing with way ward springs LOL.

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1010258_zpsfipvqh9u.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1010258_zpsfipvqh9u.jpg.html)

The slot required a tad of hand fitting at the bench .  :dremel:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1010269_zpsoazmihiu.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1010269_zpsoazmihiu.jpg.html)
 (http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1010264_zpsikznohyr.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1010264_zpsikznohyr.jpg.html)


And it all goes together like so .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1010271_zpsv39qgb6c.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1010271_zpsv39qgb6c.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1010272_zps1m6a2huf.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1010272_zps1m6a2huf.jpg.html)


Thats the valve just about done , I have left the other end long and un machined as I am still undecided how I will be controlling the valve.


Next ,welded on the dump flange .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1010278_zps92ni0jee.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1010278_zps92ni0jee.jpg.html)

And this is it so far .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1010285_zpsn0fm5nyl.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1010285_zpsn0fm5nyl.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1010286_zpscrphd4jw.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1010286_zpscrphd4jw.jpg.html)



Cheers Rob    :beer:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Joe d on May 04, 2015, 11:32:26 AM
Looking good Rob  :beer: :beer:

Be  ready for that BBQ party soon!

Cheers,  Joe
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on May 05, 2015, 06:08:57 PM
Besides the other glamorous stuff I forgot for a minute about the custom vise jaws themselves. Good to see them again!  :bow: :bow: :clap:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Zadig on May 06, 2015, 02:57:04 AM
"Glamorous" is the pefect word.

Lovely work. It does have the look of being able to carry out "Uranium Enrichment" mind!
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on May 06, 2015, 02:06:56 PM
Cheers Lads  :beer:

Thanks Joe  :thumbup:


Aye Steve the vice jaws have had some use now  :med: ,


 "Uranium Enrichment"  , ,,,,,,,,,,,,mmm  just enrichment of my life  Zadig  :lol: :lol: :lol:


Rob


Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: ArnieB on May 10, 2015, 07:33:41 AM
Rob

As Zadig and vtstream said "Glamorus " I am in awe.

but sorry I have put a call into the UN, you never know !!!   :lol:

Arnie.
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on May 10, 2015, 08:44:00 AM
 :lol: Cheers Arnie  :beer:


Well a tad more done , Knocked up the blower mounting bracket this morning  :dremel:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080868_zps7h8c5sik.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080868_zps7h8c5sik.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080870_zps26ciurj7.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080870_zps26ciurj7.jpg.html)

This just clips over the bottom rail of the stand , the reason is two fold it  allows a degree of float  and once the forge is pushed back into the corner motor/fan accesses
will be difficult , this way I can just lift the motor/fan assembly out if needed.

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080876_zpsgjgyt75r.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080876_zpsgjgyt75r.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080877_zpslbn2lm9d.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080877_zpslbn2lm9d.jpg.html)
 
Motor attached .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080884_zpsgipeypfm.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080884_zpsgipeypfm.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080885_zpsx6wktgwa.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080885_zpsx6wktgwa.jpg.html)
 (http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080883_zpszy6ov3ur.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080883_zpszy6ov3ur.jpg.html)


And in position .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080886_zps2kpkak1n.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080886_zps2kpkak1n.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080890_zpsdr0sdpud.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080890_zpsdr0sdpud.jpg.html)

Just need a bit pipe work welded up to join the blower to the control valve .


Cheers Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on May 10, 2015, 09:29:12 AM
Rob, really nice simple idea on the removable mount!  :thumbup: :thumbup: :clap:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on May 13, 2015, 04:33:57 PM
Thanks Steve  :beer: I likes simple    :lol:   , I got a wee bit more done tonight ,a tad of  pipe work  :zap:


(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080915_zpsnlxsbpdd.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080915_zpsnlxsbpdd.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080912_zpsyra8qdhh.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080912_zpsyra8qdhh.jpg.html)

Loving my new TIG  ,it welds canny . :)

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080902_zpsbvbns8v5.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080902_zpsbvbns8v5.jpg.html)


Rob


Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: doubleboost on May 13, 2015, 05:12:23 PM
Nice looking weld Mate
I take it you like the R-Tech
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on May 13, 2015, 05:18:12 PM
Aye its canny mate , :thumbup:

 much better with the new touches , I may put the TIG welded in the other shop as I have a 6 meter touch , it will save me having to drown out the fookin cooling fan with hard core house music , tonight I found Motorhead worked well  :lol: :lol: :lol:


Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: doubleboost on May 13, 2015, 05:53:39 PM
lol
The new ones have "fan on demand" :drool: :drool: :drool:
At least you wont leave it turned on by mistake  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: DMIOM on May 14, 2015, 04:02:52 AM
......
Loving my new TIG  ,it welds canny . :)

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080902_zpsbvbns8v5.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080902_zpsbvbns8v5.jpg.html)


Rob

" Loving my new TIG , it welds canny "

I think the man holding the torch has more than a little bit to do with it as well!   :bow:  :bow:  :bow:

Dave
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Arbalist on May 14, 2015, 05:09:41 AM
This is the best made forge I've ever seen, you aren't going to get it dirty are you Rob?  :D
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on May 14, 2015, 08:18:57 AM
Rob, did you bend the pipe yourself?  :bow: :bow: :clap:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on May 14, 2015, 11:59:23 AM

I think the man holding the torch has more than a little bit to do with it as well!   :bow:  :bow:  :bow:

Dave

More like monkey see monkey do Dave  :lol: :lol:  having a half decent welder dose help  :med:


This is the best made forge I've ever seen, you aren't going to get it dirty are you Rob?  :D

Oh yes , black and crispy it will become , I may give into my school  boy patience and whack a bit coke on it this weekend .

Rob, did you bend the pipe yourself?  :bow: :bow: :clap:

Narh way to much hard work bending thin wall stainless tube Steve ,

I recycled some scrap tube , just cut out  sections and re welded them .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080407_zpsf459c2ca.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080407_zpsf459c2ca.jpg.html)

Apart from the motor and a few bolts/screws , all materials have been recycled  :med: 


Rob 
 
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: DMIOM on May 14, 2015, 02:39:13 PM
.....Oh yes , black and crispy it will become , I may give into my school  boy patience and whack a bit coke on it this weekend .
.....

BBQ at Rob's this weekend then?  :drool:

and anyway, even after firing it, Robs "shiny filter" camera probably means even the clinker will look chrome-plated!

Dave
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: John Rudd on May 14, 2015, 03:43:33 PM
.....Oh yes , black and crispy it will become , I may give into my school  boy patience and whack a bit coke on it this weekend .
.....

BBQ at Rob's this weekend then?  :drool:

Aww....bummer can't make it.....my wedding anniversary....35 years....

