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Gallery, Projects and General => Project Logs => Topic started by: raynerd on April 14, 2010, 04:07:05 AM
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Hi guys, I`m in need of some advice.....
After seeing my mate Steve’s router out of the corner of my eye one visit back during the Christmas period I`ve been frequently going on cnczone to eye these machines up. As is usually the case with the internet, and that is part of its brilliance, there are countless ways to make these and every time I`ve been close to getting started something has put me off. When my brother-in-law started to build one back a few weeks ago that just tipped me over the edge with determination and I had to make a start!!
My plan is to build a fixed gantry machine so the table with move on bearing draw slides (kindly donated by Steve - cheers mate!!) These are heavy duty draw slides and are like nothing I`ve seen before, certainly nothing at B&Q! For the other two axis I`m going to use ground 1/2″ drill rod running over home machined phos. bronze bearings. It certainly sounds good, I just hope it works!
The router will be made almost entirely out of 3/4″ MDF.
MDF Cut:
(http://raynerd.co.uk/wp-content/upLoads/router1.jpg)
Draw Slides:
(http://raynerd.co.uk/wp-content/upLoads/router2.jpg)
Setting up the moving table -
(http://raynerd.co.uk/wp-content/upLoads/router3.jpg)
(http://raynerd.co.uk/wp-content/upLoads/router4.jpg)
(http://raynerd.co.uk/wp-content/upLoads/router5-768x1024.jpg)
(http://raynerd.co.uk/wp-content/upLoads/router6-768x1024.jpg)
Trapizodal lead screw - 12mm with 3mm pitch.
(http://raynerd.co.uk/wp-content/upLoads/router7-768x1024.jpg)
Lead screw running on bearings at either end of the bed supports:
(http://raynerd.co.uk/wp-content/upLoads/router8-768x1024.jpg)
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...and this is where I need some advice if anyone could lend any?
Since the trapizodal lead screw nuts are round, I need some fixing to hold them to the table but as you can see in the picture below I don`t have much room between the bed and table. There are a few solutions I can think of, 1. Lift the bed even further but this will now only give me extra space above, between the nut and moving table but between the bed will still have no extra space. 2. Route a small - 5mm groove into the 3/4" mdf bed to give more space between bed and nut. I know this would weaken the bed but since it is 3/4" and supported in the centre under the table (I could even support it more) I can`t see it being such an issue. My initial plan was to machine some small split blocks that would clamp down on the round nut but my question.
Before I get to work on one of the above methods to give me more room and get on with my machined ally nut clamping blocks, can anyone think of a more simple solution even possibly using the current 4mm above and below the nut, that I could use to lock the nut the under side centre of the table? I just think with it being made of MDF, it seems a little OTT making ally blocks to support the nut... any advice appreciated!
(http://raynerd.co.uk/wp-content/upLoads/router9-768x1024.jpg)
Chris
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Machine a 2mm flat on the nut and solder it to a bit of 6mm brass flat. You can then put a couple of csk holes in the brass flat and screw to the MDF.
BTW if you do find the draw slides sag a bit at the end of their stroke you can add extra balls and cages from another pair of runners, used that method on this (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v156/jasonballamy/Bench/) extending table that I made.
Jason
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Excellent! I did consider machining a flat on the nut but tried coming up with some contraption to clamp the nut the bed - didn`t think of that! Cheers
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The drive nuts on mine are round and made from a low friction composite plastic. They are threaded on one end so I just made some mount brackets from aluminum angle and drilled & tapped them to match the thread on the nuts. It worked great.
Maybe you could turn one end down a bit and cut the threads in a lathe?
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how abot sone m4/m5 taped holes in the ends and a 90deg brasket, then it could be ajusted for height with slots
is that a FT290 on the bench in the first picture, havent seen one for a long time.
Peter
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Getting there - x axis now moves:
(http://raynerd.co.uk/wp-content/upLoads/router10-1024x768.jpg)
(http://raynerd.co.uk/wp-content/upLoads/router11-1024x768.jpg)
X-axis moving with a drill attached to lead screw:
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Shouldn't the countersinks have gone on the other way? :wave:
John s.
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Haha, waiting for someone to pick up on that!
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HS93 - sorry, just seen your question, no it is a 2m FT-480R and it looks to be just thrown carelessly on the bench!!!! :jaw:
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craynerd
How are you progressing with the CNC Router Build? Inquiring minds are curious. :ddb: :ddb:
Cheers :beer:
Don
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anyone know where I can get two 500mm ish slides (full extension) they need to carry a bit of weight.
thanks
peter
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Hi, yea thanks for digging this one up and asking.... it works pretty good on two axis but not built the third yet. I`ve only one stepper motor and driver (currently being used on my CNC divider) and sadly I`ve just not got any spare cash £200 at present for the stepper motors and drivers needed for all three axis. So sadly money as stopped play at present on this one and then I need to get going on my clock again which is currently where my attention is lying. It will get finished ..... just need some money for stepper drivers or find some second hand ones. I`ve not been 100% commited to any projects since October last year as I`ve had another massive job to do on my house that I`ve been busy with. I`ll post pictures soon but not until it is all passed and signed off....all will be revealed soon and it will become clearer where all my time has gone over the last 9 months! Hopefully that`ll be done by September and I can get back on to finishing, my clock, CNC router, Toylander, LTD Stirling, Pen.......... :proj: :proj: :proj:
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anyone know where I can get two 500mm ish slides (full extension) they need to carry a bit of weight.
thanks
peter
Will these do ? http://www.homebase.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=20001&partNumber=428496&Trail=searchtext%3EDRAWER+SLIDE (http://www.homebase.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=20001&partNumber=428496&Trail=searchtext%3EDRAWER+SLIDE)
I'm going to order some to make some draws under my lathe bench
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These are the ones I used although didn`t buy them, someone off here kindly donated them :headbang:
Liberty Ball Bearing Full Extension Drawer Slide : http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detail&fh_secondid=9281452&fh_view_size=10&fh_start_index=10&fh_location=%2f%2fcatalog01%2fen_GB&fh_search=ball+bearing&fh_eds=%c3%9f&fh_refview=search&ts=1279655253382&isSearch=true
Heavy duty, very sturdy and absolutely top notch.
Chris
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anyone know where I can get two 500mm ish slides (full extension) they need to carry a bit of weight.
thanks
peter
Will these do ? http://www.homebase.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=20001&partNumber=428496&Trail=searchtext%3EDRAWER+SLIDE (http://www.homebase.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=20001&partNumber=428496&Trail=searchtext%3EDRAWER+SLIDE)
I'm going to order some to make some draws under my lathe bench
Thank you for that But I have just got some from a company called SDS (London) they will take 120KG so will cary the weight I need
Peter