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Title: Installing a VFD
Post by: eskoilola on January 01, 2018, 05:22:59 AM
This is a walkthrough to install a VFD aka Inverter.

A chinese VFD is easy to install and operates quite reliably provided that You take some precautions, install it carefully and do not try to save money in wrong places. I write this posting in hopes it casts light on the very confusing material available in the internet. Nine out of ten articles are only telling how bad the chinese VFD's are - it is really rare to find out an article describing what to do to make it work. This posting is based on my own experience which was not that bad. The VFD this posting is talking about is a chinese Huanyang HY03D023B.

Step #1: Evaluate Your motor

(http://kirppuja.fi/Public/madmodder/IMG_4928_small.jpg) (http://kirppuja.fi/Public/madmodder/IMG_4928.jpg)

Power inverters are capable to fry Your motor in milliseconds. It is very important to make it sure that the motor can withstand the stresses the VFD is putting on it. In addition to certain electrical properties there are motor types that are not suitable to be used with a frequency converter. The following is a list of some things You should look into:



Step #2: Select the VFD

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The internet is full of horror stories about chinese VFD's. The usual case is a fried VFD or a VFD that is not performing up to the specifications. This is mostly because of the misunderstanding of the specification. Chinese seem to talk about limiting values, not the values for normal use. Therefore:


Step #3: Connect the dots

There are four connections needed for the VFD installation:


Step #4: Mount the VFD

I decided to mount the VFD in such a way that it is easy to replace the unit if it fails. Although I am quite confident with this VFD I am still a little bit suspicious. Now, if it fails it is very easy to replace it. The VFD can get warm. It should NOT get hot. It needs free air flow around it. The VFD can be put inside a cabinet but then care must be taken to ensure that there is enough room around it. As all electronic equipment, the VFD is allergic to dust. This is because the dust creates an excellent heat insulation blanket on top of heat sinks causing them to heat up. In a shop environment it is probably impossible to get rid of the dust. This was another reason for my "open air" installation. Now it is very easy to give this unit a gentle blow from the air gun annually.


Step #5: Configure the VFD

Here are the preliminary values for configuration parameters for my application. These may be different depending on the motor power and button setup.

ParameterValueRemarks
PD01308Reset parameters to factory defaults. Do this first.
PD0011Uses external terminal
PD0021Uses analog voltage for speed control
PD00350.00Main frequency.
PD00450.00Base frequency.
PD005100.00Maximum operating frequency.
PD0062.50Intermediate frequency. Used for torque compensation.
PD0070.50Minimum frequency. Used for torque compensation.
PD008220Maximum voltage. This is suitable for delta connected motor.
PD00924.00Intermediate voltage. Maximum torque boost at low RPM.
PD0108.00Minimum voltage. Maximum torque boost at low RPM.
PD01110.00Minimum operating frequency.
PD0142.50Acceleration time.
PD0152.50Deceleration time.
PD072100.00Maximum frequency the potentiometer can set.
PD07310.00Minimum frequency the potentiometer can set.
PD04402(FOR) terminal is forward. Exchange values with PD045 if motor runs the wrong way.
PD004503(REV) terminal is reverse. Exchange values with PD044 if motor runs the wrong way.
PD04604(RST) terminal is stop. Note that this terminal works the other way around. Contact is opened to stop.
PD04714(SPH) terminal is reset. Used to recover a tripped VFD.
PD04913(SPL) terminal is emergency stop. Used to keep the motor from starting if spindle cover is open.

Last some pictures. Click on them to see a larger version.

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Title: Re: Installing a VFD
Post by: Pete. on January 01, 2018, 08:48:16 AM
It's a good write-up but I have never seen a centrifugal switch on a 3 phase motor (or a capacitor for that matter, unless it was fitted deliberately to run it off single phase). There's not much point warning about something that you are never going to come across.