Mebbe another time....

Rob, hope the maiden firing goes well for ya.... :)
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on May 14, 2015, 10:25:30 PM
Oh I see Rob, you "just" welded thin stainless tubing together so it looks perfect.

You had me scared there for a minute about the crazy skill required to bend wide thin stainess steel tubing into clean opposing 90 degree bends and have them mate up with the flanges in a tight space.

But now I see you just did basically the same thing by butt welding the tubing. Oh uhhhhh, no problem. Piece of cake..... :lol:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on May 16, 2015, 09:53:31 AM
Cheers Lads  :beer:

 :lol: it wont work on coke Dave  :palm:


Happy anniversary John  :clap: :clap: save is some cake  :)  ,,,,,,,,,,,my tenth in a couple of weeks . 


 :lol: :lol: Well there was a tad  of faffing about involved Steve   :dremel:


Well I gave in lads   :Doh:   , dragged the forge  out of the shop and whacked some coke on  ,its  not quite finished but  finished enough for a bit mess about .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080920_zpsglekcetp.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080920_zpsglekcetp.jpg.html)

Blower performed spot on , bags of air .  :coffee:


Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: John Rudd on May 16, 2015, 10:25:10 AM
That looks great Rob! :bow:

Reminds me of metalwork class at school....iirc we made a small garden trowel, a poker for the fire and dome other domestic implements, can't remember ...such a while ago..


So what you going to make either your new forge? New shoes fer pit ponies?  :lol:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on May 16, 2015, 12:32:51 PM
Hey, hotness!!!   :ddb: :ddb: :ddb:

Looks right. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

What's that ball in the front of the coke?  :scratch:

 :bow: :bow: :bow: :beer: :beer: :beer:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: John Rudd on May 16, 2015, 12:47:41 PM
Hey, hotness!!!   :ddb: :ddb:

What's that ball in the front of the coke? 

Baked potato perhaps? Mmmmmmm....nice with butter... :lol:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on May 16, 2015, 12:59:08 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Cheers LADS  :palm:


Thats a lump of PET coke Steve   :thumbup: ,, there is also normal coke and MET coke on the hearth , I was just seeing whats what  :smart:


Its been so long in the build John I have forgotten what I needed the forge for  :lol: :lol: :lol:  I remember now ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,a coat hook  :)


Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on May 16, 2015, 02:16:51 PM
Oh, so like you have 3 kinds of coke readily available over there  :bang:

Ours, apparently is made from platinum:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Foundry-Coke-Melting-Forging-Blacksmith-Use-25-lb-bag-/151664966157

 $68 + $25.78 in shipping from a neighboring state for 25 lb.

Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: tom osselton on May 16, 2015, 06:20:59 PM
So how big would the bag be if I remember coke doesn't weigh much.
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on May 17, 2015, 03:43:00 AM
Oh, so like you have 3 kinds of coke readily available over there  :bang:

Ours, apparently is made from platinum:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Foundry-Coke-Melting-Forging-Blacksmith-Use-25-lb-bag-/151664966157

 $68 + $25.78 in shipping from a neighboring state for 25 lb.


Bloody hell Steve ! ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I pay 6.50 for 25 kg bag  and get this ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,one type is a 50/50 blend of English (MET)and American (PET) coke 

http://www.mgfuels.co.uk/coke-blend.aspx   , do have to collect it (in work time )  :)   

So how big would the bag be if I remember coke doesn't weigh much.

About the size of a builders rubble bag Tom .


Rob



Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Meldonmech on May 17, 2015, 09:15:57 AM
 
  Hi Rob

                     It's working great, did you forge anything while the the forge was nice and hot?

                                                              Cheers David
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on May 17, 2015, 09:27:46 AM
Rob, that's the first time I've ever even seen it available anywhere online, here.

Btus (or calories) are relatively proportional to weight, rather than volume for different fuels.

And diesel fuel is somewhere around $0.40/lb, locally available.
20 lbs of propane costs me $16 and is locally available. So that fuel is  $0.80/lb
Blacksmith coal via ebay, delivered is about $1.00/lb

This dude seems to want to make a killing on the non-existent ebay coke market at about $4.00 a lb. delivered.

It would be cheaper to buy brand new machine parts than cast them with that coke.  :doh:

Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on May 17, 2015, 01:17:16 PM

  Hi Rob

                     It's working great, did you forge anything while the the forge was nice and hot?

                                                              Cheers David


Hi David  , I did not forge a thing as the anvil was not accessible , so I just poked and prodded the coke about and vaporized the end of a bit 20mm bar  :lol:



Rob, that's the first time I've ever even seen it available anywhere online, here.

Btus (or calories) are relatively proportional to weight, rather than volume for different fuels.

And diesel fuel is somewhere around $0.40/lb, locally available.
20 lbs of propane costs me $16 and is locally available. So that fuel is  $0.80/lb
Blacksmith coal via ebay, delivered is about $1.00/lb

This dude seems to want to make a killing on the non-existent ebay coke market at about $4.00 a lb. delivered.

It would be cheaper to buy brand new machine parts than cast them with that coke.  :doh:



Hi Steve ,

Aye at that price for coke , bit of a rip off .Is there no were else that you can by coke form ? 


Rob   
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: drmico60 on May 17, 2015, 01:23:19 PM
Prior to the industrial revolution coke was not available. Charcoal was the preferred fuel for blacksmiths.
Mike
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on May 17, 2015, 01:31:22 PM
Just messed about today again !  :)

I am going make an  extraction hood  for the forge ,so I dug out this heating fan from the loft .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080931_zpsstnyynrh.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080931_zpsstnyynrh.jpg.html)

It shifts a fare old bit of air , only thing is the motor is in the wrong place for my needs . So I removed the motor ,stripped the motor and swapped the field coils around
so the motor would spin in the opposite direction ,and mounted the motor on the other side of the fan case .  :zap:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080936_zpstzqhacly.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080936_zpstzqhacly.jpg.html)


Being on the outside with little air flow for cooling I ran it for a couple of hours to see if it would overheat ,its was fine peak temp was 65c , time to come up with a hood design .  :smart:


Rob 
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: krv3000 on May 17, 2015, 03:02:27 PM
spot on rob brill as per  :ddb:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on May 17, 2015, 07:56:43 PM
No Rob, no furnace coke available here that I know of. In fact if any U.S. member or visitor reading this knows of a place within 200 miess of southern Vermont where furnace coke can be bought, I'd appreciate the info.

