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The Breakroom => The Water Cooler => Topic started by: Joules on September 22, 2016, 03:25:56 PM
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Hi guys, I just recently took on a shy young lad (late teens) to mentor in engineering. He's already at college for electrical and mechanical engineering. His Mum asked my other half if I would like to take him under my wing so to speak. The lad has been trying to find part time work but so far no success, I know a few of you have some success at the car boot sales for odd hand tools and the like. It would be nice to get him kitted out with some basic stuff, micrometer, thread gauges, steel ruler scriber etc. Stuff you might already have a duplicate of, or come across on your travels. Be much obliged for any help, and where I can I will cover cost of P&P for the lad. Keep him in mind, he wants to build a model jet engine :med: once he learns some hands on metal working skills. Who knows, he might even get to do some 3D printing.
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I will see what I can dig up Joules :thumbup:
Rob
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Thanks Rob
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Hi there, Joules,
It sounds like your protegé would be a good candidate for Keith Fenner's tool box giveaway.
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I have a newish Eclipse spring loaded centre pop I will donate.
Could you pm me your address and I'll do the rest..
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If you pm me your adderss and anything inparticular you are looking for I will see what I have .Mike
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Hi Joules,
I'll see what I have. Can he work in inches or is he going to be strictly metric?
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Hi Joules,
I'll see what I have. Can he work in inches or is he going to be strictly metric?
He will be brought up on a mixture of metric and imperial. Hopefully he won't turn his nose up at old iron later on and be happy finishing a metric part with a 1 thou cut.
I have metric and imperial mic's here for teaching him.
Pete W
I just had to look up Keith Fenners tool box giveaway. If he got what they show last year he would be better equipped than I am now :bugeye:
Thinking about it some tool making projects would be good for him and me. I could use a small interchangeable soft face hammer, finger plate etc. Might as well make two, together as make one alone.
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Joules
I associate my apprenticeship with the warmest of memories gathering tooling for my inventory was hard to say the least, it’s a very kind thing you are doing and I certainly would like to contribute, PM me the address and I shall donate all I can spare.
Anthony.
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Joules
I associate my apprenticeship with the warmest of memories gathering tooling for my inventory was hard to say the least, it’s a very kind thing you are doing and I certainly would like to contribute, PM me the address and I shall donate all I can spare.
Anthony.
Anthony, I have had some fantastic mentors in my years, they have been both generous in time, equipment and materials. Many of them are no longer with us, I can think of no better way to honour their memory than to pay forward what I recieved.
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I suppose a list of tools and bits so far is in order.
Auto centre punch
Digital caliper
Engineers pocket data book
De burring tool
Multimeter (on it's way, I had forgotten his electrical part)
my old Roland MDX-3 and Pix 3 scanner, they are a bit oddball, but he can make things in wax and balsa as soon as we get him started with CAD here.
Large wooden tool chest.
Safety glasses
Some other bits on the way, but I don't know what they are.
Lads, I'm quite humbled by the generosity I am receiving. Please accept my thanks to you all.
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Joules,
(A) I am "across the pond." And, (B) I "support" quite a few "newbies" out of my own "collection." [Excuses, excuses, excuses!]
One of the things that I do (having started with my daughters and their boyfriends) is run 2-3 "kids"/decade through the "old exercises" such as: making a 1.000 inch cube with hacksaw, file, square, and micrometer (usually out of scrap HRS bits); filing a piece of CRS round bar into a .750 hex with file, protractor, and micrometer; making the mating "slip fit" .750 hex hole in a piece of HRS plate; and the like. Such "old exercises" certainly develop not only hand-eye coordination, but an appreciation for "modern tools" that is often "missing" in today's trades.
I kid you not, I teach about a dozen "machinists" about Tooling Balls pretty much every year. [That was something I learned about month 6 of my apprenticeship.]
