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CNC / Re: It's new to me
« Last post by ddmckee54 on Today at 01:31:07 AM »
I got the brackets cut to length and the inside corner radius removed. I found out that my method for bolting the frame to the base may NOT have been such a great idea. Not modeling the bed initially was not a wise move, it gave me the false notion that I had plenty of room to play with. I forgot that the bed overhangs the main frame. Those mounting bolts mean I either need to raise the bed 6-8mm to clear them, or I need to swap those bolts with something else, neither of which I planned on doing. Raising the bed would probably be the simplest, but that means my 65mm clearance over the bed drops down to more like 55mm - at least for now anyway.

Or.... Maybe I just notch the ends of the bed extrusion, that might be the simplest/easiest thing to do. I'll have to check that out, we're probably talking about removing a 10x10mm notch from the bottom of both ends of the bed extrusion. I'm not sure, but I think that extrusion is at least 15mm thick, might be 20mm or more. And how often do you need to put a tee-nut in the last 10mm of the slot? I REALLY need to get the bed modelled, so I can see it before I do any slicing and dicing.
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CNC / Re: It's new to me
« Last post by ddmckee54 on Today at 12:24:39 AM »
Tufnol would be similar, but appears to be a UK product.  Almost 50 years ago I worked at https://www.norplex-micarta.com/ in Postville.  At that time the parent company was in Lacrosse, WI, and Postville was definitely NOT the headquarters - let alone global headquarters.  Some of the stuff in the video on the website looks VERY familiar.  At the time I worked there thermoset sheets were the only product, but there were many flavors of those.  May have to do a Google Earth and see what the plant looks like now.
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CNC / Re: It's new to me
« Last post by vtsteam on March 04, 2026, 08:59:31 PM »
Wow, exciting stuff re. that press incident!  :coffee:
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CNC / Re: It's new to me
« Last post by Muzzerboy on March 04, 2026, 07:22:21 AM »
Presumably this is Tufnol, usually paper or cloth with phenolic resin. I used them for high voltage insulators and mounting plates for electrical assemblies. Also used for gears. Easy to machine but has a characteristic slightly acrid smell..

I have some 12mm sheet (plate?) and 50mm rod in the workshop somewhere....
https://tufnol.com/materials-and-products/
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CNC / Re: It's new to me
« Last post by ddmckee54 on March 03, 2026, 07:14:52 PM »
My guess would be that it was probably used as an insulator, the stuff machines fairly easily.  I poked the access holes and the counter-bores for the mounting bolts using nothing more complicated than a Forstner bit in the drill press.

The thickest slab I ever saw them press was 11" with a canvas core.  At that thickness things can get a little dicey, so they are very careful about how they do it.  I also saw them try pressing a slab about 8" thick only to have it spit out the side and bind up the press.  The press itself was a big hydraulic cylinder in a pit, we wound up changing the seals after this incident and I'm thinking the ram was 36-42" in diameter.  The 4 studs connecting the cylinder to the top-hat were 8-10" across.  The only thing that dropped the press ram and the heating platens was gravity.  When the laminate shifted it became wedge shaped, that cocked the ram in the seals - so it wouldn't drop.  They attacked that slab with hand chisels, air chisels, sawzalls, I think they even used a chainsaw on it.  That particular type of laminate was designed to laugh at most shock loads - it's used for gears that need to stand up to repeated high shock loads.  They finally got enough clearance between the slab and the studs to wrap a cable around the slab.  Then some brave soul lunatic volunteered to hook a fork lift to the cable and yank the slab out of the press. (I knew him, lunatic fits.)  From the tire marks we had to clean off the floor, it did not give up easily.  Between getting the slab out of the press, and waiting for the new seals, that press was down for the better part of a month.
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CNC / Re: It's new to me
« Last post by vtsteam on March 03, 2026, 01:01:45 PM »
Wow, that's a pretty impressive piece of phenolic! I remember it used to be used in low cost PC boards, but not in 30mm thickness! What were those boards used for?
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CNC / Re: It's new to me
« Last post by ddmckee54 on March 03, 2026, 11:20:00 AM »
vtsteam:

The base is a 470x550x30mm piece of laminated phenolic plastic, with a kraft paper core and what, if I'm remembering correctly, were known as canary covers.  On my bathroom scales that chunk weighs in at about 25 lbs.  In the mid to late 70's I was working in a plant that produced them, in the maintenance department.  Every once in a while a sheet would get rejected, this one has about a 0.010-0.015" high spot about 200mm from the LH side, I suspect that was one the reasons for it's rejection.  I'd keep my eyes open for any rejects that I thought might be usable in the future.  Since they were bound for the landfill anyway, I'd get permission from the production supervisor to take them. 

The only ones I wouldn't take were the epoxy/fiberglass sheets, those you can't cut with carbide blades.  You have to use a diamond saw on them and basically grind through them.  At that time, carbide saw blades for home use were EXPENSIVE, a diamond blade was the stuff of dreams.  We had one guy in maintenance whose sole job was to sharpen and repair the carbide saw blades.
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CNC / Re: It's new to me
« Last post by vtsteam on March 03, 2026, 09:37:44 AM »
Is the base from a table leaf? Just guessing!

I'm kinda interested in the MKS DLC32 that you mentioned earlier. I'm pretty unaware of the current CNC circuitboard stuff going on in the maker world other than a failed attempt I made at implementing a working GRBL Arduino system for my older CNC router/mill.

Luckily in that case I was able to get an old laptop working with LinuxCNC again which does work fine with the mill via ancient parallel cable drive. So I dropped GRBL. But I am always curious about what's going on in low cost CNC driver options in case I want to make a custom specialized tool some day, neither lathe nor mill.

I think I understand how that one is programmed, separately from the mill, and then the program is loaded and run either by thumbdrive or wifi etc. I do have a tiny extremely low end 3D printer that accepts a thumbdrive program and then runs it, so I get the concept.
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CNC / Re: It's new to me
« Last post by ddmckee54 on March 02, 2026, 11:45:07 PM »
Picture time...


This is what things look like now, doesn't look a whole lot different than this one does it?


If you answered no to that question you'd be absolutely right.  But there is one MAJOR difference, the frame is now bolted to the base and living in its' new, and permanent, home.

Next step?  Get the bed mounting brackets designed/fabricated, and get the bed mounted to the X axis bearing blocks.  If you look closely at the base below the second mounting bolt for the X axis linear rail on the far side you'll see the access hole for greasing the X axis bearing blocks. (There's a similar access hole on the near side that's hidden in the view.)  Once the bed is mounted I can get to work on the X axis lead-nut mount.  I really need to find mt ToDo list and get it updated, this should check off at least a couple more items.
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The Water Cooler / Re: usb stick
« Last post by vtsteam on March 02, 2026, 09:28:29 PM »
If you still run Windows, you can use a program called USB-Image-Tool to write an EasyOS image to a USB thumbdrive. Or any other disk image you might want by preference. Or it might be able to simply reformat the disk -- I don't know for sure, haven't tried it, because I don't run Windows.

USB-Image-Tool is available here:

Information:

https://www.alexpage.de/usb-image-tool/

Download:

https://www.alexpage.de/usb-image-tool/download/
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