Prior to the industrial revolution coke was not available. Charcoal was the preferred fuel for blacksmiths.
Mike

Yup, there are even wood forges now (really charcoal forges which are making the charcoal from the wood simultaneously). My own interest in coke comes from wanting to run a cupola for melting iron, and the failure of my sawed off cupola on charcoal: http://madmodder.net/index.php/topic,8574.0.htm and http://madmodder.net/index.php/topic,8484.0.html (I think the problem with the furnace was that charcoal wasn't dense enough for that particular sawed off version, so I've always wondered what would have happened with coke.)
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RussellT on May 18, 2015, 04:30:57 AM
Hi Rob

How much hotter do you think the fan motor will get when you raise the ambient temperature by quite a lot?

Russell
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: awemawson on May 18, 2015, 04:48:43 AM
When I had a similar potential fan over heating issue when my oil fired furnace was set up permanently at my last place, I introduced  an elbow into the air flow diverting air through the motor via a 28 mm copper pipe. It kept the motor alive for many a year  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on May 18, 2015, 05:38:57 AM
Hi Rob

How much hotter do you think the fan motor will get when you raise the ambient temperature by quite a lot?

Russell

what do you call  quite allot Russel ?

Rob

Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RussellT on May 18, 2015, 06:16:44 AM
Now you've got me.  I said "quite a lot" because I don't really know. :scratch:

I would have thought the ambient temperature above a forge could easily reach 80 deg C, depending on stuff like radiant heat from the hood or duct, conducted heat from duct, airflow over the forge, speed of extractor fan etc.

I'm sure you've got all that stuff worked out, (you normally have), but I'm not sure you can rely on the motor not getting hotter than 65 deg. 

Russell

Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on May 18, 2015, 09:04:45 AM
I ran a similar external motor exhaust extractor on a 125,000 Btu/hr output wood chip fired furnace with 300 F exhaust temps with no problems.

The fan isn't necessarily located close to or directly over the forge, depending on ductwork from the fan to the hood.

Even if situated directly above, the fan is protected from the radiant heat by the hood and with exhaust extraction, the hot air is going up the duct, not being dispersed around the fan motor.

A large amount of cold air is being mixed with the hot in the hood and duct, as well.

General air circulation in the area around the outside of the duct and hood is very good because of the draw. so external surfaces don't get as hot as might be imagined.

Despite the fact that you can get steel and iron to fusion temps in the forge embers, the total heat output of a forge like this is pretty modest, and also intermittent. Running the forge blower underneath continuously is wasteful of fuel. Usually air is turned down and the fire banked unless actively heating something.

I don't think there's going to be a problem.

(I think I see part of the cause of the confusion --  please note that the motor has been moved out of the venturi, and is external to the intake. This is what makes it an exhaust extractor instead of a blower.)
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on May 18, 2015, 11:09:54 AM
What Steve said Russell  :thumbup:

Thanks for penning that reply Steve   :clap: :clap: :clap: .


 At the moment I am still undecided on the ducting arrangement , Mr Hermetic  (Phil)  put using a venturi type hood design into the mix . which possibly if room allows (I am limited to 8 ft  ish ) maybe a better course of action , the fan then  could run/function normally ,no Wilson mods lol.

I also should point out I have 5 of these fans to play with , and if I was to come across a better motor I would  change it . all that could be done at a latter date . 

Another possibility Andrew  :thumbup: 


Cheers Lads ,Rob 
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: John Rudd on May 18, 2015, 11:14:32 AM
You could always remotely couple the fan and motor using a pulley v belt drive assembly, but then it starts to grow arms and legs...but least ways the motor is out of the 'Red Area' as Dale would say...... :lol:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RussellT on May 19, 2015, 03:43:14 AM
OK.  I'm convinced - by the pile of spare motors at least. :lol:

Russell
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on May 24, 2015, 03:56:51 PM
Well I have decided that I will not be using that there fan ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,its just to domestic ,,,not Wilson enough (over kill ) ,,,,,,so wile I wait for my new motor to arrive ,I thought I would make a heavy duty stand for my #25 Record vice , used up some 60 x 5 hydraulic tube I had lying about .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080942_zpsc0nq6ik8.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080942_zpsc0nq6ik8.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080945_zpstvjvoqbx.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080945_zpstvjvoqbx.jpg.html)

Rob 
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: micktoon on May 24, 2015, 07:02:57 PM
Hi Rob, looks nice and robust  :thumbup:, just make sure you dont pull it over on top of you as it will take lifting gear to rescue you lol Are you going to use this vice set up next to the forge ?

 Cheers Mick
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on May 25, 2015, 02:17:31 AM
Aye it weights a bit  Mick  :lol:  , I dont know I may rig up this large leg vice .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Blacksmithing%20Tools/P1060879_zpslw9eqw8e.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Blacksmithing%20Tools/P1060879_zpslw9eqw8e.jpg.html)

I mainly just wanted a vice I could drag out side and have good 360 deg access to what ever  :dremel:  ,,,,,,,,,,now what to do with the other ten vices I own  :palm:

Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on May 25, 2015, 01:08:36 PM
Yer just asking fer it this time Rob:

yup, yer a man of many vises!  :) :wack: :wack: :wack:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: awemawson on May 25, 2015, 02:20:53 PM
No Steve, he'd a Brit so it's many VICES  :lol:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on May 25, 2015, 03:05:54 PM
Yer just asking fer it this time Rob:

yup, yer a man of many vises!  :) :wack: :wack: :wack:


 :lol: :lol: :lol:  TWAT !  you got me   :Doh:   ,,,,,,,,,Mined you Steve ,,,,,,,Andrew dose have a point  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

One day  :loco:


Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: krv3000 on May 25, 2015, 04:57:00 PM
not only dus he have a hammer fetish by the look of things he has one for vices as well
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on May 25, 2015, 05:02:32 PM
Agreed Bob, anybody with ten vises is really screwed up.

 :ddb:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: mattinker on May 25, 2015, 05:07:22 PM
I have at least ten vices! Three of them are leg vices, another three are tool makers vices!