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Thanks Lew, I can only lead by example and filing a cube is not something I can do these days or times past :palm: I am pretty much self taught as my apprenticeship was in electrical engineering. The metal and machine side grew out of hobby so I hope to make things together. In fact files are what I am lacking here, even for myself a very modest collection of modern examples :(
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One 30 Kg box of files will be winging it's way in a couple of weeks. You can fight over who's having what.
Wondered who I could palm these off onto :scratch:
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Oh, guess who will be making a filed cube then..... Cheers John
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Jules I have dug out the following for your lad:
Small height gauge
Metric micrometer
Metric vernier
Combination square set
Plus a couple of older micrometers.
It was all gathering dust so happy to let it go to a good cause. It'll be in the post tomorrow.
Pete.
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Few bits and pieces will be in the post tomorrow
assorted drills
Metric taps
and a few other usefull bits
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Thanks guys, very much appreciated. I have a growing list of small projects for him and me :dremel:
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Its good to see the lads chipping in :mmr:
Rob
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OK fella's, meet Joe.
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y253/joulesbee/The%20Lad/IMG_0149_zps5t1oe5e3.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/joulesbee/media/The%20Lad/IMG_0149_zps5t1oe5e3.jpg.html)
He's starting with a virtual blank slate, so I can teach all my bad habits :thumbup:
Spiffy sent us a really great old Starrett caliper it's missing the friction pad for the fine adjuster.
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y253/joulesbee/The%20Lad/IMG_0152_zpsynxkkq3m.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/joulesbee/media/The%20Lad/IMG_0152_zpsynxkkq3m.jpg.html)
Fortunately we have the pad from the moving caliper to model from. In this case its going to be a brass replacement rather than steel.
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y253/joulesbee/The%20Lad/IMG_0151_zpspbfvaizt.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/joulesbee/media/The%20Lad/IMG_0151_zpspbfvaizt.jpg.html)
Today is learning to use a junior hacksaw with some degree of precision and filing using needle files and larger to shape the brass, as well as basic measuring and dimensioning your scribblings.
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y253/joulesbee/The%20Lad/IMG_0150_zpsfsyfi4jc.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/joulesbee/media/The%20Lad/IMG_0150_zpsfsyfi4jc.jpg.html)
Just had jacket potatoes from the workshop stove, so back to work for us.
Big thanks guys for all the support so far in tools and bits, I think he is enjoying himself.
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It was Joe's afternoon today, he had his caliper brake to finish off.
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y253/joulesbee/The%20Lad/IMG_0158_zpsquvjmvmp.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/joulesbee/media/The%20Lad/IMG_0158_zpsquvjmvmp.jpg.html)
Final bit of filing and saw off the excess brass.
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y253/joulesbee/The%20Lad/IMG_0157_zps9xzl2jgk.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/joulesbee/media/The%20Lad/IMG_0157_zps9xzl2jgk.jpg.html)
The fit is just about spot on, little dab of oil and turn the components round and it all runs smoothly.
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y253/joulesbee/The%20Lad/IMG_0156_zpsffwrfsm7.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/joulesbee/media/The%20Lad/IMG_0156_zpsffwrfsm7.jpg.html)
I think Joe is pretty happy with his first bit of metal working and doing a fix on a measuring tool, from small beginnings.....
He spent the first couple of hours this afternoon learning to use the shaper and driving that after about 30 mins tuition. Good afternoon had by all.
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a job well dun
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Huh, just spotted that Smiffy got auto corrected to Spiffy :palm: Bloody computers...
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Give him a couple of years and and you'll find your apprentice is your master. If they have interest in a subject there comes a point soon into the learning process where they generally gain real confidence and take command of the disciplines involved.
Learning is a wonderful process to behold,good on you for providing the guidance.....OZ
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Nice one :thumbup:
Rob
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Good on you gents! Nice seeing the old ways passed on to the next generation! I wish I had had a mentor in my formative years. I might have turned out just a little better than I did.
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Hi Joseph here. Just saying to thank all who has helped out, I really appreciate it :) It's great to learn all this and I appreciate all the help from everyone by sending things and everything else :) Cheers!