Other than that - good job.
Title: Re: Installing a VFD
Post by: John Rudd on January 01, 2018, 09:54:06 AM
Ditto, a decent write up.....however, the motor needs to be connected in Delta if it is to work with a 220-240 v input vfd.....most modern motors suited to vfd use are dual voltage, the windings can be connected in Star for true 3 phase or in Delta for a 0-240 v 3 phase supply from a vfd....
It may be necessary to locate the Star point on a 3 ph motor and bring out leads connecting to the phase winding ends to do so......
Title: Re: Installing a VFD
Post by: vintageandclassicrepairs on January 01, 2018, 03:37:38 PM
Hi All
I would not mount the VFD near the workings of the lathe as in the photos,
metal chips and swarf flying around can easily enter the  ventilated unit in the position shown
 :zap: :zap: :zap:
+1 on the comments on single vs 3 phase motors  :doh:

John
Title: Re: Installing a VFD
Post by: eskoilola on January 01, 2018, 05:30:56 PM
Thanks for everyone who bothered to read and comment the walkthroungh. Did some corrections:

Title: Re: Installing a VFD
Post by: PekkaNF on January 02, 2018, 02:49:54 AM
Very good! I had no problem with the original test.

Now the interesting part: How would you connect chuck guards or other interlocking guard? How about E-stop.

I know what EU regulation says about real production machines, but it get's complicated. Principle would be that E-stop tells VFD to brake and a safety timer will turn out the VFD feed after a propriate delay time from the E-stop signal. In real life it gets a bit more complicated.

Best compromise I now is to put interlocking guards in series with enable/inhibit or stop signal (if it is active LOW) of the VFD.

E-stop I would like to kill all...I.E. cut voltage off from the spindle VFD, but it is not the fastest way to stop the spindle. This needs a little consideration and probably varies a lot depending of the application. Normal E-stop buttons don't handle full current of the bigger equipment, they need to be connected to a contactor.

Pekka
Title: Re: Installing a VFD
Post by: mexican jon on January 02, 2018, 03:18:16 AM
Guard interlock is relatively easy as this can be tied into the stop or drive enable circuit, setting the deceleration time to suit  :thumbup: E-stops are an interesting thing  :scratch: In reality an E-stop shouldn't take into consideration the effect it may have on the machine (provided it doesn't make the machine dangerous) by that I mean when an E-stop is used in it's correct function it is to safe guard people and therefore doesn't worry about any damage or detrimental effect on the machine. As per their name Emergency Stop compared to a controlled stop which is the normal.
Title: Re: Installing a VFD
Post by: Pete. on January 02, 2018, 07:05:45 AM
I wire the estop in series with the door/guard interlocks. Also in line with the stop button. That way if you hit stop, estop or open a cover the spindle is braked to a stop.

Title: Re: Installing a VFD
Post by: awemawson on January 02, 2018, 08:11:37 AM
ESTOP should drop power to the servos / steppers & motors so you are not relying on electronics to stop things. On my CNC Plasma table for instance there are two poles on the ESTOP switch. One tells the electronics to stop everything, but the other drops out a relay in series with the stepper power supply
Title: Re: Installing a VFD
Post by: mexican jon on January 02, 2018, 03:56:32 PM
Here's an Emergency stop system in its true meaning.


Title: Re: Installing a VFD
Post by: PK on January 02, 2018, 04:27:57 PM
ESTOP should drop power to the servos / steppers & motors so you are not relying on electronics to stop things. On my CNC Plasma table for instance there are two poles on the ESTOP switch. One tells the electronics to stop everything, but the other drops out a relay in series with the stepper power supply
Agree. On small machines, just turning the power off is probably OK.  But on something with some moving mass (like a spindle, or servo driven mill table) you generally get a faster stop by telling the drives to put the brakes on (and then turning the power off).   The decelerating spindle/axis etc.. will generate enough power to keep the drive running while it dumps energy into it's braking resistor or injects DC to trigger eddy current braking.