I should qualify! Regards, Matthew.
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on May 25, 2015, 05:10:24 PM
Hmmmm. I might just qualify, too....4 drill press vises alone, 3 mill, 4 bench, etc.
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: krv3000 on May 25, 2015, 05:20:03 PM
well im prawd to say I have a D.T.I fetish 
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on May 31, 2015, 12:29:23 PM
A wee diversion form the forge , I need a pair of ramps for work so I knocked these up  :zap:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1080950_zpsyzdeh6aa.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1080950_zpsyzdeh6aa.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1080951_zpsfkua5fua.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1080951_zpsfkua5fua.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1080952_zpsjyasu4je.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1080952_zpsjyasu4je.jpg.html)

3ft x 1ft x6"  ,made from 1/8 plate    ,,,,,,,,,,, good for 50 ton the pair  :D


Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: awemawson on May 31, 2015, 12:59:41 PM
Nice Rob, they look good and stout  :clap:

Are they for permanent installation or will they be moved about? If the later I suggest a couple of finger recesses or you'll never get a grip on them to pick them up
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on May 31, 2015, 01:10:22 PM
Nice Rob, they look good and stout  :clap:

Are they for permanent installation or will they be moved about? If the later I suggest a couple of finger recesses or you'll never get a grip on them to pick them up

"Never"     !   ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, funny that  Andrew :scratch: ,I have been moving them about all day  , they are easy enough to get hold of  :thumbup: 

Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: modeldozer on May 31, 2015, 01:42:28 PM
Very nicely done.   :clap: :clap: :clap: :bow: :bow: :bow:

 :beer:
Abraham
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: awemawson on May 31, 2015, 01:49:33 PM
""Never"     !   ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, funny that  Andrew :scratch: ,I have been moving them about all day  , they are easy enough to get hold of  :thumbup:  "

Wait 'til they're wet and oily  :lol:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on May 31, 2015, 02:52:14 PM

Wait 'til they're wet and oily  :lol:

Are we talking about my ramps or your pig here Andrew  :lol: :lol:

Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: awemawson on May 31, 2015, 03:51:58 PM
Pigs are impossible to catch and pick up when they are dry and clean, never mind wet and oily  :bugeye:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on May 31, 2015, 08:44:47 PM
Really nice, Rob!  :thumbup:  :beer:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: micktoon on June 01, 2015, 04:17:29 AM
Hi Rob , nice job there, they look like tey will stand the test of time ok. Did you use your new plasma cutter to cut the parts out ? Does it leave good enough finish to weld without much grinding ?
 Cheers Mick
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on June 01, 2015, 10:56:53 AM
Pigs are impossible to catch and pick up when they are dry and clean, never mind wet and oily  :bugeye:

Maybe its time you got some handles fit Andrew  :lol: :lol:

Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on June 01, 2015, 11:02:02 AM
Thanks Abraham and  Steve  :beer: 

Used the ramps today at work , just the job, actually the muts nuts ,,,,,,,,,,, so I will have them independently load tested tomorrow for insurance purposes    .

Hi Mick , yerh used the plasma ,,,,,,,,,,,,,it worked a charm , only one flaw ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I keep setting things on fire with it  :lol:  , used it to cut through two 3mm sheets at the same time , no grinding (well if it was getting TIG welded I would ) just knock the bit slag off and stick it together   :dremel:



Cheers Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Manxmodder on June 01, 2015, 11:32:00 AM
"Used the ramps today at work , just the job, actually the muts nuts"

It's all down hill from here on......OZ.  :) :)
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: awemawson on June 01, 2015, 12:06:02 PM
Thanks Abraham and  Steve  :beer: 

Used the ramps today at work , just the job, actually the muts nuts ,,,,,,,,,,, so I will have them independently load tested tomorrow for insurance purposes    .


Cheers Rob

How do they do that Rob, just roll a loaded vehicle up or is it more subtle than that - maybe a quash test in a press?
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on June 01, 2015, 12:18:58 PM
Hi Andrew

Just loaded up in a large press  :thumbup: I had 30 (real) tones on each one of them in my shop press , I only need 20 tone max on each .


Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: doubleboost on June 01, 2015, 12:41:54 PM
Very nice Rob    :drool: :drool: :drool:
The plasma saves loads of time (and cutting discs) :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:
John
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on October 24, 2015, 01:59:35 PM
Hi Chaps   :wave:


Decided to do a bit work on the forge today , welded some very old and rusty steel onto the stand for feet .


(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100460_zpsf51oe6oq.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100460_zpsf51oe6oq.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100461_zpsbz5eppz3.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100461_zpsbz5eppz3.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100465_zpshopfhzfq.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100465_zpshopfhzfq.jpg.html)

and decided to cut a section of the hearth away  .

before .


 (http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1070984_zpsccb571e6.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1070984_zpsccb571e6.jpg.html)


after 

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100473_zpsrainui0d.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100473_zpsrainui0d.jpg.html)


First time I have used the yard vice ,


(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1080945_zpstvjvoqbx.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1080945_zpstvjvoqbx.jpg.html)




 much better grinding out side , needs two mods , it's about 2" to high and it needs somewhere to hand a grinder   :scratch:


Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on October 24, 2015, 09:51:03 PM
Hey Rob! :wave:

I need one of them outdoor vices! :thumbup:

Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Pete49 on October 24, 2015, 09:56:13 PM
+1 for the yard vice. Looks like another project added to the list, though it might make the top of it.
Pete
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on October 25, 2015, 10:01:07 AM
Cheers Steve and Pete  :beer:

A yard vice is a must  :dremel:

Got a tad more done today ,was going great guns up until I pulled a muscle in my back  :( , so I will post this for now   , first job this morning was to cut down the yard vice stand

by 2" and add two bits of flat bar so that I can hang gear from them .

 (http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100476_zps51vjxl3x.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100476_zps51vjxl3x.jpg.html)
 (http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100483_zpsgszinhzc.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100483_zpsgszinhzc.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100479_zpsnjk9v4bb.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100479_zpsnjk9v4bb.jpg.html)

Then another job I have been meaning to do is add a hook to the 8" grinder , this was made from a bolt .

 (http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100488_zps9mhawys2.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100488_zps9mhawys2.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100489_zps0i23w8um.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100489_zps0i23w8um.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100490_zpssf4g9hzr.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100490_zpssf4g9hzr.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100492_zpswzzl3jef.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100492_zpswzzl3jef.jpg.html)


That done I could get back on with the forge , I am using up my old rusty stock on this project , this was cleaned up with the above grinder .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100494_zpshqkakl1i.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100494_zpshqkakl1i.jpg.html)


and cut and welded into this .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100495_zpsrrjetyya.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100495_zpsrrjetyya.jpg.html)


this being to support the hood and back panel .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100500_zps6wqmbw5d.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100500_zps6wqmbw5d.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100502_zpsalwo3xyq.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100502_zpsalwo3xyq.jpg.html)

deciding whether to bolt or weld it to the hearth .


cheers Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: AdeV on October 25, 2015, 02:44:57 PM
Tidy work as always there Rob! Shame you cut that vice down by 2" - I reckon I'm about 2" taller than you, it'd have fit me perfectly!  :lol:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on October 25, 2015, 02:54:56 PM
I like it! :thumbup:

Rob, does yer back get to vote on bolted vs welded?  :poke:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: krv3000 on October 25, 2015, 05:03:57 PM
as per rob brill
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Joe d on October 25, 2015, 05:51:02 PM
Looks good, Rob  :thumbup:

What projects have you got lined up to make with it?

Joe
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on October 28, 2015, 11:24:44 AM
Tidy work as always there Rob! Shame you cut that vice down by 2" - I reckon I'm about 2" taller than you, it'd have fit me perfectly!  :lol:

Aye its nearly  about the right size for you Ade ,,,,,,,,,,probably would need 2" adding  :lol:


I like it! :thumbup:

Rob, does yer back get to vote on bolted vs welded?  :poke:



 :lol: :lol: was planning  on welding my back Steve  :)


as per rob brill



 :beer: Cheers Bob  :beer:



Looks good, Rob  :thumbup:

What projects have you got lined up to make with it?

Joe



The truth Joe ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I have no idea  :palm: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe some tools and I was looking at some ye oldie locks in a museum that looked like they maybe interesting to have a go at .

But it will make a canny pie warmer when done  :lol:


Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Joe d on October 28, 2015, 12:47:34 PM
Pork pies.... sausages... apple cider... I'm in! :thumbup:

Call me when they're ready!

Joe
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: NeoTech on October 28, 2015, 09:45:20 PM
So im starting to get curious what will come out of that thing down the road. =)
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: joshagrady on October 29, 2015, 05:39:49 AM
Hi Chaps   :wave:


Decided to do a bit work on the forge today , welded some very old and rusty steel onto the stand for feet .



 (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100460_zpsf51oe6oq.jpg.html)

Even Rob's rusty steel is shiny.

Brilliant, as usual.
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on November 01, 2015, 01:25:14 PM
Cheers Lads  :beer:




Done a bit more work on the forge today , still pondering the hood so decided to make a work rest to support long pieces  .I did not want a floor stand , the floor is cluttered enough at time , I wanted something that will work in any position and stow away when not needed . 


The Wilson rest  :)

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100511_zpsjc528ahf.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100511_zpsjc528ahf.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100515_zpsucy5hgfi.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100515_zpsucy5hgfi.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100517_zpshdq5k4bs.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100517_zpshdq5k4bs.jpg.html)


The long tube will have a tee bar thing fitted to support the work and the other end will be welded to the leg of the forge . 


Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: DMIOM on November 01, 2015, 06:47:38 PM
you sure this isn't a bracket for an anglepoise or Ikea work light?
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Brass_Machine on November 02, 2015, 08:38:56 AM
Wow. Nice looking work there Rob. I have to build my wife a forge... been studying this build!

Eric
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on November 04, 2015, 03:43:22 PM
Thanks Eric ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,is yourlass still enjoying forging ?  :thumbup:

Got a wee bit more done tonight , fired up the hot snot gun for steel and a fixed the arm .


(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100533_zpsx2oat14y.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100533_zpsx2oat14y.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100535_zps2axfsle0.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100535_zps2axfsle0.jpg.html)

Made the tee bar and height adjuster doodad ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,all for the closest materials at  hand .  

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100539_zpsg69th0iy.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100539_zpsg69th0iy.jpg.html)


fits like so   :dremel:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100541_zpsrfvodzng.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100541_zpsrfvodzng.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100543_zps7pfezpyx.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100543_zps7pfezpyx.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100542_zps6ycaure5.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100542_zps6ycaure5.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100546_zpsyht5gxc4.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100546_zpsyht5gxc4.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100545_zps6jtwt5hx.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100545_zps6jtwt5hx.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100547_zpsplfxrf38.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100547_zpsplfxrf38.jpg.html)


The Wilson support arm   :loco:


Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Joe d on November 04, 2015, 05:33:03 PM
That's pretty damned posh... the Council will be raising your rates  :)

Nice work (as always)

Joe
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: rotorhead on November 04, 2015, 06:11:32 PM
Hi Rob,

Just come across this thread, kept me awake and engaged for quite a while.

Your workmanship is really artistic, but where's the bloody outtakes???

Do we have to wait till the end, like John makes us... :)
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on November 06, 2015, 10:05:43 AM
but where's the bloody outtakes???

Do we have to wait till the end, like John makes us... :)

You lost me there Chris  :scratch:

Cheers Joe  :beer: , dont get me started on rates ,,,,,,,,,,,,, employed caucasian atheist  male  ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,that me shagged  :lol:



Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Brass_Machine on November 06, 2015, 11:32:12 AM
I like the extendable arm Rob. Looks good. That forge is going to turn into a heirloom piece.


Thanks Eric ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,is yourlass still enjoying forging ?  :thumbup:


That she is. She just finished up another class. Got her registered for 2 more, including a workshop on building a gas forge and intermediate joinery. Trying to get her into a Damascus knife making class. Waiting for them to offer another...
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Pete49 on November 06, 2015, 10:43:55 PM
I hope you're not going to actually use that work of art Rob or even put dirty coke or fire in that :) :D
Pete
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Andrew Wildman on November 07, 2015, 04:11:32 AM
 Rob, looks good. Is the double joint in the arm to allow it to fully fold up or was it just a more convenient way of making the joint?
Looking forward to the next installment!
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on November 07, 2015, 03:30:39 PM
I like the extendable arm Rob. Looks good. That forge is going to turn into a heirloom piece.


Thanks Eric ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,is yourlass still enjoying forging ?  :thumbup:


That she is. She just finished up another class. Got her registered for 2 more, including a workshop on building a gas forge and intermediate joinery. Trying to get her into a Damascus knife making class. Waiting for them to offer another...


I wish there were classes like that near me Eric ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Damascus /pattern welded steel is something I would also like to try my hand at   :dremel:  , what classes are you enrolled in ? 

needle point and baking  :)


I hope you're not going to actually use that work of art Rob or even put dirty coke or fire in that :) :D
Pete

Its already a bit black and crispy Pete ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, had some coke going a few weeks ago  :thumbup:


Rob, looks good. Is the double joint in the arm to allow it to fully fold up or was it just a more convenient way of making the joint?
Looking forward to the next installment!

Hi Andrew , you got it the double joint makes it fold flat and gives a lot more range over its 30" reach . Here is a better shot of it folded out of the way .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100550_zpsg2ngrixb.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100550_zpsg2ngrixb.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100554_zpsf7fy2caw.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100554_zpsf7fy2caw.jpg.html)




Decided to clean the shop up a bit today and make a lever for the butterfly valve .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100559_zpsl70oom0c.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100559_zpsl70oom0c.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100567_zpsk5qcduzx.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100567_zpsk5qcduzx.jpg.html)


Rob


 
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: rotorhead on November 07, 2015, 08:22:45 PM
"Your workmanship is really artistic, but where's the bloody outtakes???

Do we have to wait till the end, like John makes us... :)"

Sorry about that Rob, it must be my Lincolnshire humor gone ary...
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Brass_Machine on November 09, 2015, 07:55:57 AM
...
I wish there were classes like that near me Eric ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Damascus /pattern welded steel is something I would also like to try my hand at   :dremel:  , what classes are you enrolled in ? 

needle point and baking  :)


Yeah... You would think right? Her and I have had this discussion because they have a light metals class or two (jewelry making) that I wouldn't mind taking.  :lol:

One thing I have learned about a lady blacksmith. Don't argue with her... she carries a hammer.
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on November 14, 2015, 12:04:27 PM
Evening Chaps  :wave:



A bit more progress today , made the scream if you want to go faster lever   :ddb:


(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100568_zpszdbgdwzj.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100568_zpszdbgdwzj.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100570_zpsdpvhdvme.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100570_zpsdpvhdvme.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100581_zpsxc6cfakt.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100581_zpsxc6cfakt.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100588_zpsdxchwdim.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100588_zpsdxchwdim.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100583_zpsjteqexl0.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100583_zpsjteqexl0.jpg.html)

Tomorrow the hood   :scratch:



Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on November 15, 2015, 01:12:45 PM
And a wee bit more done  :dremel:

I remembered that I had not finished the motor/fan mount , so added a cross member and a rubber foot . 

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100596_zps5beyc5kl.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100596_zps5beyc5kl.jpg.html)

The rubber foot just sits on the cross member so the unit is free to float  . 


Then I decided I would do something with the ash dump , I cut a section out of the tube and  re welded it ,I also turned down the flange . 

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100606_zpsv1ivllpm.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100606_zpsv1ivllpm.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100609_zpsccktkr9k.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100609_zpsccktkr9k.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100611_zpsectedurd.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100611_zpsectedurd.jpg.html)


With the end being angled forwards it gives more room for a bucket , just need to come up with a flappy thing to cover the end .   :scratch:


Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Joe d on November 15, 2015, 04:58:16 PM
Looking good there, Rob.  :beer:

Pretty soon you will run out of parts to make and improvements to apply, and will
actually have to FORGE something :whip:

Cheers, Joe
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: krv3000 on November 15, 2015, 05:42:18 PM
as per rob brill work as per  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: micktoon on November 15, 2015, 05:47:23 PM
Looking nice Rob  :thumbup: , it won't be long until she is fired up now I hope   :drool:

  Cheers Mick
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: awemawson on November 15, 2015, 06:03:46 PM
No no no Mick ..... It's a display piece  :lol:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Manxmodder on November 15, 2015, 06:05:03 PM
It's the genuine article  :clap: .I don't think anyone could honestly acuse Rob of forgery
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: JD on November 16, 2015, 05:24:17 AM
Neighbors happy with horses getting shod  :lol:  :lol: plenty of manure for you roses :clap:
JD
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: AdeV on November 16, 2015, 11:26:11 AM
I don't think anyone could honestly acuse Rob of forgery

Groan.....  :palm:

 :lol:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on November 16, 2015, 11:37:43 AM
Looking good there, Rob.  :beer:

Pretty soon you will run out of parts to make and improvements to apply, and will
actually have to FORGE something :whip:

Cheers, Joe

Aye one day I will have to stop messing with it Joe  :palm:

as per rob brill work as per  :thumbup:

Cheers Bob  :beer:


Looking nice Rob  :thumbup: , it won't be long until she is fired up now I hope   :drool:

  Cheers Mick

Thanks Mick , aye not long ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I hope !


No no no Mick ..... It's a display piece  :lol:


Nope more like an IV stand for a welder Andrew 

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100624_zpswdnvadgm.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100624_zpswdnvadgm.jpg.html)

Shame I will have to move it  :bang:


It's the genuine article  :clap: .I don't think anyone could honestly acuse Rob of forgery


 :lol: :lol: :lol: dont be giving up your day job  :lol:


Neighbors happy with horses getting shod  :lol:  :lol: plenty of manure for you roses :clap:
JD

you will not get me anywhere near one of those things , when on one ONCE ! ,      :loco:


I don't think anyone could honestly acuse Rob of forgery

Groan.....  :palm:

 :lol:

 :lol: :lol: :lol:


Rob







Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on November 16, 2015, 11:45:29 AM
Well I made some progress with the ash dump flap today  :dremel:


I reused  the material from the not so good flap , yes I could just cut a new bit but why waste materials .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100614_zpsv5ragzjb.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100614_zpsv5ragzjb.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100613_zpscjo3jwnt.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100613_zpscjo3jwnt.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100622_zps1tatp4lg.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100622_zps1tatp4lg.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100626_zpsczgs1u1u.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100626_zpsczgs1u1u.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100627_zpsco42n7wp.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100627_zpsco42n7wp.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100634_zpsohh3fhok.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100634_zpsohh3fhok.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100636_zpsg60xwd4h.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100636_zpsg60xwd4h.jpg.html)

Just need to stick a handle /lever on it  :dremel: , now its pie and chips time . ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,or maybe toad in the hole  :scratch:


Cheers Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on November 16, 2015, 03:50:39 PM
I decided to have  toad in the hole for tea  :D


Bent up a handle from 20mm bar  ,two actually did not like the first design .


Bobs bending pins (made about 20 years ago )  :dremel:


(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100641_zpsmofzf5ll.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100641_zpsmofzf5ll.jpg.html)


First handle ,the  one I did not like the look of it for this job .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100643_zpsdaophjp6.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100643_zpsdaophjp6.jpg.html)


so I bent up another on other end of the bar .


 (http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100644_zpsxle7smmq.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100644_zpsxle7smmq.jpg.html)

and welded to flap .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100646_zpszi6uv5u2.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100646_zpszi6uv5u2.jpg.html)

A bit clean up here and there and thats that for the bottom part , hood tomorrow   :ddb:


Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on November 16, 2015, 07:56:13 PM
Nice handle Robbie!  :beer:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on November 17, 2015, 11:16:05 AM
Cheers Steve  :wave:  , have made any progress with your lathe build ? 

Well today did not go to plan , I was planning on doing the hood today but it has rained hard all day , I have to cut the 8x4 sheet up outside .  :Doh:


So I stripped the forge and cleaned up the stand ,finished the welding and removed the weld splatter .

 (http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100653_zpsc3wsh4vp.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100653_zpsc3wsh4vp.jpg.html)


And a group shot of parts made so far

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100661_zpsebcasnaa.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100661_zpsebcasnaa.jpg.html)


Hopefully the weather at the weekend will be better .


Rob   :beer:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on November 17, 2015, 07:49:09 PM
Pretty!  :drool:

Rob I have not done a thing on the lathe since the weather warmed up.  :palm: No metal at all. Been cutting wood and building bows and arrows and target shooting. Once snow flies I'll be back indoors.
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on November 22, 2015, 12:22:49 PM
Hi Steve , looking forward to seeing you back on with  your lathe build  :thumbup: , its been snowing here  :(


Well I managed to get a wee bit of work done on the forge hood , I am using 1mm galvanized sheet steel to make the hood .


My state of the art sheet metal folder ,  :lol:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100677_zpszttiollj.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100677_zpszttiollj.jpg.html)



A length of 50x50 and 60x25 flat bar LOL , does the job one day I may make something better .  :dremel:

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100675_zpslwpsb61e.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100675_zpslwpsb61e.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100678_zpsdrwlszjb.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100678_zpsdrwlszjb.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100680_zps5u1gnvpr.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100680_zps5u1gnvpr.jpg.html)

And thats as far as I got this afternoon , just tack welded with the old MIG .  :zap: I will seam welded it when I get the last section  in .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100684_zpsyrw10eno.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100684_zpsyrw10eno.jpg.html)


Cheers Rob  :beer:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: hermetic on November 22, 2015, 02:27:41 PM
Nice hood Rob, and very authentic looking too! I have a very similar metal folder to you, I have a bench about 6ft long wirh a similar vice at either end, and when I fitted the vices I put a bit of angle iron in both to make sure they were in line. Now I trap the steel I want to bend between two pieces of angle iron, and fold away! You can use a pair of mole grips to give extra clamping force if you don't need all the length.
Phil
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on November 22, 2015, 02:34:51 PM
Nice hood Rob, and very authentic looking too! I have a very similar metal folder to you, I have a bench about 6ft long wirh a similar vice at either end, and when I fitted the vices I put a bit of angle iron in both to make sure they were in line. Now I trap the steel I want to bend between two pieces of angle iron, and fold away! You can use a pair of mole grips to give extra clamping force if you don't need all the length.
Phil

Hi Phil

I was just thinking about adding a folder attachment to the welding bench , so many projects lol , I am still undecided on the hood extraction . I may go for your suggestion of a venturi type hood .


Cheers Rob   
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on November 22, 2015, 05:54:18 PM
Rob, seeing you working happily on the forge gets me wanting to work metal again! You're doing a great job (as always)! :clap: :bow:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: krv3000 on November 22, 2015, 06:31:40 PM
brill as per rob  :D
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on November 24, 2015, 02:46:49 PM
Cheers Bob  :beer:

Rob, seeing you working happily on the forge gets me wanting to work metal again! You're doing a great job (as always)! :clap: :bow:

Hi Steve ,I must say it's good to be back in the shop torturing defenceless lumps of steel    :dremel:

A wee update , tonight I made the hood corner panel .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100687_zps3msbsvb2.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100687_zps3msbsvb2.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100686_zpsunywklzo.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100686_zpsunywklzo.jpg.html)

Slowly getting there  :)


Rob

Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: millwright on November 24, 2015, 03:28:54 PM
Aye Rob its a canny looking barbie  is that, the steaks will be done in no time at all with the blower on.
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: doubleboost on November 24, 2015, 04:31:53 PM
It is starting to get a bit of size about it now Mate :drool: :drool: :drool:
Be heavy as well  :bugeye: :bugeye: :bugeye:
John
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: AdeV on November 24, 2015, 06:39:49 PM

It is starting to get a bit of size about it now Mate :drool: :drool: :drool:


...said the actress to the bishop!  :lol: (sorry)
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Pete W. on November 25, 2015, 08:21:55 AM
Hi there, all,

I'm a bit confused - I thought welding galvanised steel was a No-No!?!?  Please explain? 
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: John Rudd on November 25, 2015, 09:15:50 AM
Galvy can be welded...just grind off the coating, use plenty ventilation avoid breathing the fumes...
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: awemawson on November 25, 2015, 10:05:42 AM
It's the fumes that cause problems to the welder - if you get 'galv poisoning' your head starts to spin and you feel dizzy. Drink lots of milk asap.

The zinc will interfere with the integrity of the weld, so don't weld galvanised sheet for use in nuclear pressure vessels  :zap: But for every day run of the mill stuff it's not a major issue.

The galvanising can be removed physically with a grinder etc., or chemically with an acid.
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on November 25, 2015, 11:57:32 AM
Hi there, all,

I'm a bit confused - I thought welding galvanised steel was a No-No!?!?  Please explain?

Hi Pete , I have never had a problem with welding Galvanized sheet steel ,been welding it for years ,  safe as houses , yerh if you're a complete tit and breathe the fumes then you get what you deserve . As with any welding/brazing/soldering  operation the fumes are bad for you . , Over on Idiots forge iron it's a different story , it's instant death if you do .,,,,,,,,,,,,,and the sky will fall in lol .


Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: AdeV on November 25, 2015, 01:12:37 PM
All the metal I've been welding into my Jaaaag is galv, just because I happen to have a "few dozen" square feet of it that I scored a while back. It's hard to tell if the Zinc fumes are affecting me as I was already  :loco: mad before I began the project!  :lol:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on November 25, 2015, 01:16:21 PM
Well I did not want to mention your twitch Ade   :poke: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I think  the fume from burning underseal are worse  :lol:


Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: vtsteam on November 25, 2015, 10:04:17 PM
Breathing in enough of anything including oxygen will kill ya so don't take this in any way as a suggestion to inhale molten zinc in order to get healthy, but on the other hand it's estimated that a couple billion people suffer from zinc deficiency on this planet. And it's particularly common in old fogeys like me. Occasional light exposure doesn't scare me. I minimize it by removing or welding outside, etc. but it isn't lead, or cadmium, or arsenic, and frankly the buzz box welding rods I use are a lot worse.

Unlike the famous cumulative metal poisons, your body cannot store zinc, so you actually need some zinc every day. Best way is in food, of course.

Here, zinc deficiency, read all about it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_deficiency

Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: AdeV on November 26, 2015, 06:17:59 AM
Well I did not want to mention your twitch Ade   :poke: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I think  the fume from burning underseal are worse  :lol:

Hehe (twitch) don't worry about it, happens (twitch) all the time  :zap:

Underseal, ugh, rotten stuff. Welding to it is really hard, I've still got the 1/2" diameter burn mark on my arm where a big gob of white hot welding spatter burned through every layer of clothing & tried to eat its way through to my elbow from the inside. Ouch.
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Pete W. on November 26, 2015, 08:27:06 AM

SNIP!

Unlike the famous cumulative metal poisons, your body cannot store zinc, so you actually need some zinc every day. Best way is in food, of course.

Here, zinc deficiency, read all about it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_deficiency

An uncle of mine (long since gone) had a smallholding that included a deep-litter poultry house.  Townie visitors would ask 'Do you provide them with crushed shell so they have calcium to make the eggshells?'  His standard reply was 'Naah, there's more available calcium in a cabbage leaf than there is in ten buckets full of that stuff!!'  He never was one to suffer fools gladly but I think he could have been a bit more gentle. 
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on January 26, 2016, 03:57:52 PM
Hi Chaps  :wave:


A wee bit of an update , I cleared the corner of the shop for the forge and tried it out for size .

 (http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/P1100824_zpsqxmw6w1a.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/P1100824_zpsqxmw6w1a.jpg.html)

I think I will repurpose the fan from the now scrapped Cupola build to use as an extractor , well at least know I can have a think on which way to do the ducting .


Cheers Rob 
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Joe d on January 26, 2016, 04:35:03 PM
Looking good in place, Rob.  Is the steel chimney you built a few years ago still within reach of this corner of the shop?

JOe
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on January 26, 2016, 04:51:36 PM
Cheers  Joe


Sadly not , and the chimney will soon be gone  :(   looks like plan Z  :lol:


Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: krv3000 on January 26, 2016, 05:09:38 PM
as per rob brill
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Andrew Wildman on February 01, 2016, 04:24:52 PM
looks good...and reminds me to buy a fire extinguisher for the shed.  Job for the weekend.
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Arbalist on February 13, 2016, 01:58:45 PM

An uncle of mine (long since gone) had a smallholding that included a deep-litter poultry house.  Townie visitors would ask 'Do you provide them with crushed shell so they have calcium to make the eggshells?'  His standard reply was 'Naah, there's more available calcium in a cabbage leaf than there is in ten buckets full of that stuff!!'  He never was one to suffer fools gladly but I think he could have been a bit more gentle.

I don't keep hens but it does  make you wonder why they sell Oystershell then doesn't it?

http://www.ukpoultrysupplies.co.uk/products/poultry-grit.html
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: awemawson on February 13, 2016, 02:16:26 PM
Hens need something in their crop to help digest food - it's a mechanical thing !


http://www.tillysnest.com/2012/01/crop-issues-html/
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Arbalist on February 13, 2016, 02:48:16 PM
Not entirely.

https://poultrykeeper.com/keeping-chickens-faq/why-do-chickens-need-grit-oystershell/

"Soluble grit is digested by the hen and contains calcium, most of which is used to form strong egg shells. The majority of an egg-shell is made up of calcium carbonate and a constant supply of oyster shell grit ensures they have sufficient calcium in their bodies."
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 13, 2016, 03:03:54 PM
Maybe you could start a thread about chickens   :wack:


Rob


Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Arbalist on February 13, 2016, 03:49:18 PM
Bentonite cat litter has a multitude of uses doesn't it! I made up some refractory for a small forge using it in the recipe with Portland cement and perlite and it worked well.

Interesting , any chance of a few photos of the forge ?


Rob


(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee286/Arbalist/p2.jpg)

I built it primarily for heat treating blades but never used it in earnest as we moved house and I didn't have space for it. The home made refractory worked well though and you could get up to welding temperature on a few handfuls of charcoal.
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 14, 2016, 09:27:51 AM
 :thumbup: Arbalist , were you planing on doing blade smithing ? 




Meanwhile  I was getting sick of moving gear about the workshop this morning  :bang:  I decided to upcycle (snigger, :loco: )  my  Cupola blower .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Cupola/P1070689_zps53bddd7e.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Cupola/P1070689_zps53bddd7e.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100916_zpsamik0aud.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100916_zpsamik0aud.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100918_zps0shdvdgf.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100918_zps0shdvdgf.jpg.html)

The motor will be used re used sometime in the future , the fan I think will be used on the forge as the extractor and the wee stand became a hammer and tong rack .

(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100921_zpsir7xib6g.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100921_zpsir7xib6g.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100924_zpsehysdmsj.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100924_zpsehysdmsj.jpg.html)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100927_zps10mo3zxe.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100927_zps10mo3zxe.jpg.html)

Cheers Rob
 

Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: John Rudd on February 14, 2016, 11:03:56 AM
Methinks you need another hammer or two...... :lol: :lol:

Have a look here.... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JOB-LOT-OF-9-ASSORTED-HAMMERS-FREE-DELIVERY-lot-2-/161969343168?hash=item25b6200ac0:g:uQ4AAOSwLnlWo9zG
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 14, 2016, 03:41:49 PM
 :lol: :lol: were did find that rubbish/tat  mate   :poke: 








Rob


Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: Arbalist on February 14, 2016, 04:47:43 PM
:thumbup: Arbalist , were you planing on doing bladesmithing?
Cheers Rob
 

I did think about making a couple. Only stock removal on something like 01 though.
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 16, 2016, 03:25:52 PM
  :wave:   So what were you planning on using the forge for ? 



Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: John Rudd on February 16, 2016, 04:07:47 PM
:lol: :lol: were did find that rubbish/tat  mate   :poke: 






Rob

I thought you might appreciate some fine work tools..... :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 16, 2016, 04:48:27 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol: you loon ,  they looked like they were dragged from a swamp .

I buy my German hammers here  :) http://www.mealli.it/store/index.php  , its a real old schools tool shop , lotts of wooden draws and shelves  cramed full it is ,sort of four candles  type of tool shop  especially since my Italian is crap  :lol:  I will see if I can take a few photos whenI am next there .  :ddb:



Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: John Rudd on February 16, 2016, 05:06:49 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: you loon ,  they looked like they were dragged from a swamp .

I buy my German hammers here  :) http://www.mealli.it/store/index.php  , its a real old schools tool shop , lotts of wooden draws and shelves  cramed full it is ,sort of four candles  type of tool shop


Rob


Like this....
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gi_6SaqVQSw
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 16, 2016, 05:12:46 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol: aye just like that  :Doh:
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on February 18, 2016, 02:24:19 PM
Well I grabbed an hour in the shop tonight and added two square pockets to hold punches and the likes . One is 6" deep and the other is 4" deep


(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/RobWilson100/Forge/P1100935_zpsvujfwtym.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/RobWilson100/media/Forge/P1100935_zpsvujfwtym.jpg.html)



Rob
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: nel2lar on July 29, 2016, 06:55:37 PM
Rob
No one can take anything away from you, you are the "MASTER OF METAL" and what a mind to dream.
It is you, fantastic. Very nice
Nelson Collar
Title: Re: Coke Forge Build
Post by: RobWilson on August 16, 2016, 01:04:21 PM
Thanks Nelson ,  :beer:

Hopefully I will be back on with this project soon  :dremel:


Rob